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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
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Spitmode
Germany1510 Posts
 obvious apollo smile! | ||
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Grettin
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
On November 04 2011 14:35 Welmu wrote: I honestly think that it was necessary to get more muta counters in HOTS. They are used at the moment over than 1/3 games of PvZ and if Zerg manages to start producing mutas, before you scout Spire you are already hugely behind (if you are not going something like mass blink or 2 stargate phoenix blindly). The most problematic thing isn't straight Mutas, but people starting to realize that you don't have to go muta straight away. They just do some roach/ling action first and then suddenly there pops out 10 mutas. Only good response imo against mutas atm is 2 stargate phoenix since blink stalkers damage output is reallyyy bad and even though you would manage to hit mutas with storm they could go back to regnerate their hp. Wise zergs wouldnt never straight engage many templars. Also one more problem with mutas is that if you want to manage to handle them you have to commit a lot money to anti-air + cannons and zergs can easily switch out to roach/hydra ling/infestor/ling whatever army and not to just keep massing mutas all game long (even tho its very strong too) That's my opinion, but honestly I think WhiteRa's build was asking to be killed by mutas | ||
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ohampatu
United States1448 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:02 MCDayC wrote: TT1, what do you do when you see mass muta? I would imagine he 6 or 7 gate allins. Like every protoss. Im not one to say muta's are op. But muta's are ridiculously good at making a protoss stuck on 2 bases forever | ||
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Seiniyta
Belgium1815 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:02 MCDayC wrote: TT1, what do you do when you see mass muta? he gg's? :D But more seriously, probably storm is the best solution for muta's in large numbers. phoenix/stalkers in low numbers. | ||
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Mataru
Norway356 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46679 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:02 TT1 wrote: agreed apollo, in other words muts are op  The tempest might hard counter IdrA. If it actually ends up being as useful as it looks. | ||
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CutthroatCollapse
Germany309 Posts
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On November 05 2011 00:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: IdrA turned into Machine Ret turning into Jinro? Jinro has red hair and a moehawk now. He is his own beast and I wouldn't mind if other pro gramers wanted to look like him. (IMAGINE Artosis taking the Jinro look  This is something I can approve of) | ||
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Ornithorynquez
430 Posts
Btw with these chinhair they totally look like mormons :D | ||
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TT1
Canada10105 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:02 MCDayC wrote: TT1, what do you do when you see mass muta? popular belief is phoenixs but i dont like to do that, if u cant hallu scout with phoenixs 24/7 then u should go stargate cus u always have to be ready for a mut switch but if u scout correctly(which ill admit is hard) then u can hold it with blink stalkers + cannons(u need an early 3rd tho) while making an op army(cus mut comps are extremely weak obv), the key is being ready for the transition beforehand.. if u get caught off guard then ur pretty much fucked | ||
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Khalum
Austria831 Posts
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:03 Welmu wrote: That's my opinion, but honestly I think WhiteRa's build was asking to be killed by mutas nerf mutas for ZvP..then things are even more ridiculous for ZvT. | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:02 MCDayC wrote: TT1, what do you do when you see mass muta? You either need blink or open stargate. Going reactionnary stargate after seeing the mutas doesn't work. At this point you have to open stargate or deny scooting enough to keep zerg on his toes. Both of which Whitera didn't do. | ||
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ohampatu
United States1448 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: The tempest might hard counter IdrA. If it actually ends up being as useful as it looks. Have you seen Idra play zvp? He doesn't play zvp like he does zvt. Tempest will have no effect on Idra vs Protoss at all. | ||
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Tek_
Canada55 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:03 MisterTea wrote: dont care about the screen tearing, it's the extremely loud BLARGH that happens every now and then, Seriously, what the fuck is this? Destroying my ears every time it happens. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:05 Khalum wrote: I'm sorry if I missed something obvious.. but is there a way to see results besides reading every page of this thread? Liquipedia! Always, Liquipedia! + Show Spoiler + How do people still not know about Liquipedia? | ||
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
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