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[IeSF] No Korean SC2 player allowed in IeSF 2011 - Page 7

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flyersa
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany141 Posts
September 26 2011 20:02 GMT
#121
wtf....
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WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
September 26 2011 20:03 GMT
#122
finally a win for a foreigner on korean soil
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
KaiserReinhard
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States554 Posts
September 26 2011 20:04 GMT
#123
Kespa being Kespa.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10373 Posts
September 26 2011 20:04 GMT
#124
On September 27 2011 05:03 WightyCity wrote:
finally a win for a foreigner on korean soil


NO! i think they will pick gom or something, it is a curse a foreigner will never win!

Jk

Grrrr actually won a star league back then :D
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infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 26 2011 20:08 GMT
#125
On September 27 2011 01:41 OneWhoIsMany wrote:
If this is true (as the source is a dead link?) another example of why we are so lucky to not have Kespa being involved in the Starcraft 2 community.


Why is that lucky? If they were involved then there would be Korean players in, or do you not want that?

People jumping to blame KeSPA: it's BLIZZARD that shut KeSPA out of SC2. Their decision. You don't try and shut them out and then expect them to do things like this. There's no SC2 gamers with programing licenses and official with KeSPA so how can they pick anyone? What are they supposed to base their picks on when they are not allowed to be involved with the game?
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
September 26 2011 20:09 GMT
#126
On September 27 2011 04:56 0neder wrote:
Is KeSPA the esports organization or is it the BW organization. Shouldn't it recognize all esports in Korea? Answer: of course, but legally we're afraid.


KeSPA - Korean eSports Association.

SC2 isn't supported by them so i dont know why people are trippin.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 26 2011 20:09 GMT
#127
On September 27 2011 04:52 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:48 xBillehx wrote:
All they had to do was suggest it to GOM, they'd be more than welcome to choose a player based on GSL points or hold some sort of quick qualifier. Instead they literally prevent it from happening. It's not their place yet they're standing in the way? hmm.


They're not required to go to any lengths for SC2.

AFAIK They're not required to go to any lengths for FIFA either. Not only are they NOT choosing Korean representatives, they're NOT ALLOWING them.
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Tx3Jorge
Profile Joined September 2011
United States32 Posts
September 26 2011 20:11 GMT
#128
this is retarded.
smd bro, smd.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
September 26 2011 20:12 GMT
#129
well if they really don't want to spend any resources because they think SC2 is not big enough, then they can always go " Alright we'll recognize whoever GOM chooses" or they can even take from WCG qualifiers broadcasted on OGN.

Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 26 2011 20:12 GMT
#130
On September 27 2011 05:09 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:52 Gamegene wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:48 xBillehx wrote:
All they had to do was suggest it to GOM, they'd be more than welcome to choose a player based on GSL points or hold some sort of quick qualifier. Instead they literally prevent it from happening. It's not their place yet they're standing in the way? hmm.


They're not required to go to any lengths for SC2.

AFAIK They're not required to go to any lengths for FIFA either. Not only are they NOT choosing Korean representatives, they're NOT ALLOWING them.


+ Show Spoiler +

I think the above poster nailed it:

On September 27 2011 04:54 purgerinho wrote:
And just to mention one thing, IeSF is ment to be like FIBA or FIFA, it recognizes associations and GOM is not an association of that kind so KeSPA was (the) only choice in Korea.

I mean, look it from neutral side, KeSPA had nothing to do with it, they can't invite players that aren't under them and IeSF didn't wanted to do it - with reasons above.

Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
September 26 2011 20:12 GMT
#131
On September 27 2011 03:55 Milkis wrote:
it's kind of silly but in the end kespa probably just doesn't have the resources to pour into sc2 and get preliminaries rolling, especially since it's a game they're not in charge of.

yes it's silly but i bet it more has to do with the fact that they have enough trouble covering their bases on the events they officially recognize (esp when one of them needs a lot of attention atm ^^;; to have the resources to pour into sc2

the article is pretty sensationalist though since kespa will probably be covering sc2 in the future and they actually had long talks with blizzard about it. but i guess people are so quick to blame shit and sensationalize anything regarding kespa and assume things just because of things they've overheard and gotten sensationalized based on netizen reactions and assume their outdated information still hold

