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On September 07 2011 00:28 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 00:25 kid4444 wrote:On September 06 2011 23:48 OrchidThief wrote:I'd be surprised if anyone but Losira and MC walked away with a Code S spot from this. Check, Kyrix and Jjakji are all decent players, but I don't think either of them belong in code S. My predictions: + Show Spoiler [Overall results] +Although Jjakji might abuse 1/1/1 against MC on Metalopolis for a win there if it gets that far. haha yes would be funny if he wins code S with 1-1-1. Which terran need 1-1-1 to beat MC anyways lol? He lost to Noblesse in such fashion that I doubt he will stay code S since Jjakji is hyped by many as a complete beast and LosirA already beat MC when he was winning code B zergs like Moon, not the MC of now who loses Moon & BboongBboong... If you lose to Moon you can lose to Check too, who is regaining some form. Anyways I hope that someday he starts beating ass again, raping everyone to win GSL or something like that. But he may have to go to code A before that
Taeja? Ryung? 2 of the better Terrans in the world? lol?
The #1 MKP fan is also an avid MC hater. Don't buy the lame cover up comment at the end ("But I wish him the best!!")
If I were to reply in the same vein Poopi - which finalist needs to do anything to beat MKP lol? No one apparently, MKP is an over hyped choke artist. He can't win anything important to save his life. Oh! but I like his micro and hope he does well in the future.
You see how unbelievably dick-ish that sounds? No need to make comments like that.
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Guys if MC drops to Code A its not the end of the world! Its his own fault for not practicing hard enough! he needs to be the player that rammed his opponents on his way to win 2 GSLs! i dont think he will disappoint his fans like he has done the past month(s) this time
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On September 05 2011 10:49 skrzmark wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 07:50 MrCon wrote:
There are a lot of curses involved.
First, the winner of this GSL will go to the up and downs, or perhaps if lucky only lose in ro32, staying in code S.
With that out of the way :
- everybody sees MVP and Polt in the finals. That means the finals will NOT be MVP vs Polt. Most likely TOP vs MVP
- which is comforted by the finals curse. Polt vs MVP could be a good final, TOP vs MVP should not
So, the conclusion is TOP and MVP will win tomorrow. July vs TOP/Polt would make a good final, so MVP will win, Polt vs MVP too, so TOP will win. It hasn't happened with Nestea after winning a championship. I think the curse is the Finalist curse, if you get 4-0'd in the finals you drop down to the up/down matches of next season. Inca gets 4-0'd by Nestea and is now Code B. MMA gets 4-0'd by Polt, got knocked out of Code A. Losira gets 4-0'd by Nestea is now in up/downs.
So by this, it means Losira is headed to Code A.  sorry Losira/Zerg fans. Even though MarineKing got 4-0'd it took longer for him to drop to Code A. Eventually he did though.
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On September 07 2011 00:40 QTIP. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 00:28 Poopi wrote:On September 07 2011 00:25 kid4444 wrote:On September 06 2011 23:48 OrchidThief wrote:I'd be surprised if anyone but Losira and MC walked away with a Code S spot from this. Check, Kyrix and Jjakji are all decent players, but I don't think either of them belong in code S. My predictions: + Show Spoiler [Overall results] +Although Jjakji might abuse 1/1/1 against MC on Metalopolis for a win there if it gets that far. haha yes would be funny if he wins code S with 1-1-1. Which terran need 1-1-1 to beat MC anyways lol? He lost to Noblesse in such fashion that I doubt he will stay code S since Jjakji is hyped by many as a complete beast and LosirA already beat MC when he was winning code B zergs like Moon, not the MC of now who loses Moon & BboongBboong... If you lose to Moon you can lose to Check too, who is regaining some form. Anyways I hope that someday he starts beating ass again, raping everyone to win GSL or something like that. But he may have to go to code A before that Taeja? Ryung? 2 of the better Terrans in the world? lol? The #1 MKP fan is also an avid MC hater. Don't buy the lame cover up comment at the end ("But I wish him the best!!") If I were to reply in the same vein Poopi - which finalist needs to do anything to beat MKP lol? No one apparently, MKP is an over hyped choke artist. He can't win anything important to save his life. Oh! but I like his micro and hope he does well in the future. You see how unbelievably dick-ish that sounds? No need to make comments like that.
Taeja and Ryung are two of the better TvPers in the world?
I don't think so, Slayers terrans are bad vP and I don't think that they won against MC (or in GSTL maybe) anyways. I do not hate MC but sorry to make you remember that he does terrible (for MC) against terran right now, he keep being beaten by PuMa and lose to not that good terrans (Noblesse), and good terrans don't need 1-1-1 to beat him.
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Losira MC please
This last Code S was so brutal.....
