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priste
Profile Joined September 2011
United States171 Posts
September 07 2011 10:57 GMT
#1101
Ok, this is it. This game shall have hugging Ultras!

go LosirA
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2011 10:57 GMT
#1102
On September 07 2011 19:56 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 19:55 Probe1 wrote:
(Z)LosirA
vs
(Z)Kyrix
on
Tal'Darim Altar

2:00
FE for Losira
14g14p for Kyrix

4:00
Kyrix expands on 21 while Losira gets a spine crawler at natural and baneling nest
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 11:00:41
September 07 2011 10:58 GMT
#1103
On September 07 2011 19:54 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 19:48 Heavenly wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:47 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:45 Medrea wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:43 Dommk wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:39 Medrea wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:37 Dommk wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:30 NewteN wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:23 ragnorr wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:22 NewteN wrote:
So tired of this 'all-in' term. MC on two bases and pulled no probes. WTF

he cut probes at 34, had no tech and 6 gates. Hes all in(if it dint work, he would have lost).
All in is a term that dont require you to pull workers, but a tactic that if you lose the attack, you lose the game


It's retarded is what it is. This is MC, not some bronze leaguer who's somehow going to not do enough damage with 11 +1 zealots, a sentry for ramp and 3-4 VRs for him to outright lose the game if it doesn't win right then and there. MAYBE Kyrix holds, but how the F is he going to win if MC loses 11 lots/sent and probably saves 2-3 VRs???

No tech? He's up to +1 and a Stargate? He's walled. I seriously have no idea why this is cheese or all-in.

That was all-in as all-in gets.

Did you look at the saturation of his natural? He only had two mining per patch on both bases, with no gas taken. On top of that he had 300gas in the bank.

If that attacked failed, if the pylon got scouted, if the Zerg saw it coming then MC would have been done. It may still have done a little damage but there is no chance in hell that he can win from there.

Protoss isn't like Terran, you can't recover from low-econ all-ins as well as Terran can because of how reliant you are on a good econ and gas.



Protoss doesn't really bank resources and 2 on each patch is optimal as the third only mines half.

40 probes 10mins into the game is not optimal by any means.

He was banking gas because he was building nothing but Zealots. Though at the end he made some sentry warp-ins and burned it all

Regardless it was an all-in. 40 Probes just doesn't cut it considering in the next few minutes you have to rebuild an army AND Tech AND build another 20~ Probes.

Chronoboost probes for the first few minutes your mineral spending increases as you are producing probes at a faster rate, it takes a minute or two before the Probes kick in and pay themselves off, unlike Mules which are almost instant gain


Yeah but your also kind of implying that it would be better to try and compete with zerg in a macro sense. Much better to just go fucking kill him when he has no units. Ultra fast 3rd? Yeah might as well give up on a macro game as any race. Better to just go end the game.


Or tech and secure your 3rd base and get decent upgrades and a deathball. Na nevermind he should do an "aggressive timing attack" (all-in) to finish the game.


And be massively behind because Kyrix made nothing but drones that entire time and teched to hydras extremely fast to deal with any possible pressure beyond colossi which would have taken forever to make in sufficient numbers to attack and move across the map, putting Kyrix in an amazing mid game position.


Yeah, pressure into a 3rd base couldn't of done any damage or force units out of the zerg player. (sorry for the sarcasm) This is more of a problem with going FFE and not having any potential to put pressure on without going horribly all-in.

MC just decided he wanted to end the game after the FFE with an all-in, eventually I think better players will go for more macro oriented builds by feigning an all-in attack and build up to late game. Different people like playing differently though, and his decision in that game wasn't bad...but it was aggressive.

Also, this is over a game old in a LR thread, I'm going to just shush and watch the games.


MC is a better player than you despite how clever you think you are and how much you think you understand the game. If he didn't think it was a good build he wouldn't have revealed it when he had a risk of falling down into Code B. It's always silly arguing with the keyboard warriors who try and say what the "better payers" would do. How would he have feigned an all in, exactly? Since Kyrix didn't even bother scouting and just did what he wanted to under the assumption that he would be massively ahead if MC did choose to play a macro game (which he almost always does nowadays)? Show a ton of zealots and voidrays in the middle of the map and have the possibility of all those units being picked off and it being insta-gg because he would never secure a third? If MC played a macro game he was dead because Kyrix was literally as greedy as possible, and now you're acting like he should have played into Kyrix's hands.

