On September 10 2011 23:50 soulpoetry wrote: either could have won this really easily. destiny has lost so many infestors to banshees.
I mean, Destiny shouldn't even get a chance to win after all those drone losses in the beginning and 160vs120 supply difference with terran taking the gold base...
he crushed the two base timing attack and then drone up. this is quite common you know?
even tho he crushed that attack and droned up, TLO was still ahead in his worker counts and Destiny didn't even tech to lair. So he couldn't prevent TLO from takin his gold base, while he didn't even have his third running yet...
he delayed lair because he didn't want infestors at that point for whatever reason, he was sacking gas income for mineral income which allows for more lings to deny that push and so after that, he was able to grab a third even through he was low in drones and able to drone up and tech up (rushing to broodlords with the low amount of infestors.)
It is destiny's belief that zerg doesn't always have to have a weaker, larger army, he believes all it needs is to be cost effective, infestors and broodlords
I mean all those metagames are irrelevant when terran is up 160 supply against 120 of zerg's, and is running gold base @ XNC...
have you never seen 150 food protoss crushing 200 zerg?
Roaches counting for 2 supply is the cause of that
Not to turn it into a balance whine, but what T1 unit should zerg make vs protoss to stop the early gateway push when they have ~8 sentries?
So maxing out on roaches is a counter to a gateway push. Gotcha
On September 11 2011 00:13 herrmus wrote: destiny is so overrated
I take it you missed the first game where Destiny could have easily won the game after being down ~50 supply?
Or are ya trolling?
And you missed the fact that TLO could have won even earlier if he played correctly. That game was such a mess. And reading Destiny's fans comments , yes, Destiny is severely overrated.
On September 10 2011 23:50 soulpoetry wrote: either could have won this really easily. destiny has lost so many infestors to banshees.
I mean, Destiny shouldn't even get a chance to win after all those drone losses in the beginning and 160vs120 supply difference with terran taking the gold base...
he crushed the two base timing attack and then drone up. this is quite common you know?
even tho he crushed that attack and droned up, TLO was still ahead in his worker counts and Destiny didn't even tech to lair. So he couldn't prevent TLO from takin his gold base, while he didn't even have his third running yet...
he delayed lair because he didn't want infestors at that point for whatever reason, he was sacking gas income for mineral income which allows for more lings to deny that push and so after that, he was able to grab a third even through he was low in drones and able to drone up and tech up (rushing to broodlords with the low amount of infestors.)
It is destiny's belief that zerg doesn't always have to have a weaker, larger army, he believes all it needs is to be cost effective, infestors and broodlords
I mean all those metagames are irrelevant when terran is up 160 supply against 120 of zerg's, and is running gold base @ XNC...
have you never seen 150 food protoss crushing 200 zerg?
Roaches counting for 2 supply is the cause of that
Not to turn it into a balance whine, but what T1 unit should zerg make vs protoss to stop the early gateway push when they have ~8 sentries?
If you mean 4gate its easily held by only lings + spines. As for 6 gates you can get infestors out in time if you contaminate warpgate research two times and this is easy on most maps.
On September 11 2011 00:13 herrmus wrote: destiny is so overrated
I take it you missed the first game where Destiny could have easily won the game after being down ~50 supply?
Or are ya trolling?
Thats the power of the infestor, hes still getting outclassed in every area besides that.
That's not he power of infestor. TLO just played horribly, and made like 20+ vikings for 4 broolords and couldn't even finish off destiny and barely scraped a win. Shows more about TLO than destiny. However, Destiny does seem to crumble under early pressure, so props to tlo for understanding his opponent well.
On September 10 2011 23:50 soulpoetry wrote: either could have won this really easily. destiny has lost so many infestors to banshees.
I mean, Destiny shouldn't even get a chance to win after all those drone losses in the beginning and 160vs120 supply difference with terran taking the gold base...
he crushed the two base timing attack and then drone up. this is quite common you know?
even tho he crushed that attack and droned up, TLO was still ahead in his worker counts and Destiny didn't even tech to lair. So he couldn't prevent TLO from takin his gold base, while he didn't even have his third running yet...
he delayed lair because he didn't want infestors at that point for whatever reason, he was sacking gas income for mineral income which allows for more lings to deny that push and so after that, he was able to grab a third even through he was low in drones and able to drone up and tech up (rushing to broodlords with the low amount of infestors.)
It is destiny's belief that zerg doesn't always have to have a weaker, larger army, he believes all it needs is to be cost effective, infestors and broodlords
I mean all those metagames are irrelevant when terran is up 160 supply against 120 of zerg's, and is running gold base @ XNC...
have you never seen 150 food protoss crushing 200 zerg?
Roaches counting for 2 supply is the cause of that
Not to turn it into a balance whine, but what T1 unit should zerg make vs protoss to stop the early gateway push when they have ~8 sentries?
If you mean 4gate its easily held by only lings + spines. As for 6 gates you can get infestors out in time if you contaminate warpgate research two times and this is easy on most maps.
I don't think i have EVER seen wg get contaminated, what the hell?
On September 11 2011 00:13 herrmus wrote: destiny is so overrated
I take it you missed the first game where Destiny could have easily won the game after being down ~50 supply?
Or are ya trolling?
Easily? Not easily, he never had a base more than TLO, which you need as a zerg
No, it's not. Not if you know Destiny's playstyle. He wins vs even base (or hell, even against opponents with more bases sometimes).
His error was wasting all his infestor energy at the gold. That was absolutely worthless and left his gold naked. Before that, he was well on his way to the win.
On September 10 2011 23:51 redloser wrote: [quote]
I mean, Destiny shouldn't even get a chance to win after all those drone losses in the beginning and 160vs120 supply difference with terran taking the gold base...
he crushed the two base timing attack and then drone up. this is quite common you know?
even tho he crushed that attack and droned up, TLO was still ahead in his worker counts and Destiny didn't even tech to lair. So he couldn't prevent TLO from takin his gold base, while he didn't even have his third running yet...
he delayed lair because he didn't want infestors at that point for whatever reason, he was sacking gas income for mineral income which allows for more lings to deny that push and so after that, he was able to grab a third even through he was low in drones and able to drone up and tech up (rushing to broodlords with the low amount of infestors.)
It is destiny's belief that zerg doesn't always have to have a weaker, larger army, he believes all it needs is to be cost effective, infestors and broodlords
I mean all those metagames are irrelevant when terran is up 160 supply against 120 of zerg's, and is running gold base @ XNC...
have you never seen 150 food protoss crushing 200 zerg?
Roaches counting for 2 supply is the cause of that
Not to turn it into a balance whine, but what T1 unit should zerg make vs protoss to stop the early gateway push when they have ~8 sentries?
If you mean 4gate its easily held by only lings + spines. As for 6 gates you can get infestors out in time if you contaminate warpgate research two times and this is easy on most maps.
I don't think i have EVER seen wg get contaminated, what the hell?
EPT
