• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:47
CEST 09:47
KST 16:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202533RSL Season 1 - Final Week8[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams3Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4
StarCraft 2
General
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster Why doesnt SC2 scene costream tournaments
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams ASL20 Preliminary Maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL
Tourneys
[CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 539 users

[IeSF] No Korean SC2 player allowed in IeSF 2011 - Page 5

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
454 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 21 22 23 Next All
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
September 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#81
May KeSpa go the way of the SC2-Conf - asap.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#82
On September 27 2011 04:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:30 Datum wrote:
Wow, I really don't get the anger coming from this article. From the point of view of the people running the tournament, of course I'd be angry. But from KeSPA's point of view: why spend money on supporting SC2 for the sake of a small tournament that isn't going to attract many viewers anyway?

Go ahead and disagree with KeSPA. That's fine. But the anger coming through in this article is unnecessary and counterproductive.

How much extra money does it take to support the game by offering invites to players locally? Nothing. It's KeSPA blocking SC2 in Korea because it fears Brood War is starting to fade. SC2 is going to be in the tournament regardless, KeSPA is just blocking Korean players from playing in the tournament. It's completely silly, that's where the anger is coming from.


That or it knows SC2 is just a small niche market in Korea and BW is doing just fine, cause it is.
Fabulous even.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
elfen
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)52 Posts
September 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#83
figured KeSPA will do something like this... They always do some very weird like this lol...
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
September 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#84
On September 27 2011 04:03 EcstatiC wrote:
why are they even using kespa? theres no bw in the tourney, so they shouldve gone to gretech for SC2. kespas shown all along theyve got the maturity level of a 4 year old.


KeSPA is involved with more than just BW. I don't see why people are upset with them about this.
BW forever || Thall
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
September 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#85
Ah I guess this serves Starcraft II it's due justice for being inferior to Brood War in terms I cannot fully express.

User was warned for this post
Support your esport!
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
September 26 2011 19:36 GMT
#86
On September 27 2011 01:04 Dante08 wrote:
WTF lol. Held in Korea but no Koreans allowed, great for foreigners but sucks for us spectators. And KeSPA being KeSPA

It's not their fault. They'd recognise it if Blizzard and GOMTV would actually let them have some control over the scene.
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
September 26 2011 19:37 GMT
#87
How stupid is it to hold an event in Korea for starcraft 2 and have 0 Koreans playing at the event? What a dumb event, people shouldn't go to this if that's the case and I surely won't be watching.
SlayerS Fighting!
FreedonNadd
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria573 Posts
September 26 2011 19:38 GMT
#88
It's like a North American Championship, without any North American player. Would be similar if NASL forbids players like Incontrol or Machine to participate, and only DeMusliM and Puma were allowed.
Some people wear Superman pajamas, but Superman has Day[9] pajamas.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
September 26 2011 19:38 GMT
#89
On September 27 2011 04:34 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:30 Datum wrote:
Wow, I really don't get the anger coming from this article. From the point of view of the people running the tournament, of course I'd be angry. But from KeSPA's point of view: why spend money on supporting SC2 for the sake of a small tournament that isn't going to attract many viewers anyway?

Go ahead and disagree with KeSPA. That's fine. But the anger coming through in this article is unnecessary and counterproductive.

How much extra money does it take to support the game by offering invites to players locally? Nothing. It's KeSPA blocking SC2 in Korea because it fears Brood War is starting to fade. SC2 is going to be in the tournament regardless, KeSPA is just blocking Korean players from playing in the tournament. It's completely silly, that's where the anger is coming from.


That or it knows SC2 is just a small niche market in Korea and BW is doing just fine, cause it is.
Fabulous even.


Yay, just what we needed. People to bring up the BW v SC2 debate.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
nemahsys
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada457 Posts
September 26 2011 19:39 GMT
#90
this is blowing my mind more then when I read they made neutrinos travel faster than the speed of light the other day.
DJ Wheat, if you read this, plz get Lo3 back on itunes stat!
zolii
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland141 Posts
September 26 2011 19:39 GMT
#91
On September 27 2011 01:38 GTR wrote:
how ironic that a starcraft tournament in korea will be won by a non-korean.


