On August 28 2011 06:46 Herry wrote: I believe MMA and MVP have much better TvZ than Bomber and Puma. i can see DRG or Coca actually winning.
Coca yes, but i highly doubt DRG can, DRG is figured out completely, after the first MLG, he is hardly ever win against any top talent
Not sure if serious? The only terrans drg has lost to has been mvp and mma and nestea lost to those 2 as well. DRG is 10-0 in gstl. 15-1 in gstl overall.
On August 28 2011 06:40 kabar wrote: don't see nada taking a series from puma. puma got this.
Know this is going to sound stupid but why does everyone think puma's great?
not trying to insult him but other then him winning the NASL i honestly have never heard him mentioned in terms of tourneys.
IEM.
he's pretty overhyped and overrated to be honest. at IEM he just beat a bunch of foreigners and than had a rematch with MC again, who is losing to just about everyone at the moment.
watching him doesn't feel the same as watching immvp
He got beat pretty handily at IEM by Mana btw. Mana should go to Korea, after a while there I'd say he could be Code S.
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote: Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible? ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.
I've barely seen any proper games.
90 times out of 100.
The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.
Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.
You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?
And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?
You realize Huk and everyone thats in Code A is living in Korea right?
So what ? That doesn't make them korean.
Seriously people just stfu already about nationality. It has nothing to do with race. He plays and trains in Korea. Thats why hes so damn good. Huk himself says hes a Korean player so stop acting delusional.
On August 28 2011 06:47 Jeity wrote: If I remember correctly, Hero beat DRG in the final round of the Code A qualifiers a season ago. Grudge match. I hope they stream it.
they have played twice since then resulting in DRG crushing him.
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote: Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible? ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.
I've barely seen any proper games.
90 times out of 100.
The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.
Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.
You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?
And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?
You realize Huk and everyone thats in Code A is living in Korea right?
Huk living in Korea makes him as much a Korean as Rain a foreigner or Puma for living in US for 2 weeks. Plenty of Europeans have team houses in not there home country. Demuslim is living in EG house iirc and that doenst change his nationality either.
being a foreigner in sc2 has nothing to do with nationality
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote: Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible? ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.
I've barely seen any proper games.
90 times out of 100.
The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.
That's mostly because there are so many top Koreans invited and so few EU players. With Mana, Dimaga, Tarson etc. this would look very different.
Somehow I highly doubt that.
If you saw how thoroughly thrashed Thorzain and Naniwa are getting in the GSL right now you'd understand that it isn't just the North American and Korean gap that's huge it's also the Korean/European gap as well.
Not saying it wouldn't be better than having some of the lower tier players in the pools replaced with some European pros, but I don't think it would make much difference in unseating the dominance the Koreans are displaying.
I guess you haven't been watching GSTL if you think Thorzain and Naniwa are getting "thoroughly thrashed"
They just got allkilled and the only match they won was vs MVP without using dongraegu...(their whole team basically)
They also narrowly lost 3-4 to someone, the team doesn't come to mind but it was recent.
On August 28 2011 06:47 Jeity wrote: If I remember correctly, Hero beat DRG in the final round of the Code A qualifiers a season ago. Grudge match. I hope they stream it.
they have played twice since then resulting in DRG crushing him.
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote: Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible? ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.
I've barely seen any proper games.
90 times out of 100.
The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.
Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.
You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?
And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?
You realize Huk and everyone thats in Code A is living in Korea right?
Huk living in Korea makes him as much a Korean as Rain a foreigner or Puma for living in US for 2 weeks. Plenty of Europeans have team houses in not there home country. Demuslim is living in EG house iirc and that doenst change his nationality either.
being a foreigner in sc2 has nothing to do with nationality
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote: Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible? ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.
I've barely seen any proper games.
90 times out of 100.
The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.
That's mostly because there are so many top Koreans invited and so few EU players. With Mana, Dimaga, Tarson etc. this would look very different.
Somehow I highly doubt that.
If you saw how thoroughly thrashed Thorzain and Naniwa are getting in the GSL right now you'd understand that it isn't just the North American and Korean gap that's huge it's also the Korean/European gap as well.
Not saying it wouldn't be better than having some of the lower tier players in the pools replaced with some European pros, but I don't think it would make much difference in unseating the dominance the Koreans are displaying.
I guess you haven't been watching GSTL if you think Thorzain and Naniwa are getting "thoroughly thrashed"
They just got allkilled and the only match they won was vs MVP without using dongraegu...(their whole team basically)
They also narrowly lost 3-4 to someone, the team doesn't come to mind but it was recent.
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote: Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible? ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.
I've barely seen any proper games.
90 times out of 100.
The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.
Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.
You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?
And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?
You realize Huk and everyone thats in Code A is living in Korea right?
"The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material"
Doesn't matter where they are.
You dont get it do you. Huk is in Korea so he technically doesnt count as a foreigner since he doesnt live outside Korean and plays on the Korean server. GTFO
This is the most ridiculous crock of shit ever. Gsl is the biggest tournament so the best players try there even if they are foreign so therefore they all become korean....
Puma american then since he has spent so much time here lately.
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