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[IeSF] No Korean SC2 player allowed in IeSF 2011 - Page 5

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Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
September 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#81
May KeSpa go the way of the SC2-Conf - asap.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#82
On September 27 2011 04:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:30 Datum wrote:
Wow, I really don't get the anger coming from this article. From the point of view of the people running the tournament, of course I'd be angry. But from KeSPA's point of view: why spend money on supporting SC2 for the sake of a small tournament that isn't going to attract many viewers anyway?

Go ahead and disagree with KeSPA. That's fine. But the anger coming through in this article is unnecessary and counterproductive.

How much extra money does it take to support the game by offering invites to players locally? Nothing. It's KeSPA blocking SC2 in Korea because it fears Brood War is starting to fade. SC2 is going to be in the tournament regardless, KeSPA is just blocking Korean players from playing in the tournament. It's completely silly, that's where the anger is coming from.


That or it knows SC2 is just a small niche market in Korea and BW is doing just fine, cause it is.
Fabulous even.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
elfen
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)52 Posts
September 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#83
figured KeSPA will do something like this... They always do some very weird like this lol...
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
September 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#84
On September 27 2011 04:03 EcstatiC wrote:
why are they even using kespa? theres no bw in the tourney, so they shouldve gone to gretech for SC2. kespas shown all along theyve got the maturity level of a 4 year old.


KeSPA is involved with more than just BW. I don't see why people are upset with them about this.
BW forever || Thall
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
September 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#85
Ah I guess this serves Starcraft II it's due justice for being inferior to Brood War in terms I cannot fully express.

User was warned for this post
Support your esport!
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
September 26 2011 19:36 GMT
#86
On September 27 2011 01:04 Dante08 wrote:
WTF lol. Held in Korea but no Koreans allowed, great for foreigners but sucks for us spectators. And KeSPA being KeSPA

It's not their fault. They'd recognise it if Blizzard and GOMTV would actually let them have some control over the scene.
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
September 26 2011 19:37 GMT
#87
How stupid is it to hold an event in Korea for starcraft 2 and have 0 Koreans playing at the event? What a dumb event, people shouldn't go to this if that's the case and I surely won't be watching.
SlayerS Fighting!
FreedonNadd
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria573 Posts
September 26 2011 19:38 GMT
#88
It's like a North American Championship, without any North American player. Would be similar if NASL forbids players like Incontrol or Machine to participate, and only DeMusliM and Puma were allowed.
Some people wear Superman pajamas, but Superman has Day[9] pajamas.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
September 26 2011 19:38 GMT
#89
On September 27 2011 04:34 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:30 Datum wrote:
Wow, I really don't get the anger coming from this article. From the point of view of the people running the tournament, of course I'd be angry. But from KeSPA's point of view: why spend money on supporting SC2 for the sake of a small tournament that isn't going to attract many viewers anyway?

Go ahead and disagree with KeSPA. That's fine. But the anger coming through in this article is unnecessary and counterproductive.

How much extra money does it take to support the game by offering invites to players locally? Nothing. It's KeSPA blocking SC2 in Korea because it fears Brood War is starting to fade. SC2 is going to be in the tournament regardless, KeSPA is just blocking Korean players from playing in the tournament. It's completely silly, that's where the anger is coming from.


That or it knows SC2 is just a small niche market in Korea and BW is doing just fine, cause it is.
Fabulous even.


Yay, just what we needed. People to bring up the BW v SC2 debate.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
nemahsys
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada457 Posts
September 26 2011 19:39 GMT
#90
this is blowing my mind more then when I read they made neutrinos travel faster than the speed of light the other day.
DJ Wheat, if you read this, plz get Lo3 back on itunes stat!
zolii
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland141 Posts
September 26 2011 19:39 GMT
#91
On September 27 2011 01:38 GTR wrote:
how ironic that a starcraft tournament in korea will be won by a non-korean.


HAHA slasher is cutting his hairl 100% :D
Skiba
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany153 Posts
September 26 2011 19:39 GMT
#92
i understand kespa. they have no broadcasting rights or any involvement in the scene, so why should they waste time and money for basicly no refund.
every zergling has a twin brother
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 26 2011 19:40 GMT
#93
On September 27 2011 04:38 Apollo_Shards wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:34 Gamegene wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:30 Datum wrote:
Wow, I really don't get the anger coming from this article. From the point of view of the people running the tournament, of course I'd be angry. But from KeSPA's point of view: why spend money on supporting SC2 for the sake of a small tournament that isn't going to attract many viewers anyway?

Go ahead and disagree with KeSPA. That's fine. But the anger coming through in this article is unnecessary and counterproductive.

How much extra money does it take to support the game by offering invites to players locally? Nothing. It's KeSPA blocking SC2 in Korea because it fears Brood War is starting to fade. SC2 is going to be in the tournament regardless, KeSPA is just blocking Korean players from playing in the tournament. It's completely silly, that's where the anger is coming from.


That or it knows SC2 is just a small niche market in Korea and BW is doing just fine, cause it is.
Fabulous even.


Yay, just what we needed. People to bring up the BW v SC2 debate.


lol, I'm not saying SC2 is bad or BW deserves the spotlight, but you can't say that SC2 is anywhere near as popular in Korea.

What you think of it personally doesn't matter.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
September 26 2011 19:41 GMT
#94
This is so weird... Why is KeSPA even involved in SC2 matters?
/commercial
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
September 26 2011 19:41 GMT
#95
-_-?? This is so strange
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
September 26 2011 19:41 GMT
#96
Ciara hwaiting! denmark represent
In the woods, there lurks..
.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
September 26 2011 19:41 GMT
#97
tbh, kespa should just send flash :>
eujjjjj
ForeverAzerG
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom101 Posts
September 26 2011 19:42 GMT
#98
so silly.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 26 2011 19:42 GMT
#99
On September 27 2011 04:34 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:30 Datum wrote:
Wow, I really don't get the anger coming from this article. From the point of view of the people running the tournament, of course I'd be angry. But from KeSPA's point of view: why spend money on supporting SC2 for the sake of a small tournament that isn't going to attract many viewers anyway?

Go ahead and disagree with KeSPA. That's fine. But the anger coming through in this article is unnecessary and counterproductive.

How much extra money does it take to support the game by offering invites to players locally? Nothing. It's KeSPA blocking SC2 in Korea because it fears Brood War is starting to fade. SC2 is going to be in the tournament regardless, KeSPA is just blocking Korean players from playing in the tournament. It's completely silly, that's where the anger is coming from.


That or it knows SC2 is just a small niche market in Korea and BW is doing just fine, cause it is.
Fabulous even.

I didn't say they were well founded fears at all, I for one know Brood War is still going strong in Korea, much more so than SC2. However, with OGN branching out and broadcasting the WCG Korea stuff, you would think KeSPA would be just as accommodating if they wanted the scene to grow at all. What do they gain by preventing Korean players from competing in a tournament that is already going to host SC2 whether Koreans play or not?
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
sponsquar9
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1 Post
September 26 2011 19:43 GMT
#100
This is sad news for the Korean players. To me, it's not about that KeSPA has never heard of it but what about the players? Normally in the end, the players have the right to join the tournament, and to represent there country. I say let the players play there dominate game.
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