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Gobe
Profile Joined November 2010
210 Posts
October 08 2011 08:48 GMT
#1561
On October 08 2011 17:47 Surriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 17:45 Gobe wrote:
Oh shit....I just realized every Zerg I play for weeks will nydus the hell out of me. Like I 3 gate expand, boom nydus. Lol love people forcing strategies typically but playing slowed down wack-a-mole could prove to be incredibly fucking annoying.


You have to realize this strategy works due to the empty space in the 3rd, which completely bypass the wallin. In normal situation, the nydus would be in the main base, in which case you should be able to scout it immediately and pull probes to kill it. If he nydus outside the main he will have to go through the wall and that gives you time to prepare against it.


I mentioned it would be forcing the strategy...it happens a lot.
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
October 08 2011 08:48 GMT
#1562
On October 08 2011 17:44 below66 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 17:41 dmnum wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:41 Roe wrote:
now that's how zerg's supposed to be played

cheesing? not really lol


lol @ guy guys still thinking cheese exist. In Korea cheese is a normal part of the game, it's called being aggressive.


You can go retard, don't go full retard, never go full retard

User was warned for this post
Toast and coffe
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
October 08 2011 08:49 GMT
#1563
On October 08 2011 17:47 Gobe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 17:45 0ne wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:44 below66 wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:41 dmnum wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:41 Roe wrote:
now that's how zerg's supposed to be played

cheesing? not really lol


lol @ guy guys still thinking cheese exist. In Korea cheese is a normal part of the game, it's called being aggressive.

This post doesn't make any sense lol


I think it does. The presence of cheese is extremely important to the forming of the meta game. Plus cheese seems to be one of the more creative forms of strategies.


Thank you.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16129 Posts
October 08 2011 08:50 GMT
#1564
On October 08 2011 17:48 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 17:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:45 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:43 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Having Keen means no Tails nor Guinea Pig since DRG will no doubt be the last MVP standing.

which makes playing bumblebee even more puzzling


Bumblebee is on Prime.


hahah whoops


No problem. He's relatively unknown so he's an easy player to mix up.

MVP's Lineup has been relatively typical they opened with Vampire who I'm not familiar with, but opening with one of your less well known players makes total sense to me.

But after that it was Noblesse then Genius and now Keen with DRG finishing. Basically all of their Code S or former Code S players.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 08 2011 08:50 GMT
#1565
So
BBBB > Keen
BBBB < DRG
MKP ??? DRG
DO IT GSTL
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 08 2011 08:50 GMT
#1566
Always nice to see the studio full even tho its not that big
Cackle™
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 08 2011 08:51 GMT
#1567
Ha, Fortress for Keen, good choice.
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
October 08 2011 08:51 GMT
#1568
Was Tasteless talking about Haunting Ground?
Phats
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia534 Posts
October 08 2011 08:51 GMT
#1569
On October 08 2011 17:47 Sandro wrote:
I hope Keen can take BB down, cause DRG doesnt seem to have a very good ZvZ.


I'd have to disagree and say probably only Nestea/Losira have better ZvZ than DRG, I expected Tails --> DRG though for the 2 finishers. Keen has the best ceremonies ever though and is a cutey! He does however choke fairly often.

Cmon DRG!!!!!!!!!!
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 08 2011 08:51 GMT
#1570
Not a balance whine, but the Protoss wins are telling of how P is doing in Korea. :D
Hey! How you doin'?
Surriel
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom198 Posts
October 08 2011 08:51 GMT
#1571
On October 08 2011 17:48 Gobe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 17:47 Surriel wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:45 Gobe wrote:
Oh shit....I just realized every Zerg I play for weeks will nydus the hell out of me. Like I 3 gate expand, boom nydus. Lol love people forcing strategies typically but playing slowed down wack-a-mole could prove to be incredibly fucking annoying.


You have to realize this strategy works due to the empty space in the 3rd, which completely bypass the wallin. In normal situation, the nydus would be in the main base, in which case you should be able to scout it immediately and pull probes to kill it. If he nydus outside the main he will have to go through the wall and that gives you time to prepare against it.


I mentioned it would be forcing the strategy...it happens a lot.