HAHA slasher is cutting his hairl 100% :D
Skiba
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany153 Posts
September 26 2011 19:39 GMT
#92
i understand kespa. they have no broadcasting rights or any involvement in the scene, so why should they waste time and money for basicly no refund.
every zergling has a twin brother
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 26 2011 19:40 GMT
#93
On September 27 2011 04:38 Apollo_Shards wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:34 Gamegene wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:30 Datum wrote:
Wow, I really don't get the anger coming from this article. From the point of view of the people running the tournament, of course I'd be angry. But from KeSPA's point of view: why spend money on supporting SC2 for the sake of a small tournament that isn't going to attract many viewers anyway?

Go ahead and disagree with KeSPA. That's fine. But the anger coming through in this article is unnecessary and counterproductive.

How much extra money does it take to support the game by offering invites to players locally? Nothing. It's KeSPA blocking SC2 in Korea because it fears Brood War is starting to fade. SC2 is going to be in the tournament regardless, KeSPA is just blocking Korean players from playing in the tournament. It's completely silly, that's where the anger is coming from.


That or it knows SC2 is just a small niche market in Korea and BW is doing just fine, cause it is.
Fabulous even.


Yay, just what we needed. People to bring up the BW v SC2 debate.


lol, I'm not saying SC2 is bad or BW deserves the spotlight, but you can't say that SC2 is anywhere near as popular in Korea.

What you think of it personally doesn't matter.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
September 26 2011 19:41 GMT
#94
This is so weird... Why is KeSPA even involved in SC2 matters?
/commercial
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
September 26 2011 19:41 GMT
#95
-_-?? This is so strange
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
September 26 2011 19:41 GMT
#96
Ciara hwaiting! denmark represent
In the woods, there lurks..
.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
September 26 2011 19:41 GMT
#97
tbh, kespa should just send flash :>
eujjjjj
ForeverAzerG
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom101 Posts
September 26 2011 19:42 GMT
#98
so silly.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 26 2011 19:42 GMT
#99
On September 27 2011 04:34 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:30 Datum wrote:
Wow, I really don't get the anger coming from this article. From the point of view of the people running the tournament, of course I'd be angry. But from KeSPA's point of view: why spend money on supporting SC2 for the sake of a small tournament that isn't going to attract many viewers anyway?

Go ahead and disagree with KeSPA. That's fine. But the anger coming through in this article is unnecessary and counterproductive.

How much extra money does it take to support the game by offering invites to players locally? Nothing. It's KeSPA blocking SC2 in Korea because it fears Brood War is starting to fade. SC2 is going to be in the tournament regardless, KeSPA is just blocking Korean players from playing in the tournament. It's completely silly, that's where the anger is coming from.


That or it knows SC2 is just a small niche market in Korea and BW is doing just fine, cause it is.
Fabulous even.

I didn't say they were well founded fears at all, I for one know Brood War is still going strong in Korea, much more so than SC2. However, with OGN branching out and broadcasting the WCG Korea stuff, you would think KeSPA would be just as accommodating if they wanted the scene to grow at all. What do they gain by preventing Korean players from competing in a tournament that is already going to host SC2 whether Koreans play or not?
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
sponsquar9
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1 Post
September 26 2011 19:43 GMT
#100
This is sad news for the Korean players. To me, it's not about that KeSPA has never heard of it but what about the players? Normally in the end, the players have the right to join the tournament, and to represent there country. I say let the players play there dominate game.
Everybody gets 1
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 21 22 23 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech71
StarCraft: Brood War
Nal_rA 5198
Hyuk 4059
Zeus 1368
BeSt 429
ToSsGirL 265
Leta 92
Backho 62
Sacsri 62
ajuk12(nOOB) 24
NaDa 18
[ Show more ]
Britney 0
Dota 2
XcaliburYe142
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K684
Other Games
summit1g5657
ceh9651
SortOf39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1198
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH446
• Sammyuel 33
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota258
Upcoming Events
Esports World Cup
2h 13m
ByuN vs Zoun
SHIN vs TriGGeR
Cyan vs ShoWTimE
Rogue vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs Solar
Reynor vs Maru
herO vs Cure
Serral vs Classic
Esports World Cup
1d 2h
Esports World Cup
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Online Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.