Also kind of funny people ask "Why is kespa in charge of iesf"... iesf is something kespa made to begin with


If they don't have the funds to do it, one text message to GOM asking them to help arrange and broadcast a qualifier would have fixed it. That is of course an absurd and outrageous idea since it would imply some will to cooperate.
hun13
Profile Joined December 2010
55 Posts
September 26 2011 20:15 GMT
#132
On September 27 2011 05:08 infinity2k9 wrote:


People jumping to blame KeSPA: it's BLIZZARD that shut KeSPA out of SC2. Their decision. Y


how would you react to some one using your product to make money and then cutting you 100% out of it. Blizzard is protecting their property.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 26 2011 20:16 GMT
#133
On September 27 2011 05:15 hun13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 05:08 infinity2k9 wrote:


People jumping to blame KeSPA: it's BLIZZARD that shut KeSPA out of SC2. Their decision. Y


how would you react to some one using your product to make money and then cutting you 100% out of it. Blizzard is protecting their property.


They did recently kiss and make up however (not sc2).
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 20:18:57
September 26 2011 20:16 GMT
#134
There's so many fucking stupid posts in this thread it's unbelievable. Does anyone read posts before posting their inane bullshit?

On September 27 2011 02:36 shell wrote:
lol KeSPA works so hard to be hated by all the foreigners, and lets face it.. THEY DO A GOOD JOB!

First they created a system where there was almost no chance for foreigner participation even tho there is alot of guys that love BW and SC2 outside of korea and could bring alot more exposure and money to their scene.. but they say NO!


Foreigners couldn't partake because they were INFERIOR AT THE GAME. There was nothing stopping anyone from getting involved except simply no one was dedicated as the Koreans. But yeah, clearly it's KeSPA holding back whitey. Foreigner scene was like amateur wheelchair basketball vs an NBA team.

On September 27 2011 05:15 hun13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 05:08 infinity2k9 wrote:


People jumping to blame KeSPA: it's BLIZZARD that shut KeSPA out of SC2. Their decision. Y


how would you react to some one using your product to make money and then cutting you 100% out of it. Blizzard is protecting their property.


How would they react? Well i dunno but they seemed pretty fucking fine about it when they were guests at an early OSL. Funny how they suddenly changed their minds right about SC2 time isn't it. I'm pretty sure they were happy about the 4.5 million copies of SC sold in SK as a result of the eSports hype too. But yes, blame KeSPA the non-profit organization.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 26 2011 20:16 GMT
#135
On September 27 2011 05:12 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 05:09 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:52 Gamegene wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:48 xBillehx wrote:
All they had to do was suggest it to GOM, they'd be more than welcome to choose a player based on GSL points or hold some sort of quick qualifier. Instead they literally prevent it from happening. It's not their place yet they're standing in the way? hmm.


They're not required to go to any lengths for SC2.

AFAIK They're not required to go to any lengths for FIFA either. Not only are they NOT choosing Korean representatives, they're NOT ALLOWING them.


+ Show Spoiler +

I think the above poster nailed it:

On September 27 2011 04:54 purgerinho wrote:
And just to mention one thing, IeSF is ment to be like FIBA or FIFA, it recognizes associations and GOM is not an association of that kind so KeSPA was (the) only choice in Korea.

I mean, look it from neutral side, KeSPA had nothing to do with it, they can't invite players that aren't under them and IeSF didn't wanted to do it - with reasons above.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe GOM was in charge of Alliance of Valiant Arms, but that didn't stop the choice of a Korean A.V.A. representative.
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
September 26 2011 20:17 GMT
#136
wtf? I thought Kespa and Blizzard made up.
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antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
September 26 2011 20:18 GMT
#137
Oh kespa, you did it again.
PlasticMilk
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada48 Posts
September 26 2011 20:19 GMT
#138
Well in that case I'm hoping for Grubby
where do dreams go
ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
September 26 2011 20:19 GMT
#139
this makes no sense. I don't understand why so many times korea manages to mess up tournaments like this.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 26 2011 20:20 GMT
#140
On September 27 2011 05:17 KevinIX wrote:
wtf? I thought Kespa and Blizzard made up.


SC2 is still exclusive to Gretech. SC2 progamers don't and probably can't have progaming licences. But that is Blizzard's choice not KeSPA. If they were allowed to support SC2 when of course they would.
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