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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
On September 27 2011 05:43 VirgilSC2 wrote: Considering it's been like 3 pages and nobody has said otherwise.....I'm pretty curious. I went ahead and googled this for you and I appears that KeSPA does recognize Alliance of Valiant Arms. http://www.e-sports.or.kr/esports/eng/esports_intro_20_sub.kea?m_code=espor_20&code_item=39 | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On September 27 2011 05:49 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: To be honest, I don't know who to be pissed at. The whole situation pretty much sucks. Personally, I think that IeSF should give the rights to pick a player to Gom as opposed to Kespa. As they are the current holders of the GSL, they should be able to make the best decision on who should be the representative. If I understood it correctly, the rights to pick Korean players aren't IeSF's to give, they belong to KeSPA by default. Same goes for the rights to act like a four year old child aswell unfortunately. | ||
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CeriseCherries
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ambient_orange
170 Posts
 maybe im exagerating but i think there is some truth in it? | ||
digmouse
China6327 Posts
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price
United States297 Posts
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MonDeW
Denmark369 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On September 27 2011 05:57 ambient_orange wrote: why only the bad guys(politicians or some power having parties or like kespa(no offence) can easily say something and make others look bad, rude, etc..but simple people cannot just say something in such way that all people would aknowledge how bad kespa and what kespa itself would aknowledge that everyone is dissapointed that they ignore starctaft2 maybe im exagerating but i think there is some truth in it? Because you choose to view it like that. | ||
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ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
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fant0m
964 Posts
On September 27 2011 05:56 CeriseCherries wrote: -.- mm but personally i feel that IeSF isn't getting a lot of love internationally either... both Sheth and IdrA pulled out.... poor IeSF... Aw that's sad. When is this event? Is IdrA not going to be in Korea before it happens?? Kind of a dick move to pull out if he's going to be in the country anyway. Especially considering the exposure that IdrA could have brought to an event like this (both in Korea and outside of it). Also, wtf is A.V.A.? | ||
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Goggalor
United States310 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Imagine if Fifa and Uefa had a falling out and the former excluded all the European nations from participating in the World Cup because they don't 'recognise them'. | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On September 27 2011 06:01 fant0m wrote: Aw that's sad. When is this event? Is IdrA not going to be in Korea before it happens?? Kind of a dick move to pull out if he's going to be in the country anyway. Especially considering the exposure that IdrA could have brought to an event like this (both in Korea and outside of it). Also, wtf is A.V.A.? I don't know why Sheth withdrew but IdrA was invited to IPL3 which is the same weekend. | ||
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
On September 27 2011 05:41 Ownos wrote: Why would IeSF have KeSPA do the SC2 player selection? WTF? Massive organizational oversight? Oh right KeSPA has no jurisdiction over SC2 players oh fuck we're dumbasses? Because KeSPA chooses every other games reps. So its easy for IeSF to give it to KeSPA every year. but back on topic. with people saying sc2 should be given to KeSPA. You guys don't know how frikin hard it is to get KeSPA players to play outside of KeSPA sactioned events. Which means no more Koreans at MLG or IEM, or anything like that. Look at what they did with gom back during the classic's. Also there would be no more Korean weekly either. I was trying to do a foreign vs Korean (bw) showmatch a few months ago for fun. I contacted KeSPA and I got a few responses. But eventually I never recieved responses back. I sent e-mail only for nothing to be sent back. Even with ICCup backing, I was never able to get anything done because KeSPA had basically shut me out of asking. I was told I could not contact teams personally, nor players. I even went to CJ Entus marketing manager and asked him. He sent an E-mail off to KeSPA encouraging them to allow their players to do this. He was very in favour of this and trying to get KeSPA to expand their borders to promote bw to a foreign audience. KeSPA ignored him and me. Its been 5 months almost. Not a single KeSPA e-mail has entered my mailbox since. So people saying having KeSPA work on the sc2 scene. it would be a huge boost to the Korean scene. But the Global scene would suffer. Foreigners would have a hella hard time going into Korea to play as well. and Koreans would be banned from joining foreign teams. