• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:53
CEST 03:53
KST 10:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy19ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy3GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding7Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage5Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
JD's Ro24 review Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
JD's Ro24 review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The China Politics Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2967 users

[IeSF] No Korean SC2 player allowed in IeSF 2011 - Page 2

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
454 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 21 22 23 Next All
mighty_honour_korea
Profile Joined March 2010
Scotland198 Posts
September 26 2011 16:44 GMT
#21
Is anyone able to explain why IeSF can't just find someone else to recommend a representative, or choose one themselves?
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
September 26 2011 16:48 GMT
#22
Why would they give control over to KeSPA?
Does that even make sense? They have absolutely nothing to do with SC2.
if (post == "stupid") { document.getElementById('post').style.display = 'none'; }
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
September 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#23
Yeah, it's strange that IeSF is trying to rely on KeSPA here. It makes some sense that KeSPA refuses to pick a representative since they have nothing to do with SC2 right now.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
September 26 2011 17:00 GMT
#24
I guess it shows people who were saying " we need kespa for sc2" in the sc2con thread that kespa is a terrible organisation, they have done some good stuff for bw, but also a LOT of stupid ones, like this one.
Skarmory
Profile Joined May 2011
112 Posts
September 26 2011 17:06 GMT
#25
Idra has been slumping, but the only person there he has to play well against is Sjow, just saying.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
September 26 2011 17:09 GMT
#26
On September 27 2011 02:00 Jetaap wrote:
I guess it shows people who were saying " we need kespa for sc2" in the sc2con thread that kespa is a terrible organisation, they have done some good stuff for bw, but also a LOT of stupid ones, like this one.

it would be stupid if KeSPA tries to pick a sc2 representative for Korea. They have absolutely nothing to do with it in Korea right now. The IeSF organizer is the one to blame here

We do need KeSPA's professionalism for Sc2 though
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 26 2011 17:10 GMT
#27
they emailed me an invite a few months back and basically I asked "is this for SC2?" and they went "nope" then I thanked em but declined. It would seem upon more thought they have gone with SC2
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 17:14:59
September 26 2011 17:11 GMT
#28
On September 27 2011 02:06 Skarmory wrote:
Idra has been slumping, but the only person there he has to play well against is Sjow, just saying.

yeah aside from goody, happy, osho and softball. all of these can beat idra and don't need that much luck for it imo.

on topic: like said, why on earth kespa? pretty obvious they don't send anyone.

edit: LOL true IdrA isn't even on the list :S
windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
September 26 2011 17:13 GMT
#29
On September 27 2011 02:11 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 02:06 Skarmory wrote:
Idra has been slumping, but the only person there he has to play well against is Sjow, just saying.

yeah aside from goody, happy, osho and softball. all of these can beat idra and don't need that much luck for it imo.


Since when is Idra going? He's playing IPL 3.
Yeah
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
September 26 2011 17:24 GMT
#30
Why are so many people shocked that they don't want to promote a competitors product essentially? Once BW is less profitable, they'll make the switch to support SC2. Logic only follows money, not sentiment.
Hudson Valley Progamer
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 26 2011 17:26 GMT
#31
On September 27 2011 02:24 Klipsys wrote:
Why are so many people shocked that they don't want to promote a competitors product essentially? Once BW is less profitable, they'll make the switch to support SC2. Logic only follows money, not sentiment.


I don't really see how that's logical. You don't actively do things to make the market you might one day try get into not want you in there. It just makes no sense. This isn't really promoting SC2 in korea. There's still an SC2 even in Korea, it just makes Korea look laughable that they can't get their own players to an event in their own country.

It makes no business sense.
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
September 26 2011 17:27 GMT
#32
i agree, like 50% of the players are unknown.
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
September 26 2011 17:33 GMT
#33
Kind of silly they put KeSPA in the position to choose, but even more so that they're refusing. I hope the Korean fans throw a shitfit. Sigh.
Taengoo ♥
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
September 26 2011 17:36 GMT
#34
lol KeSPA works so hard to be hated by all the foreigners, and lets face it.. THEY DO A GOOD JOB!

First they created a system where there was almost no chance for foreigner participation even tho there is alot of guys that love BW and SC2 outside of korea and could bring alot more exposure and money to their scene.. but they say NO!
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
September 26 2011 17:48 GMT
#35
Sigh... that sucks... Kespa being the standard Kespa it was many years ago!
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
September 26 2011 17:54 GMT
#36
This is IeSF... the lineup isn't supposed to be super top notch. Idk if you guys have never seen an IeSF before, or what you're thinking, but IeSF is all about inviting as many nations as possible to bring 1 2 or 3 competitors to compete in an awesome battle of the nations tournament.
Similar to WCG, but obviously different. It's called the International eSports Federation because they aim at international competition, not the utmost and highest level of competition.
Should be a great IeSF, and I hope KeSPA dies in a burning flame. And that all people making real decisions in KeSPA somehow go bankrupt and live miserable lives.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
September 26 2011 18:07 GMT
#37
yay, KeSPA getting it's hands dirty in SC2 so soon already. awesome. I hope all the KeSPA fanboys in the sc2con disbands thread reads this thread and takes a serious thought about their "magical organization that made esports happen!"

Talk about acting childish to prove a point.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
September 26 2011 18:08 GMT
#38
foreigners hope!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45458 Posts
September 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#39
I get to finally use the "This is ruining e-sports" meme! Hurrah!

But on a more serious note, I think this is really odd, not to mention the fact that everyone wants to see Koreans. Why get pumped for a tournament unless the best of the best are going to be playing?

KeSPA isn't really making many friends...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
September 26 2011 18:15 GMT
#40
kespa sucks
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 21 22 23 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
RO32 Group A
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
ZZZero.O189
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft425
WinterStarcraft229
RuFF_SC2 180
UpATreeSC 84
ROOTCatZ 38
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 189
910 60
NaDa 27
Dota 2
canceldota463
LuMiX1
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor131
Other Games
gofns21243
summit1g12652
JimRising 425
C9.Mang0328
Mew2King15
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick657
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 50
• davetesta31
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• 3DClanTV 36
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift6584
Other Games
• Scarra1855
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 7m
WardiTV Team League
9h 7m
OSC
11h 7m
BSL
17h 7m
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
IPSL
17h 7m
Artosis vs TBD
Napoleon vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Wardi Open
1d 8h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 8h
Soma vs YSC
Sharp vs sSak
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 14h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
[ Show More ]
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Escore
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
IPSL
6 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.