EPTOn August 28 2011 11:11 Yaki wrote:
Naniwa > HuK > Rain
Naniwa > HuK > Rain
Naniwa > HuK > Rain > Naniwa > HuK > Rain >Naniwa > HuK > Rain > Naniwa > HuK > Rain...
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Manslayer
Chile150 Posts
Naniwa > HuK > Rain > Naniwa > HuK > Rain >Naniwa > HuK > Rain > Naniwa > HuK > Rain... | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:12 KonohaFlash wrote: From MVP interview: Q: You've said some things about Terran balance on Twitter recently. (laughs) A: 1-1-1 is very strong. Because it has a lot of applications, it's really powerful. It's extremely difficult for Protoss. Even though it's really strong, I've rejected the 1-1-1 and don't use it in my games. (laughs) Fans have a lot of different reactions to the 1-1-1, but players can't help it. Don't progamers have to win? You have to understand how important it is. [T/N unsure on this last sentence, sorry. seems like MVP admits it is strong but thinks fan backlash is a little too harsh] Must be fun being wrong I guess. Milkis did actually retweet an MVP tweet where he did say during some of the Code A games that 1/1/1 should be disqualified. He clarified with the interview you cited later on. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:05 Shikyo wrote: With proper micro that actually should work Nope. Engage early -> you saw what happens. Wait -> he slow pushes while pumping marines, you can't tech, you die to marine dps. | ||
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
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TYJ.Aoy
Brazil1265 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:04 geno wrote: Yeah I don't understand that either. Seems like that counter should revolve around delay, delay, delay, and never push while hes sieged if you can avoid it (which you can when its in the middle of the map). Puma had half his SCVs there doing nothing, and Kiwi had plenty of room to fall back since he engaged so far out, not sure why he didn't bide his time longer  The possibilities are : he could be a very dumb player, but Kiwikaki is actually a extremely smart player as seen by his creative and well timed builds, the other possibility would be that his patience had ended but he is also an extremely good poker player so that's not it either and the last option we have is that you guys are actually just wrong (constant marine production provided by mules means that stalling without an expo is no good). | ||
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rolfe
United Kingdom1266 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:12 Montana[TK] wrote: is it over? nope one more i think http://twitter.com/#!/HuskyStarcraft/status/107636254681731072 | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:13 Manslayer wrote: Naniwa > HuK > Rain > Naniwa > HuK > Rain >Naniwa > HuK > Rain > Naniwa > HuK > Rain... Yaki is right. It is done by MLG seed. | ||
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Jinivus
747 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:09 Serpico wrote: Lol you complain too much, Kiwi needed to stall for time and he didnt do that. MC loses with 1 gate FE : "1 gate fe is so greedy, stall the push and put up a stargate" Kiwi stalls the push and puts up a stargate: oh wait fucking mules exist so puma can keep up marine and tank production. Every time a protoss gets destroyed by this people will theorycraft a new bronze level solution to this build that has been nearly unstoppable in pro level play. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:12 KonohaFlash wrote: From MVP interview: Q: You've said some things about Terran balance on Twitter recently. (laughs) A: 1-1-1 is very strong. Because it has a lot of applications, it's really powerful. It's extremely difficult for Protoss. Even though it's really strong, I've rejected the 1-1-1 and don't use it in my games. (laughs) Fans have a lot of different reactions to the 1-1-1, but players can't help it. Don't progamers have to win? You have to understand how important it is. [T/N unsure on this last sentence, sorry. seems like MVP admits it is strong but thinks fan backlash is a little too harsh] Must be fun being wrong I guess. He said that on his twitter, not in an interview. You're wrong. | ||
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ak1knight
United States313 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:11 Eschaton wrote: can you cite some examples of holding a nexus when facing a 1/1/1? I'm zerg and not so aware of the TvP meta, but to quote TT1 when replying earlier to someone else who suggested canceling the nexus was a poor choice, "lol." agreed on the poor engagement, and delay though. 15 Nex and 1gate FE can be held and are considered the best against 1/1/1. A 3 gate FE or 3 gate robo into expand the nexus has to be canceled. | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:10 kheldorin wrote: LoL....why are people surprised that 1/1/1 won the Terran another game. Puma probably realized that Kiwikaki was actually good, stopped screwing around with his food and didn't want to risk anything. since 1/1/1 is a guaranteed win. The only reason why he didn't want to 1/1/1 in the first place is because he's gonna get a lot of hate for it because at least the Korean fans know it is imbalance. Only the foreign fans are clueless and think the fault always lies with Protoss even though there is a mountain of evidence proving otherwise. And exactly from where did you took the idea that anyone thinks that the fault lies with the Protoss? If I read "The 1-1-1 is op because it is easier to execute than to defend" one more time I'll slit my wrists(not because it is wrong, but because of the amount of times this is said, just clarifying). | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:12 Jakkerr wrote: You know... my biggest problem isn't even the build itself. It is this one build destroying an entire matchup, it's supereasy for Terran too execute and has a insanely high winrate, so yeh sure I would use it too. But it completely sucks the fun out of watching, so yeh i'm gonna say it, the current state of PvT is hurting E-sports. There shouldn't be such insanely strong all-ins in an competetive RTS game, not from any race. Well, it took until after the games had ended for me to see my first legit one of these. Well played LR, well played. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:12 seansye wrote: Everyone knows the 1-1-1 is coming.. The fans know it, casters know it, the players know it, God knows it, Blizzard knows it.... EveryONE knows its coming lol. About a month ago, every Code S toss blind countered it in GSL. They still lost to it. Every. Damn. Time. | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:12 snafoo wrote: HuK lost to Ganzi's 1-1-1 last MLG. Sup son? :| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:12 ZAiNs wrote: I don't get why people keep saying this, if MVP thought 1-1-1 had 100% win-rate in TvP then he would do it every time until it got nerfed. Just because MVP made a light-hearted comment about 1-1-1 being OP, it doesn't mean that he won't do the build... I guess the question becomes, when's the last time he did it  | ||
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Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
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krneki
Norway237 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:09 tomatriedes wrote: You really think a terran is going to let you float a warp prism anywhere near his siege tanks? Seriously? you funny. | ||
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provrorsbarn
Sweden766 Posts
Puma has been doing this build in every TvP game at Xel Naga...just remove the map | ||
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what a baller