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On September 27 2011 05:57 ambient_orange wrote: why only the bad guys(politicians or some power having parties or like kespa(no offence) can easily say something and make others look bad, rude, etc..but simple people cannot just say something in such way that all people would aknowledge how bad kespa and what kespa itself would aknowledge that everyone is dissapointed that they ignore starctaft2 maybe im exagerating but i think there is some truth in it? KeSPA IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE INVOLVED WITH STARCRAFT 2 Doesn't anyone read anything seriously. | ||
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wassbix
Canada499 Posts
On September 27 2011 05:25 infinity2k9 wrote: This isn't possible for christs sake. KeSPA cannot be involved with SC2. Can it be said any clearer. Blizzard decided the shots here, unlike the other eSports involved. It doesn't matter if the teams all want it, KeSPA wants it or anyone wants it because they can't. Seriously why people don't point the figure at Blizzard i don't know. KeSPA is just an easy thing for people to hate i guess. Blizz hyped up a game as a new eSports, sequel to the biggest eSport ever, in the biggest eSport nation in the world, and deciding to fucking try and cut out the government-supported governing body of eSports. An organization which has bought nothing but MASSIVE free publicity to Blizzard. It's a mind boggling stupid strategy for the sake of what exactly? More control over Gretech and some puny licensing fee's? Why would partial or full developer control over eSports even be a good thing in the first place. It worked very very well before without them getting involved. The profound silliness of this whole thread is that Kespa is blamed for not having jurisdiction over SC2, when a year ago people were celebrating that SC2 would be free from the tyranny of Kespa.... What. Grr Kespa did not select a SC2 rep for IeSF, they are fucking esports durrr. Fuck Kespa!!! *Ignores the fact that they have no registered SC2 pro, they were specifically ostracized by Blizzard for being involved with SC2* | ||
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Apollo_Shards
1210 Posts
On September 27 2011 05:25 infinity2k9 wrote: This isn't possible for christs sake. KeSPA cannot be involved with SC2. Can it be said any clearer. Blizzard decided the shots here, unlike the other eSports involved. It doesn't matter if the teams all want it, KeSPA wants it or anyone wants it because they can't. Seriously why people don't point the figure at Blizzard i don't know. KeSPA is just an easy thing for people to hate i guess. Blizz hyped up a game as a new eSports, sequel to the biggest eSport ever, in the biggest eSport nation in the world, and deciding to fucking try and cut out the government-supported governing body of eSports. An organization which has bought nothing but MASSIVE free publicity to Blizzard. It's a mind boggling stupid strategy for the sake of what exactly? More control over Gretech and some puny licensing fee's? Why would partial or full developer control over eSports even be a good thing in the first place. It worked very very well before without them getting involved. Are you serious? The only reason its brought "publicity" is because of all the stupid decisions they've made. Its common knowledge the KeSPA has been a huge detriment to almost everything in broodwar. If you think the only thing kespa would impose is "puny licensing fees" and "more control over gretech" you are sadly mistaken. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On September 27 2011 06:07 wassbix wrote: The profound silliness of this whole thread is that Kespa is blamed for not having jurisdiction over SC2, when a year ago people were celebrating that SC2 would be free from the tyranny of Kespa.... What. Grr Kespa did not select a SC2 rep for IeSF, they are fucking esports durrr. Fuck Kespa!!! *Ignores the fact that they have no registered SC2 pro, they were specifically ostracized by Blizzard for being involved with SC2* lol yeah, in the SC2Con thread people were saying that they don't want Kespa involved in SC2 at all. Then the same people come to this thread and moan about how Kespa is not getting involved in SC2. | ||
Fushin
France193 Posts
But if you follow this logic, there should be 1 Korean player. Nothing about a french presence either...And who the f is Agh ? Never heard of him :x | ||
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