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bubl100500
Profile Joined March 2011
Ukraine538 Posts
September 26 2011 20:20 GMT
#141
This is really retarded. Why is Kespa in charge of sc2 tournament if they don't recognize it?
KatuStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada161 Posts
September 26 2011 20:21 GMT
#142
This looks to me like Kespa is making a power play to have SC2 teams recognize it as their governing body since the sc2con was disbanded.
Video games and whiskey.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
September 26 2011 20:22 GMT
#143
On September 27 2011 05:09 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:52 Gamegene wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:48 xBillehx wrote:
All they had to do was suggest it to GOM, they'd be more than welcome to choose a player based on GSL points or hold some sort of quick qualifier. Instead they literally prevent it from happening. It's not their place yet they're standing in the way? hmm.


They're not required to go to any lengths for SC2.

AFAIK They're not required to go to any lengths for FIFA either. Not only are they NOT choosing Korean representatives, they're NOT ALLOWING them.

Korean FIFA players are under the jurisdiction of Kespa. Korean SC2 players are not.

People over-reacting over a bunch of misinformation.

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
September 26 2011 20:22 GMT
#144
On September 27 2011 01:37 parazice wrote:
if no Korean then my bet => Happy


you bet on happy also in a goody vs happy bo5 final ?
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
September 26 2011 20:24 GMT
#145
This reminds me of the time when my little brother yelled "IF I CANT HAVE IT, YOU CANT EITHER!" and spat on my food when I took the last slice of pizza. He learned not to do something like that again after a punch in the face. I hope someone teaches Kespa that.
☆*:.。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 20:26:07
September 26 2011 20:24 GMT
#146
On September 27 2011 05:21 KatuStarcraft wrote:
This looks to me like Kespa is making a power play to have SC2 teams recognize it as their governing body since the sc2con was disbanded.


...What?

Read the thread!

Community headlines:
"Sc2con disbanded + KeSPA doesn't help SC2 =/= Powerplay"
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
kiy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal593 Posts
September 26 2011 20:24 GMT
#147
There are only two things that are infinite: the Universe and Human stupidity.
Wisemen speak when they have something to say. Others speak when they have to say something.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 20:33:34
September 26 2011 20:25 GMT
#148
On September 27 2011 05:21 KatuStarcraft wrote:
This looks to me like Kespa is making a power play to have SC2 teams recognize it as their governing body since the sc2con was disbanded.


This isn't possible for christs sake. KeSPA cannot be involved with SC2. Can it be said any clearer. Blizzard decided the shots here, unlike the other eSports involved. It doesn't matter if the teams all want it, KeSPA wants it or anyone wants it because they can't.

Seriously why people don't point the figure at Blizzard i don't know. KeSPA is just an easy thing for people to hate i guess. Blizz hyped up a game as a new eSports, sequel to the biggest eSport ever, in the biggest eSport nation in the world, and deciding to fucking try and cut out the government-supported governing body of eSports. An organization which has bought nothing but MASSIVE free publicity to Blizzard. It's a mind boggling stupid strategy for the sake of what exactly? More control over Gretech and some puny licensing fee's? Why would partial or full developer control over eSports even be a good thing in the first place. It worked very very well before without them getting involved.
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
September 26 2011 20:25 GMT
#149
... really? They put a BW organisation in charge of SC2? Are they mad?

"Yo, is that the Football Association?"

"Yes."

"You're in charge of football/soccer in the UK, right?"

"That is correct"

"Sweet can you pick us a rugby team for this massive tournament that's being held?"

It should either be based on GSL points or on fan votes, surely?
Pisko.
Profile Joined August 2011
United States214 Posts
September 26 2011 20:26 GMT
#150
When did TL get so filled with anti-BW/Kespa propaganda?
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CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
September 26 2011 20:29 GMT
#151
Honestly this just doesn't matter to me... Just another subpar tournament that will (or at least should) go unnoticed to most starcraft 2 fans. There are so many great tournaments out there which feature the best players in the world, who cares if this IeSF wants to play in the B-league of SC2?
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
September 26 2011 20:29 GMT
#152
On September 27 2011 05:26 Pisko. wrote:
When did TL get so filled with anti-BW/Kespa propaganda?


kespa has never been liked on TL, ever.
:3
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 20:30:06
September 26 2011 20:29 GMT
#153
On September 27 2011 05:25 SgtCoDFish wrote:
... really? They put a BW organisation in charge of SC2? Are they mad?

"Yo, is that the Football Association?"

"Yes."

"You're in charge of football/soccer in the UK, right?"

"That is correct"

"Sweet can you pick us a rugby team for this massive tournament that's being held?"

It should either be based on GSL points or on fan votes, surely?


KeSPA isn't BW only.

If anything, it was poor decision by IeSF to let KeSPA handle ALL Korean representatives when they have nothing to do with SC2.

You can't fault KeSPA for their actions. It's a slap in the face, asking them to choose a representative for a game that competes with one they're in charge of.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
September 26 2011 20:30 GMT
#154
lol kespa being silly ?
or am i misjusting this?

this seems so ridiculously silly to me though
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 20:32:07
September 26 2011 20:30 GMT
#155
On September 27 2011 04:36 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 01:04 Dante08 wrote:
WTF lol. Held in Korea but no Koreans allowed, great for foreigners but sucks for us spectators. And KeSPA being KeSPA

It's not their fault. They'd recognise it if Blizzard and GOMTV would actually let them have some control over the scene.


If stuff like this is the cost for keeping Kespa out of SC2 then it's a cheap price.

On September 27 2011 04:34 Alabasern wrote:
Ah I guess this serves Starcraft II it's due justice for being inferior to Brood War in terms I cannot fully express.


And yet you complain about SC2 posters mocking in BW threads, class act.
CoB-Vince
Profile Joined July 2010
143 Posts
September 26 2011 20:30 GMT
#156
It is cocky by IeSF to let Kespa choose players.

I dont know what they were hoping for
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
September 26 2011 20:31 GMT
#157
Are Huk or Jinro participating because then it would be like a foreigner invite and at the same time sort of a korean being represented!
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
September 26 2011 20:32 GMT
#158
On September 27 2011 03:56 l10f wrote:
I don't get what's up with all the kespa hate. I agree kespa makes questionable decisions often, but this time I feel like they made the correct decision. IeSF should not have asked kespa to pick Korean reps because kespa is not the group that manages Korean sc2 progamers. That's like asking a softball organization to pick baseball players. I don't wanna get into talking about whether kespa is necessary in sc2 or not but this is not something to blame kespa for.


....They shouldn't have asked, but KESPA shouldn't have fucking accepted if they're not going to do anything...
Holykitty
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands246 Posts
September 26 2011 20:33 GMT
#159
i dont understand why kespas comments are relevant? they have nothing to do with this. whats the actual reason they didnt invite koreans?
Where there's smoke, there's me
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
September 26 2011 20:33 GMT
#160
There's a lot of blind hatred for KeSPA in this thread. It's not their fault they were put in charge of selecting from a pool of players they have no representation of or jurisdiction over.
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