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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 23 2011 15:42 GMT
#4861
Really smart creep denial there, never seen that one before
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 23 2011 15:42 GMT
#4862
Has MaNa not scouted the gold?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 23 2011 15:42 GMT
#4863
That warp prism micro is sick !
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
October 23 2011 15:42 GMT
#4864
Wow, such a good play with that warp prism, too bad that he is madly behind in econ.
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
October 23 2011 15:42 GMT
#4865
wow mana....
We talkin about PRACTICE
Eisenheim
Profile Joined May 2011
France229 Posts
October 23 2011 15:42 GMT
#4866
wtf warp prism O_o Nice Micro !
ToD, DeMusliM, White-ra, Stephano, MVP !
MGN
Profile Joined June 2011
France383 Posts
October 23 2011 15:43 GMT
#4867
don't think stephano is that bad actually
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
October 23 2011 15:43 GMT
#4868
Lose your lair? Expand to 3 more bases.
I'll call Nada.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 23 2011 15:43 GMT
#4869
On October 24 2011 00:42 ceaRshaf wrote:
I also don't like how zerg in SC2 has a 40 supply advantage and can max at 14:00.

For instance in Broodwar zerg had to have +20 pop vs toss and toss had to have +20 pop vs terran.


The zerg supply advantage is pretty much just because Roaches are supply-inefficient, which is the only thing stopping them from 1aing everything unstoppably.

That zealot trap on the queen was crazy. Awesome play.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 23 2011 15:43 GMT
#4870
Stephano's multitasking kind of falling apart here. He'll probably still win but he is missing injects and was floating like 2.8k
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 23 2011 15:43 GMT
#4871
stephano will still win
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
October 23 2011 15:44 GMT
#4872
Stephano is really struggling to deal with this, he hasn't even restarted his creep spread. He normally has such amazing creep.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
October 23 2011 15:44 GMT
#4873
On October 24 2011 00:43 syllogism wrote:
Stephano's multitasking kind of falling apart here. He'll probably still win but he is missing injects and was floating like 2.8k

That was intentional. He had to wait for Spire and other tech buildings to go up. He didnt want to max out on roaches.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 23 2011 15:44 GMT
#4874
gg forcefields!
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 23 2011 15:44 GMT
#4875
On October 24 2011 00:44 trinxified wrote:
gg forcefields!

lol
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 23 2011 15:45 GMT
#4876
this zerg is something else
Professional tech investor, part time DotA scrub | Follow @AllMeasures on Twitter
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
October 23 2011 15:45 GMT
#4877
When Zergs don't miss injects its really scary
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
October 23 2011 15:45 GMT
#4878
MaNa is being wrecked
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 23 2011 15:45 GMT
#4879
Really nice warp prism play by MaNa, but he really needed to take a third.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
October 23 2011 15:45 GMT
#4880
On October 24 2011 00:36 rasnj wrote:
What is wrong with a standard macro game? It was standard, but very well executed. Games do not need to contain innovative or flashy stuff to be "finals-worthy".


What I'm getting at was that it WASN'T particularly well-executed. Sure, it was decent, but it wasn't fantastic, even for a standard game. Stephano repeatedly forgot upgrades and floated tons of money, he went for Roach/Hydra/Corruptor without a Hive for absolutely ages when Mana was turtling (read: couldn't pressure) and I don't know why the casters kept saying it could go either way - once I saw the Infestors/Broodlords and how delayed the Stargates were it looked obvious the Stephano would win.

Mana had pretty decent positioning and (obviously) very good Forcefields, but other than that his decision-making was definitely questionable (especially on expanding, unit composition and when to attack/withdraw). Mana still plays PvZ like it was played 5 months ago, turtling to get a deathball then attacking - which is fine if you can pull it off by doing it impeccably, but he didn't in this game.

In no way am I saying that I could do better than either player, but I certainly EXPECTED better from them. Nothing looked brilliant to me, especially after watching MLG/IPL, or even the previous matches from both players.
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