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Indonesia4317 Posts
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jyLee
United States350 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:10 Condor Hero wrote: at that point the problem was going to be mass marines since kiwi had no chance of getting any AOE and he had enough scvs to constantly build marines, PLUS MULES. Kiwi had superior production with a starport, 3 gates, and a robo. He would of outproduced Puma by a big margin if he just waited a bit longer. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:10 hysterial wrote: I'm pretty sure 1 gate FE into 3 gates can hold any 2 rax. Then your Robotics is too late and you die to cloak Banshees. The problem isn't really the 2rax or the 1/1/1, it's the inability to have the slightest clue what the Terran is doing until after you've committed to a tech path. | ||
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Kamikazess
Brazil400 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:10 skYfiVe wrote: I don't think he would have expanded then... He was obviously thrown off a bit. He expanded to "force" Puma into the 1-1-1. It was obvious he would cancel it, and add more gateways. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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13JackaL
United States577 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:08 Inflicted_ wrote: IMMVP doesn't condone the usage of 1-1-1 all-in because he sees it as OP too. Is he an idiot? No, he just doesn't want to lose his fanbase. | ||
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Pseudo-
52 Posts
no he didn't, that was a gasless expand | ||
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Templarama
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Yippicaya
32 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:10 Haze.884 wrote: If you go 1 gate FE into 6gate mass zealots, you can easily block 1/1/1... except if they go anything else than 1/1/1 or go cloak banshee u are just f***ed. The 3rd 1 in the 1/1/1 makes banshees.... lol They get marines, tanks, and banshees. Edit: if you go too zealot heavy there's nothing to deal with banshees. | ||
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sashamunguia
Mexico423 Posts
thanks, if u do, I'll love u even more! | ||
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:12 StarStruck wrote: Sorry man, but that's a load of crap. People can keep saying how he practiced with Flash all you want, but to call him the most skilled is absolutely asinine and discrediting a lot of the guys who are actually there including the very man who has the most accolades there. -_- Uhh, I'd say Puma already has the most accolades there, well hes won the most money atleast  | ||
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kheldorin
Singapore539 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:10 TolEranceNA wrote: I won't cry about 2 rax, it is a great build, you never get into a bad position when using it. You just have to deal with it, its part of the life of playing a RTS game. Grow up tosses. You're joking right? So many zergs have held off the 2-rax even when the 2-rax was first discovered Not just Korean zerg, mind you. Just a couple of Protoss have held it off and that was just due to Terran screwing it up. This is at Korean level play. Comparing 1/1/1 to 2-rax is just idiotic. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Galaxy613
United States148 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:10 Azarkon wrote: What Kiwi did wrong was that he did not flank from two sides. I've rarely seen a well executed 1/1/1 defeated except by flanking. You need to split the marines and scvs from the tanks and go in from behind with zealots and/or immortals. This also minimizes tank splash. The weakness of the 1/1/1 all-in is the same weakness that Protoss death balls have - they have to stay together, which makes it possible for you to out-maneuver them and flank, esp. given the siege/unsiege delay. Protoss can learn a few tips from Zergs in this respect. THIS! Less QQ more GG! I was VERY impressed with Kiwi, I can't wait for tomorrow. :D Though sadly, Slasher's hair isn't going anywhere. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:11 Sackings wrote: and how are u supposed to know 1/1/1 is coming? a voidray all in is a blind counter, not a scouted one void rays are strong vs terran but you can avoid by not building at the ramp. even if it is a blind counter, its still shitty game design as we will see more and more protosses try that just to not die to 1-1-1 (genius in gsl). | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:14 Ghostfoot wrote: No, he just doesn't want to lose his fanbase. He has a moronic fanbase if they DONT want him to use the best builds possible. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:12 ffadicted wrote: Doesn't work like that exactly lol Marine numbers increase in effectiveness exponentially, the longer you wait on 1 base, the more impossible it becomes to hold the marine portion without AoE. You need to 1 gate (w/ or without) robo expand, and stall to allow your econ advantage to kick in and hold it with a similar composition kiwi had (zealot immortal sentry heavy), then use stalkers to clean up banshee and whatever is left. its a protoss progamer you're trying to correct o_o | ||
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WindCalibur
Canada938 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:12 hysterial wrote: You cut probes and chrono warp gate, good 20/22 nexus expand man. Exactly. 1 gate expand can hold 2 rax all ins/pressures easily with good micro and execution. You are losing to 2 rax most likely because either you are going 1 zeal 1 stalker sentry 1 gate fe or have been skimping on units for various reasons. | ||
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KonohaFlash
Canada1590 Posts
On August 28 2011 11:13 Rykros wrote: ok dont bring IMMvp to this discussion and mvp did 1 rax expo vs MC and followed it with whatever he wanted , do u know what 1-1-1 is ? its making a barracks factory and starport .... What you're trying to say is a 1 base 1-1-1. | ||
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