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If MC weren't the only Protoss here... then he could bump down another Protoss lol
I hope he and Losira win this.
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On September 07 2011 00:24 Probe1 wrote:I don't care who wins as long as they aren't Terran. I never knew you could read Korean MrCon  I on the other hand have no clue what that says.
I can't =) But the pic is awesome.
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I hope that Losira and MC do it, but as long as Jjakji goes down to code A I won't complain.
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I really, really hope MC gets to stay in code s, I don't want code s to turn into a terran vs zerg royal that ends with tvts everywhere.
I'm hoping losira/mc make it, but god damn it who put jjakji in that group? I could see MC go to the next mlg if he doesn't make it though.
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Tough group for Losira 3 zergs anything can happen.
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On September 07 2011 01:03 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 00:40 QTIP. wrote:On September 07 2011 00:28 Poopi wrote:On September 07 2011 00:25 kid4444 wrote:On September 06 2011 23:48 OrchidThief wrote:I'd be surprised if anyone but Losira and MC walked away with a Code S spot from this. Check, Kyrix and Jjakji are all decent players, but I don't think either of them belong in code S. My predictions: + Show Spoiler [Overall results] +Although Jjakji might abuse 1/1/1 against MC on Metalopolis for a win there if it gets that far. haha yes would be funny if he wins code S with 1-1-1. Which terran need 1-1-1 to beat MC anyways lol? He lost to Noblesse in such fashion that I doubt he will stay code S since Jjakji is hyped by many as a complete beast and LosirA already beat MC when he was winning code B zergs like Moon, not the MC of now who loses Moon & BboongBboong... If you lose to Moon you can lose to Check too, who is regaining some form. Anyways I hope that someday he starts beating ass again, raping everyone to win GSL or something like that. But he may have to go to code A before that Taeja? Ryung? 2 of the better Terrans in the world? lol? The #1 MKP fan is also an avid MC hater. Don't buy the lame cover up comment at the end ("But I wish him the best!!") If I were to reply in the same vein Poopi - which finalist needs to do anything to beat MKP lol? No one apparently, MKP is an over hyped choke artist. He can't win anything important to save his life. Oh! but I like his micro and hope he does well in the future. You see how unbelievably dick-ish that sounds? No need to make comments like that. Taeja and Ryung are two of the better TvPers in the world? I don't think so, Slayers terrans are bad vP and I don't think that they won against MC (or in GSTL maybe) anyways. I do not hate MC but sorry to make you remember that he does terrible (for MC) against terran right now, he keep being beaten by PuMa and lose to not that good terrans (Noblesse), and good terrans don't need 1-1-1 to beat him.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1849_Taeja
Hmm.. Taeja's TvP looks pretty good. If you watch the VOD's, the commentators actually heap praise on Taeja for being known as having excellent TvP in the Korean scene. In the Korean Weekly, he is frequently referred to as one of the best TvP'ers. Try not to make generalizations and group him with lackluster TvP of MMA / Ryung / Boxer.
MC keeps losing to PuMa, oh my god! He must be so bad! Right because at IEM, none of those games were close at all! PuMa might have the very best TvP in the world and is certainly one of the best players -- he's totally outclassing MC! Oh my god -- he dropped a game to Noblesse. That's it. He's done. You see how short-sighted this is?
Don't worry about making me remember, I follow the scene very closely and am well aware of a player's shortcomings and weak match-ups. In addition, I don't get the slightest bit upset when people talk about MC playing sub-optimally. It's 100% true.
What does irritate me, is when player's make heavily back-handed comments to avoid a ban or being viewed in a negative light. It's clear that you are either not thinking straight here -- or baiting. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not thinking straight.
Is MC struggling vs Terran? Of course he is. Does 1-1-1 pose a significant problem for MC like other Protoss? Of course it does.
Does this mean that every Terran out there can confidently take out MC without using 1-1-1?
Probably not. Even with 1-1-1? Again -- probably not.
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Anything but MC and LosirA winning will disappoint me ... but ...
If it ends up being Jjakji and Check advancing I will be so surprised, I guess I'll even be happy about that too ...
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If MC drops from code S, code S might as well become an exclusive club for Nestea and terrans only.
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Ugh. Checking the map stats, MC pretty much got the worst map+matchup for each game he plays.
Xel'Naga Fortress
ZvP: 8-6 (57.1%)
Antiga Shipyard 1.1
ZvP: 3-0 (100%)
Terminus SE
ZvP: 22-7 (75.9%)
Metalopolis 1.1
PvT:17-24 (41.5%)
Although to be fair, protoss-favored maps are few and far between.
Edited to look nicer
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Ugh, I hope MC can win and stay in Code S.....easily one of the most interesting Protosses due to his skill/personality.
