I really wish they would remove Belshir Beach and Xel Naga Fortress from the mappool. T.T
Nevertheless Check played really good. I didn't see any roaches. I guess thats the charm. :D

Mike15xp

United States595 Posts

September 07 2011 10:54 GMT

#1071

beats losira loses to check ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ its was bel shir beach but seriously? -.-

s3rp

Germany3192 Posts

September 07 2011 10:54 GMT

#1072

In the Code A Qualifiers he made similar mistakes when he got super nervous . He oblitterated the Zerg in Code A though with great splitting ...

usethis2

2164 Posts

September 07 2011 10:54 GMT

#1073

On September 07 2011 19:30 marttorn wrote:
This is what I love about toss like MC HerO and Naniwa: They want to WIN. Not to always entertain the fans by only doing macro games, rather they're abusive and will do an allin if they have to or if they get the chance and they decide that they can win.

I assume then you're supportive of 1/1/1 as well as BitByBit. I do, too.

Asha

United Kingdom38255 Posts

September 07 2011 10:54 GMT

#1074

On September 07 2011 19:53 JKira wrote:

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Didn't he show some godly marine splitting in his first Code A series? I'm pretty sure he was just looking elsewhere for some inexplicable reason

I'd wager if you could see his FPVOD he'd have been concentrating on getting a CC to safety at that moment. He knew Check had burrow and he'd need scans to be safe vs burrow. Then ironically died to banelings without burrow.

naux

Canada738 Posts

September 07 2011 10:54 GMT

#1075

On September 07 2011 19:52 rareh wrote:
jjaki and check are playing the best, both will go through.

what were you watching jjaki doesnt even micro

Demonace34

United States2493 Posts

September 07 2011 10:54 GMT

#1076

On September 07 2011 19:48 Heavenly wrote:

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On September 07 2011 19:47 Demonace34 wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:45 Medrea wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:43 Dommk wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:39 Medrea wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:37 Dommk wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:30 NewteN wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:23 ragnorr wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:22 NewteN wrote:
So tired of this 'all-in' term. MC on two bases and pulled no probes. WTF

he cut probes at 34, had no tech and 6 gates. Hes all in(if it dint work, he would have lost).
All in is a term that dont require you to pull workers, but a tactic that if you lose the attack, you lose the game

It's retarded is what it is. This is MC, not some bronze leaguer who's somehow going to not do enough damage with 11 +1 zealots, a sentry for ramp and 3-4 VRs for him to outright lose the game if it doesn't win right then and there. MAYBE Kyrix holds, but how the F is he going to win if MC loses 11 lots/sent and probably saves 2-3 VRs???

No tech? He's up to +1 and a Stargate? He's walled. I seriously have no idea why this is cheese or all-in.

That was all-in as all-in gets.

Did you look at the saturation of his natural? He only had two mining per patch on both bases, with no gas taken. On top of that he had 300gas in the bank.

If that attacked failed, if the pylon got scouted, if the Zerg saw it coming then MC would have been done. It may still have done a little damage but there is no chance in hell that he can win from there.

Protoss isn't like Terran, you can't recover from low-econ all-ins as well as Terran can because of how reliant you are on a good econ and gas.

Protoss doesn't really bank resources and 2 on each patch is optimal as the third only mines half.

40 probes 10mins into the game is not optimal by any means.

He was banking gas because he was building nothing but Zealots. Though at the end he made some sentry warp-ins and burned it all

Regardless it was an all-in. 40 Probes just doesn't cut it considering in the next few minutes you have to rebuild an army AND Tech AND build another 20~ Probes.

Chronoboost probes for the first few minutes your mineral spending increases as you are producing probes at a faster rate, it takes a minute or two before the Probes kick in and pay themselves off, unlike Mules which are almost instant gain

Yeah but your also kind of implying that it would be better to try and compete with zerg in a macro sense. Much better to just go fucking kill him when he has no units. Ultra fast 3rd? Yeah might as well give up on a macro game as any race. Better to just go end the game.

Or tech and secure your 3rd base and get decent upgrades and a deathball. Na nevermind he should do an "aggressive timing attack" (all-in) to finish the game.

And be massively behind because Kyrix made nothing but drones that entire time and teched to hydras extremely fast to deal with any possible pressure beyond colossi which would have taken forever to make in sufficient numbers to attack and move across the map, putting Kyrix in an amazing mid game position.

Yeah, pressure into a 3rd base couldn't of done any damage or force units out of the zerg player. (sorry for the sarcasm) This is more of a problem with going FFE and not having any potential to put pressure on without going horribly all-in.

MC just decided he wanted to end the game after the FFE with an all-in, eventually I think better players will go for more macro oriented builds by feigning an all-in attack and build up to late game. Different people like playing differently though, and his decision in that game wasn't bad...but it was aggressive.

Also, this is over a game old in a LR thread, I'm going to just shush and watch the games.