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Rowa
Belgium962 Posts
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:33 enemy2010 wrote: I dont think Stephano has good unit control/micro skills.... He pretty much always goes "1a" with his army, and therefore wins by macroing his opp out. Or am I wrong?  you very wrong Stephano got exstrem good unit control is his macro sometimes becuase he is a low econ zerg that can be his downfall | ||
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:34 Oldfool wrote: Great game one! Pity it was streamed on own3d.tv, which is actually the most horrible viewing experience I've had with streams - with constant freezes and dropouts. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhouu5_live-netgtv-eswc_videogames This is the french casted stream with footage from the main stage, with crowd reactions and shots. Doesn't lag for me. | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:33 enemy2010 wrote: I dont think Stephano has good unit control/micro skills.... He pretty much always goes "1a" with his army, and therefore wins by macroing his opp out. Or am I wrong? Yeah you're wrong. Stephano has shown expert positioning in the past, for example big flanking maneuvers or burror roach movement. | ||
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enemy2010
Germany1972 Posts
Maybe i should look closer to Stephanos play now :D | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:08 CutthroatCollapse wrote: just curious: do native speakers of English (those among you) prefer Rotterdam's or Khaldor's accent? I feel like khaldor speaks more clearly but I still like RotterdaM's accent more. I may be heavily biased and not know it, I've been a big fan of rotti for a longggg time. | ||
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Elean
689 Posts
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:34 SeaSwift wrote: Way to completely miss what I was saying. I'm not saying Mana and Stephano are bad - Mana has an amazing PvT, his PvP vs MC was world-class, and Stephano swept aside IPL and looked undefeatable. But in this game, neither of them played that well. It looked like a very standard macro game between 2 pretty good players. Not really finals-worthy IMO. Also, I hate own3D too. It's just so astoundingly shit. What is wrong with a standard macro game? It was standard, but very well executed. Games do not need to contain innovative or flashy stuff to be "finals-worthy". | ||
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JohnMatrix
France1357 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:33 enemy2010 wrote: I dont think Stephano has good unit control/micro skills.... He pretty much always goes "1a" with his army, and therefore wins by macroing his opp out. Or am I wrong? stephano is known for his insane micro from wc3. | ||
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:34 Caesarion wrote: I think he has some of the best micro of any Zerg I've seen. Zerg micro isn't very hard. I guess mutas and banelings are hard to micro ZvT and ZvZ but Stephano prefers to make lings and roaches so... | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:36 enemy2010 wrote: Ok, everybody is telling me that i am wrong Maybe i should look closer to Stephanos play now :D there is a video of him on youtube taking out a terran gold with marine/tanks with just lings. he splilts the lings in and out to avoid tank splash.. it's effing nuts. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:32 Whalecore wrote: It's funny that most people consider Protoss a late game death ball race. Truth is, both Terran and especially Zerg beat Protoss in 200/200 engagements. Protoss death ball is a myth. Protoss needs to use the mobility of their units to win late game. The deathball is supposed to have upgraded VoidRays. Feedback the infestors, storm a bunch, Collosus lasers all the ground stuff, VRs mop up. But I agree that the Zerg ball is almost equally strong. Stephano prepared better for late game (getting all the upgrades) whilst Mana tried to finish it with attacks on the Zerg bases. Mana failed and lost the final battle. | ||
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JohnMatrix
France1357 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:34 SeaSwift wrote: Way to completely miss what I was saying. I'm not saying Mana and Stephano are bad - Mana has an amazing PvT, his PvP vs MC was world-class, and Stephano swept aside IPL and looked undefeatable. But in this game, neither of them played that well. It looked like a very standard macro game between 2 pretty good players. Not really finals-worthy IMO. Also, I hate own3D too. It's just so astoundingly shit. Mana is a passive players overall. you cant harass a toss easily | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:36 crms wrote: I feel like khaldor speaks more clearly but I still like RotterdaM's accent more. I may be heavily biased and not know it, I've been a big fan of rotti for a longggg time. I much prefer Khaldor's voice, Rotterdam has a very thick accent and is a little more annoying to me. I like them both though. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
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enemy2010
Germany1972 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:37 crms wrote: there is a video of him on youtube taking out a terran gold with marine/tanks with just lings. he splilts the lings in and out to avoid tank splash.. it's effing nuts. Link please? | ||
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JohnMatrix
France1357 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:37 0ne wrote: Zerg micro isn't very hard. I guess mutas and banelings are hard to micro ZvT but Stephano prefers to make lings and roaches so... because you think he doesnt micro his lings and roches ? you so wrong | ||
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On October 24 2011 00:35 HappyChris wrote: you very wrong Stephano got exstrem good unit control is his macro sometimes becuase he is a low econ zerg that can be his downfall Stephano is not a low econ zerg. He just makes sure he gets enough units early on if he needs them. He was maxed at 13min last game. | ||
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