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On September 07 2011 01:30 ma70 wrote:
Ugh, I hope MC can win and stay in Code S.....easily one of the most interesting Protosses due to his skill/personality.
100% agree.
He has such a great personality, I hope he stays in code S.
Him and July are my favorites when it comes to their weird choices and answers.
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On September 07 2011 01:26 QTIP. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 01:03 Poopi wrote:On September 07 2011 00:40 QTIP. wrote:On September 07 2011 00:28 Poopi wrote:On September 07 2011 00:25 kid4444 wrote:On September 06 2011 23:48 OrchidThief wrote:I'd be surprised if anyone but Losira and MC walked away with a Code S spot from this. Check, Kyrix and Jjakji are all decent players, but I don't think either of them belong in code S. My predictions: + Show Spoiler [Overall results] +Although Jjakji might abuse 1/1/1 against MC on Metalopolis for a win there if it gets that far. haha yes would be funny if he wins code S with 1-1-1. Which terran need 1-1-1 to beat MC anyways lol? He lost to Noblesse in such fashion that I doubt he will stay code S since Jjakji is hyped by many as a complete beast and LosirA already beat MC when he was winning code B zergs like Moon, not the MC of now who loses Moon & BboongBboong... If you lose to Moon you can lose to Check too, who is regaining some form. Anyways I hope that someday he starts beating ass again, raping everyone to win GSL or something like that. But he may have to go to code A before that Taeja? Ryung? 2 of the better Terrans in the world? lol? The #1 MKP fan is also an avid MC hater. Don't buy the lame cover up comment at the end ("But I wish him the best!!") If I were to reply in the same vein Poopi - which finalist needs to do anything to beat MKP lol? No one apparently, MKP is an over hyped choke artist. He can't win anything important to save his life. Oh! but I like his micro and hope he does well in the future. You see how unbelievably dick-ish that sounds? No need to make comments like that. Taeja and Ryung are two of the better TvPers in the world? I don't think so, Slayers terrans are bad vP and I don't think that they won against MC (or in GSTL maybe) anyways. I do not hate MC but sorry to make you remember that he does terrible (for MC) against terran right now, he keep being beaten by PuMa and lose to not that good terrans (Noblesse), and good terrans don't need 1-1-1 to beat him. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1849_TaejaHmm.. Taeja's TvP looks pretty good. If you watch the VOD's, the commentators actually heap praise on Taeja for being known as having excellent TvP in the Korean scene. In the Korean Weekly, he is frequently referred to as one of the best TvP'ers. Try not to make generalizations and group him with lackluster TvP of MMA / Ryung / Boxer. MC keeps losing to PuMa, oh my god! He must be so bad! Right because at IEM, none of those games were close at all! PuMa might have the very best TvP in the world and is certainly one of the best players -- he's totally outclassing MC! Oh my god -- he dropped a game to Noblesse. That's it. He's done. You see how short-sighted this is? Don't worry about making me remember, I follow the scene very closely and am well aware of a player's shortcomings and weak match-ups. In addition, I don't get the slightest bit upset when people talk about MC playing sub-optimally. It's 100% true. What does irritate me, is when player's make heavily back-handed comments to avoid a ban or being viewed in a negative light. It's clear that you are either not thinking straight here -- or baiting. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not thinking straight. Is MC struggling vs Terran? Of course he is. Does 1-1-1 pose a significant problem for MC like other Protoss? Of course it does. Does this mean that every Terran out there can confidently take out MC without using 1-1-1? Probably not. Even with 1-1-1? Again -- probably not.
I said every good terran, because you know where MC is there are only good terrans and yeah I think it's downrating Jjakji to say he has to "1-1-1" to beat MC.
And yeah I really want to see MC shine again, it was not to "avoid a ban or being viewed in a negative light", I want to see MC dominate again like I wanted Mvp to dominate again, despite him winning MKP countless times (since you talked of him lol).
When I said "which terran need to 1-1-1 MC to win anyways lol?" I meant Jjakji and the potential code S terrans, because Noblesse is code S and 8-9 in TvP and still beat MC without 1-1-1.
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I really, really hope that we get to see all 10 games from this group. Just looking down the list, I'm excited about every single game.
To be honest, I think that Code S needs MC for next season. Only 5 Protoss players definitely in, next season and Trickster and JYP have a difficult group for Day 3.
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On September 07 2011 01:51 Sicariidae wrote:
I really, really hope that we get to see all 10 games from this group. Just looking down the list, I'm excited about every single game.
To be honest, I think that Code S needs MC for next season. Only 5 Protoss players definitely in, next season and Trickster and JYP have a difficult group for Day 3.
I don't see Trickster making it.
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