But yeah, let's watch the game.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 07 2011 10:59 GMT
#1104
On September 07 2011 19:56 clusen wrote:
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On September 07 2011 19:55 MrCon wrote:
Bad game from jjakji, on bel'shir you have to wall the left entrance of your nat (when you're bottom), then expand to the gold with a line a turret/tanks from the nat to the gold. Exactly how qxc played it, and he was immune from counter attacks. Don't know why he didn't do that, it should be standard on those new zergmaps (dual sight and belshir)

Jjakj had the game at 2 points anyway, he just blew it.

And people here are really blaming the map lol.

Yeah this is a good map for ZvT but a good simcity negates this well. I remember qxc, he had 2 rax, a bunker and turret behind and some tanks to wall his left side, this was perfect.
Scrumdidlyumptious
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia235 Posts
September 07 2011 10:59 GMT
#1105
Kicked in the nads
Samoajoe
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark53 Posts
September 07 2011 10:59 GMT
#1106
Tokyo drift, are the kidding me?
hippocritical
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia465 Posts
September 07 2011 11:00 GMT
#1107
On September 07 2011 19:59 Samoajoe wrote:
Tokyo drift, are the kidding me?


Damn gaijins.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
September 07 2011 11:00 GMT
#1108
On September 07 2011 19:59 Scrumdidlyumptious wrote:
Kicked in the nads

Doa will forever be associated with body part jokes.

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[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
September 07 2011 11:00 GMT
#1109
are people still talking about the MC game

rofl...
Prime/MarineKing!!! www.twitter.com/DayTripperSC
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2011 11:00 GMT
#1110
On September 07 2011 19:57 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 19:56 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:55 Probe1 wrote:
(Z)LosirA
vs
(Z)Kyrix
on
Tal'Darim Altar

2:00
FE for Losira
14g14p for Kyrix

4:00
Kyrix expands on 21 while Losira gets a spine crawler at natural and baneling nest

7:25
Banelings waddle into the Kyrix main and kill 5 drones. Kyrix says: My turn.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2011 11:01 GMT
#1111
On September 07 2011 20:00 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
are people still talking about the MC game

rofl...

that's because we expect MC to play like a champion..
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 07 2011 11:01 GMT
#1112
Losira skipped the Roaches, he's going Mutas...
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
September 07 2011 11:01 GMT
#1113
2 banes kill 2 banes "woah nice job killing some banes from Losira there"

.......................
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
September 07 2011 11:01 GMT
#1114
Check vs MC will be a good games, Check needs to win not to have to face Losi for a place in Code S, while MC needs to win so he can get a chance to play another game to try reclaim code S!!!
Live and Let Die!
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
September 07 2011 11:02 GMT
#1115
nestea style spines
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 07 2011 11:02 GMT
#1116
mmmmhhhh starting spire with 10 roaches already on the map, pretty ballsy
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
September 07 2011 11:02 GMT
#1117
On September 07 2011 20:01 BuzZoo wrote:
2 banes kill 2 banes "woah nice job killing some banes from Losira there"

.......................

*facehoof*
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 07 2011 11:02 GMT
#1118
Losira sees roaches, will go spire imo.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
September 07 2011 11:02 GMT
#1119
haven't seen a 2base muta in a long time
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2011 11:02 GMT
#1120
On September 07 2011 20:00 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 19:57 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:56 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:55 Probe1 wrote:
(Z)LosirA
vs
(Z)Kyrix
on
Tal'Darim Altar

2:00
FE for Losira
14g14p for Kyrix

4:00
Kyrix expands on 21 while Losira gets a spine crawler at natural and baneling nest

7:25
Banelings waddle into the Kyrix main and kill 5 drones. Kyrix says: My turn.

9:00
Both players Lair complete at the same time. Losira instantly drops a spire. Kyrix starts +1 ranged attack and roach speed.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
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