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[IeSF] No Korean SC2 player allowed in IeSF 2011 - Page 9

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farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
September 26 2011 20:33 GMT
#161
finally a foreigner will win a korean tournament!!!
tubs
Profile Joined March 2010
764 Posts
September 26 2011 20:35 GMT
#162
Well at least Kespa still gives me a good laugh every time I read about them. It's also their tournament so they can do whatever they want. Pure comedy gold though!
"Roach dies to immortal and rockit black guy" - Tierdal.thex
300ml
Profile Joined January 2011
United States32 Posts
September 26 2011 20:38 GMT
#163
On September 27 2011 05:29 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 05:26 Pisko. wrote:
When did TL get so filled with anti-BW/Kespa propaganda?


kespa has never been liked on TL, ever.


Correct me if I'm wrong cause I haven't really been following the scene, but wasn't it the other way around? I think gom with blizzard wanted all the rights for sc2 when it first started and even wanted BW. Then there was the whole kespa vs gretech/gom and blizzard. That tension still exist today?

so maybe kespa holds the tournament but not allowing korean sc2 players enter cause they're under GOM?

Drolla
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom389 Posts
September 26 2011 20:39 GMT
#164
On September 27 2011 01:14 SafeAsCheese wrote:
It wouldn't be a serious tourney anyway

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IeSF_2011_World_Championship#Qualified_Players

only 1/2 the players on the list are even "knowns"


Only three players I don't know, if they are in this tournament they must be pretty decent.
sdk890
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2 Posts
September 26 2011 20:39 GMT
#165
it isn't actually that hard to understand, IeSF stands for International e-Sports Federation, of which Kespa is a member, so therefore, Kespa runs all the qualifiers in Korea. It isn't a matter of IeSF "choosing" Kespa or anything like that, as i would have to guess all the qualifiers in other countries were run by organizations that are members of IeSF in their own countries, though USA has no IeSF member according to their website so can't say for sure. Kespa is just choosing not to run an sc2 qualifier, for whatever reason
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 20:40:37
September 26 2011 20:39 GMT
#166
This is really silly. I found IeSF guilty in this case. As it was said above, you can't ask NFL to pick NHL players for the Olympics.

p.s. Actually who manages korean SC2 players ? And why KeSPA doesn't ? This is honest question.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
September 26 2011 20:40 GMT
#167
There has never been an organsiation that is worse for E-sports then Kespa
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 26 2011 20:41 GMT
#168
Why would IeSF have KeSPA do the SC2 player selection? WTF? Massive organizational oversight? Oh right KeSPA has no jurisdiction over SC2 players oh fuck we're dumbasses?
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 26 2011 20:43 GMT
#169
On September 27 2011 05:16 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 05:12 Gamegene wrote:
On September 27 2011 05:09 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:52 Gamegene wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:48 xBillehx wrote:
All they had to do was suggest it to GOM, they'd be more than welcome to choose a player based on GSL points or hold some sort of quick qualifier. Instead they literally prevent it from happening. It's not their place yet they're standing in the way? hmm.


They're not required to go to any lengths for SC2.

AFAIK They're not required to go to any lengths for FIFA either. Not only are they NOT choosing Korean representatives, they're NOT ALLOWING them.


+ Show Spoiler +

I think the above poster nailed it:

On September 27 2011 04:54 purgerinho wrote:
And just to mention one thing, IeSF is ment to be like FIBA or FIFA, it recognizes associations and GOM is not an association of that kind so KeSPA was (the) only choice in Korea.

I mean, look it from neutral side, KeSPA had nothing to do with it, they can't invite players that aren't under them and IeSF didn't wanted to do it - with reasons above.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe GOM was in charge of Alliance of Valiant Arms, but that didn't stop the choice of a Korean A.V.A. representative.

Considering it's been like 3 pages and nobody has said otherwise.....I'm pretty curious.
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mrafaeldie12
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil537 Posts
September 26 2011 20:43 GMT
#170
Wow this is so xenophobic -_-
"..it all comes thumbling down thumbling down thumblin down"
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
September 26 2011 20:44 GMT
#171
I am not going to watch this tournament and I hope the invited players will refuse to play.
Nomad-
Profile Joined February 2011
119 Posts
September 26 2011 20:45 GMT
#172
Why on earth would you pick KESPA to pick the players? Why not GOM since they run the premier league in korea. Makes no sense
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
September 26 2011 20:45 GMT
#173
kespa keeping esports from growing? ?
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 26 2011 20:45 GMT
#174
On September 27 2011 05:43 mrafaeldie12 wrote:
Wow this is so xenophobic -_-

Yeah racist Koreans not inviting Koreans. :/
Off-season = best season
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
September 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#175
i'll be laughing my ass off if some how select is chosen for being "NA" and wins the tournament.
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Smatin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States34 Posts
September 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#176
Hmm thats pretty funny. The foreign tournaments are gonna be more difficult because they have koreans xD
rdcpohl
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada188 Posts
September 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#177
just to fuck with the all the really skilled players, kespa should send bitbybit
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
September 26 2011 20:49 GMT
#178
To be honest, I don't know who to be pissed at. The whole situation pretty much sucks. Personally, I think that IeSF should give the rights to pick a player to Gom as opposed to Kespa. As they are the current holders of the GSL, they should be able to make the best decision on who should be the representative.
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wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 20:55:09
September 26 2011 20:51 GMT
#179
On September 27 2011 05:39 sdk890 wrote:
it isn't actually that hard to understand, IeSF stands for International e-Sports Federation, of which Kespa is a member, so therefore, Kespa runs all the qualifiers in Korea. It isn't a matter of IeSF "choosing" Kespa or anything like that, as i would have to guess all the qualifiers in other countries were run by organizations that are members of IeSF in their own countries, though USA has no IeSF member according to their website so can't say for sure. Kespa is just choosing not to run an sc2 qualifier, for whatever reason


Kespa not choosing to run a SC2 qualifier would be because they aren't in charge or part of SC2.

Edit:

To add, Kespa is in charge of Pro-gamers for all the other games listed in IeSF - except SC2, so they held no qualifiers or a Rep, because why/how the fuck would they?
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
September 26 2011 20:51 GMT
#180
On September 27 2011 05:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 05:16 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2011 05:12 Gamegene wrote:
On September 27 2011 05:09 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:52 Gamegene wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:48 xBillehx wrote:
All they had to do was suggest it to GOM, they'd be more than welcome to choose a player based on GSL points or hold some sort of quick qualifier. Instead they literally prevent it from happening. It's not their place yet they're standing in the way? hmm.


They're not required to go to any lengths for SC2.

AFAIK They're not required to go to any lengths for FIFA either. Not only are they NOT choosing Korean representatives, they're NOT ALLOWING them.


+ Show Spoiler +

I think the above poster nailed it:

On September 27 2011 04:54 purgerinho wrote:
And just to mention one thing, IeSF is ment to be like FIBA or FIFA, it recognizes associations and GOM is not an association of that kind so KeSPA was (the) only choice in Korea.

I mean, look it from neutral side, KeSPA had nothing to do with it, they can't invite players that aren't under them and IeSF didn't wanted to do it - with reasons above.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe GOM was in charge of Alliance of Valiant Arms, but that didn't stop the choice of a Korean A.V.A. representative.

Considering it's been like 3 pages and nobody has said otherwise.....I'm pretty curious.

Kespa probably has jurisdiction, there's a list of licensed A.V.A. players on the Kespa website.
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