I suppose its true, monkeys see monkeys do. Then again free wins for you!
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
October 08 2011 08:51 GMT
#1572
On October 08 2011 17:48 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 17:47 Gobe wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:45 0ne wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:44 below66 wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:41 dmnum wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:41 Roe wrote:
now that's how zerg's supposed to be played

cheesing? not really lol


lol @ guy guys still thinking cheese exist. In Korea cheese is a normal part of the game, it's called being aggressive.

This post doesn't make any sense lol


I think it does. The presence of cheese is extremely important to the forming of the meta game. Plus cheese seems to be one of the more creative forms of strategies.

cheese=\= agressive play
if somehow genius scouted that nydus he would've won right there, but since he didn't, he lost


if he scouted it, he would only have probes to kill the nydus, and the distance alone, he wouldn't of killed it in time.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16129 Posts
October 08 2011 08:51 GMT
#1573
Oh man, these two look so nervous. It's actually making me anxious.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
October 08 2011 08:51 GMT
#1574
On October 08 2011 17:50 MrCon wrote:
So
BBBB > Keen
BBBB < DRG
MKP ??? DRG
DO IT GSTL


If this happens, I will be so ecstatic.
CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
October 08 2011 08:51 GMT
#1575
On October 08 2011 17:47 Gobe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 17:45 0ne wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:44 below66 wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:41 dmnum wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:41 Roe wrote:
now that's how zerg's supposed to be played

cheesing? not really lol


lol @ guy guys still thinking cheese exist. In Korea cheese is a normal part of the game, it's called being aggressive.

This post doesn't make any sense lol


I think it does. The presence of cheese is extremely important to the forming of the meta game. Plus cheese seems to be one of the more creative forms of strategies.

Cheese is typically defined as "builds that rely (completely) on surprise to be effective". Bunker rushes, as annoying as they are, aren't cheese. 1-1-1 all-ins aren't cheese, even if you pull every single SCV - because they rely on how fucking crazy good the aggression is, not the surprise. 2 base fast lair nydus is cheese, because if they see it coming and pull probes, it's completely neutralized. On the other hand, you can still use the nydus for things like expansion management if the nydus assault fails, so it's cheese without being all-in.

Sorry, but "cheese" and "all-in" both get thrown around a lot without a great deal of accuracy.
zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
October 08 2011 08:52 GMT
#1576
Set 7: Xel'Naga Fortress

BBoongBBoongPrime 3 o'clock
MvPKeeN 7 o'clock
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 08:54:01
October 08 2011 08:52 GMT
#1577
On October 08 2011 17:51 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 17:48 dmnum wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:47 Gobe wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:45 0ne wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:44 below66 wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:41 dmnum wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:41 Roe wrote:
now that's how zerg's supposed to be played

cheesing? not really lol


lol @ guy guys still thinking cheese exist. In Korea cheese is a normal part of the game, it's called being aggressive.

This post doesn't make any sense lol


I think it does. The presence of cheese is extremely important to the forming of the meta game. Plus cheese seems to be one of the more creative forms of strategies.

cheese=\= agressive play
if somehow genius scouted that nydus he would've won right there, but since he didn't, he lost


if he scouted it, he would only have probes to kill the nydus, and the distance alone, he wouldn't of killed it in time.

If he scouted it, he would've spread units, made pylons to have vision of the base and I can guarantee you that genius would've easily held it unless he derped pretty hard. Seriously, I'm not saying it wasn't legit play, but it WAS a cheese, accept it.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 08 2011 08:52 GMT
#1578
On October 08 2011 17:51 Zdrastochye wrote:
Not a balance whine, but the Protoss wins are telling of how P is doing in Korea. :D


So.. Balanced. GSTL stats are at 50% ^______________^
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
October 08 2011 08:52 GMT
#1579
Haven't seen a zerg play on this map in awhile, curious to see how he approaches it.
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
October 08 2011 08:53 GMT
#1580
On October 08 2011 17:52 zeOllie wrote:
Set 7: Xel'Naga Fortress

BBoongBBoongPrime 3 o'clock
MvPKeeN 7 o'clock


2:20

12 Rax 13 Gas for Keen
15 Hatch for BBoong
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
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