EPT[IeSF] No Korean SC2 player allowed in IeSF 2011 - Page 6
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
On September 27 2011 01:38 GTR wrote: how ironic that a starcraft tournament in korea will be won by a non-korean. Select might take it :p | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On September 27 2011 04:42 VirgilSC2 wrote: I didn't say they were well founded fears at all, I for one know Brood War is still going strong in Korea, much more so than SC2. However, with OGN branching out and broadcasting the WCG Korea stuff, you would think KeSPA would be just as accommodating if they wanted the scene to grow at all. What do they gain by preventing Korean players from competing in a tournament that is already going to host SC2 whether Koreans play or not? The simple answer is that they can't send any players. SC2 isn't in their jurisdiction. Yes, it sucks that there isn't going to be any GSL players competing, but it's not their job to associate themselves with SC2. Whether they spite SC2 with all their hate or love it to death, it's not their place. | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
On September 27 2011 04:46 Gamegene wrote: The simple answer is that they can't send any players. SC2 isn't in their jurisdiction. Yes, it sucks that there isn't going to be any GSL players competing, but it's not their job to associate themselves with SC2. Whether they spite SC2 with all their hate or love it to death, it's not their place. All they had to do was suggest it to GOM, they'd be more than welcome to choose a player based on GSL points or hold some sort of quick qualifier. Instead they literally prevent it from happening. It's not their place yet they're standing in the way? hmm. | ||
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LittleAtari
Jordan1090 Posts
or is it that they weren't allowed to ask anyone else but kespa? | ||
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eloist
United States1017 Posts
It's like they took someone else's ball and went home with it. I mean, either Kespa signed and agreement to pick the players and IeSF is now bound to that or they could just ask someone else, no? | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On September 27 2011 04:48 xBillehx wrote: All they had to do was suggest it to GOM, they'd be more than welcome to choose a player based on GSL points or hold some sort of quick qualifier. Instead they literally prevent it from happening. It's not their place yet they're standing in the way? hmm. They're not required to go to any lengths for SC2. | ||
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MattyClutch
United States711 Posts
On September 27 2011 04:50 LittleAtari wrote: So they asked an organization that isn't involved in SC2 to pick the SC2 players... lolwhat? or is it that they weren't allowed to ask anyone else but kespa? I was curios about this also. Seems odd to ask Kespa when they (apparently) want nothing to do with SC2. | ||
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
there aren't players that plays SC2 under KeSPA and IeSF done great job. Look it from their side. They will be in good relations with KeSPA and they will promote SC2 even further. I mean, what are the chances foreigner wins tournament in Korea if Koreans are playing? There will be a chance for Koreans at WCG that is held in Korea so this is ment to be something different. And there are two different games, that are under KeSPA and that are played by many gamers around the world (SC2 is not the only popular game). Two games beats one game. And in those games chances are more even for everybody. And just to mention one thing, IeSF is ment to be like FIBA or FIFA, it recognizes associations and GOM is not an association of that kind so KeSPA was only choice in Korea. I mean, look it from neutral side, KeSPA had nothing to do with it, they can't invite players that aren't under them and IeSF didn't wanted to do it - with reasons above. | ||
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AdelSC123
France362 Posts
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TheButtonmen
Canada1403 Posts
On the bright side we're going to outlive the | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
On September 27 2011 04:52 Gamegene wrote: They're not required to go to any lengths for SC2. They don't have to. Again, a SC2 tournament is happening at IeSF regardless, but they're preventing any Korean from participating by not at least letting IeSF management go ask GOM? They're putting more effort into stopping it than they would have to by just letting it go. They're not required to go to any lengths to benefit SC2, but stopping Korean participation is just up their alley? | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On September 27 2011 04:34 Gamegene wrote: That or it knows SC2 is just a small niche market in Korea and BW is doing just fine, cause it is. Fabulous even. I guess you haven't read the BW forums lately? Teams are shutting down left and right. Leagues are closing up shop. TV stations will be ending their mainstream coverage soon. BW is struggling to exist as an E-Sport. It's not thriving. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On September 27 2011 04:57 Chargelot wrote: I guess you haven't read the BW forums lately? Teams are shutting down left and right. Leagues are closing up shop. TV stations will be ending their mainstream coverage soon. BW is struggling to exist as an E-Sport. It's not thriving. OSL Finals viewership numbers. Honestly, BW is in no danger of disappearing. Despite the recent flow of bad news, she'll still be around for at least a couple more years. Let's not light the beacons of Gondor just yet. On September 27 2011 04:56 xBillehx wrote: They don't have to. Again, a SC2 tournament is happening at IeSF regardless, but they're preventing any Korean from participating by not at least letting IeSF management go ask GOM? They're putting more effort into stopping it than they would have to by just letting it go. They're not required to go to any lengths to benefit SC2, but stopping Korean participation is just up their alley? I think the above poster nailed it: On September 27 2011 04:54 purgerinho wrote: And just to mention one thing, IeSF is ment to be like FIBA or FIFA, it recognizes associations and GOM is not an association of that kind so KeSPA was (the) only choice in Korea. I mean, look it from neutral side, KeSPA had nothing to do with it, they can't invite players that aren't under them and IeSF didn't wanted to do it - with reasons above. | ||
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
KeSPA is as good or bad as Blizzard. But I would say that Blizzard is bad guy of this story. I mean, they will never give us a LAN option what saying everything about their plans (monopoly). | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
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