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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
August 27 2011 21:48 GMT
#5681
On August 28 2011 06:46 icarly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:43 Zane wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:42 karis wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:40 kabar wrote:
don't see nada taking a series from puma. puma got this.


Know this is going to sound stupid but why does everyone think puma's great?

not trying to insult him but other then him winning the NASL i honestly have never heard him mentioned in terms of tourneys.

IEM.


he's pretty overhyped and overrated to be honest. at IEM he just beat a bunch of foreigners and than had a rematch with MC again, who is losing to just about everyone at the moment.

watching him doesn't feel the same as watching immvp

dude, he owned up the everyone to get into the NASL finals, owned again, won against MC. Owned once again at IEM, walked out the Airport in the US with 1st place cheque in his hand. Now running through open bracket like nothing, 2-0 at the moment. It is NOT a SUPRISE if he also wins this MLG. He has MLG's curse on his side too.
Teoyaomqui
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden326 Posts
August 27 2011 21:48 GMT
#5682
On August 28 2011 06:41 aresendez88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:37 Choboo wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.

That's mostly because there are so many top Koreans invited and so few EU players. With Mana, Dimaga, Tarson etc. this would look very different.


Somehow I highly doubt that.

If you saw how thoroughly thrashed Thorzain and Naniwa are getting in the GSL right now you'd understand that it isn't just the North American and Korean gap that's huge it's also the Korean/European gap as well.

Not saying it wouldn't be better than having some of the lower tier players in the pools replaced with some European pros, but I don't think it would make much difference in unseating the dominance the Koreans are displaying.

Yeah, doesn't matter if all of the foreigner's scene's best were present. Koreans would still roflstomp. That's just how it is unfortunately, the skill difference is immense, but we could always hope that one day it will change!
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5683
On August 28 2011 06:47 Bowzer wrote:
Giving them free slots into pool play seems a bit lame don't you think?

In Korea all foreigners have to earn their spot, but in mlg they get it handed to them.

I think you are forgetting about Code A spots for Nani/SaSe/ThorZaiN.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5684
On August 28 2011 06:47 Bowzer wrote:
Giving them free slots into pool play seems a bit lame don't you think?

In Korea all foreigners have to earn their spot, but in mlg they get it handed to them.


Code B is actually 10x as grueling as the open bracket of the MLG is, and a bunch of foreigners got free spots in the Code A tournament only to be eliminated in the first round.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5685
On August 28 2011 06:47 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:44 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.


You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?

And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?


You realize Huk and everyone thats in Code A is living in Korea right?


Huk living in Korea makes him as much a Korean as Rain a foreigner or Puma for living in US for 2 weeks. Plenty of Europeans have team houses in not there home country. Demuslim is living in EG house iirc and that doenst change his nationality either.


Huk didnt try to qualify for WSG Korea because he isnt Korean. He went for WSG US because he has duel citizenship (US and Canada) not Canada and Korea.
Teael
Profile Joined February 2011
United States724 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5686
On August 28 2011 06:48 minhbq299 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:46 Herry wrote:
I believe MMA and MVP have much better TvZ than Bomber and Puma. i can see DRG or Coca actually winning.


Coca yes, but i highly doubt DRG can, DRG is figured out completely, after the first MLG, he is hardly ever win against any top talent


Do you watch GSTL?

Cause he just allkilled prime last week...
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5687
On August 28 2011 06:48 minhbq299 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:46 Herry wrote:
I believe MMA and MVP have much better TvZ than Bomber and Puma. i can see DRG or Coca actually winning.


Coca yes, but i highly doubt DRG can, DRG is figured out completely, after the first MLG, he is hardly ever win against any top talent


what about the all kill on prime recently? didnt he beat mkp and polt?
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
maliceee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States634 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5688
On August 28 2011 06:48 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:44 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.


You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?

And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?


You realize Huk and everyone thats in Code A is living in Korea right?

So what ? That doesn't make them korean.


exactly...was idra not a foreigner in BW? cmon now
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5689
On August 28 2011 06:47 Bowzer wrote:
Giving them free slots into pool play seems a bit lame don't you think?

In Korea all foreigners have to earn their spot, but in mlg they get it handed to them.


Lol are you trolling?
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5690
If they don't stream naniwa vs coca i will be very sad
"See you space cowboy"
rdj107
Profile Joined December 2010
United States336 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5691
On August 28 2011 06:47 Pyskee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:43 skrzmark wrote:
I feel like Tastosis seem better at casting in the GSL compared to MLG. Maybe they can't say there side banter as much due to having the live audience?

I've noticed that too; definitely less funny banter. Even so, I'd watch them over anyone else by far.

Think part of it is tasteless isn't used to obsing at the same time time as casting anymore, so he's kinda distracted and artosis can't bounce a lot of banter off him.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5692
On August 28 2011 06:46 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:45 skrzmark wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.


You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?

And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?


and how many foreigners even made it to the updown matches since huk's run? none.

and? Did every foreigner retire? Are they not going to be able to compete for code A again?

They will be able to compete in Code A...if they get invited.
Radook
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden326 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5693
On August 28 2011 06:47 Scrandom wrote:
Let's see if PuMa can secure an "EG" win in this tourney.

And by EG I mean Puma doing everything himself, just sporting the jersey


Isnt that what every player does in a 1vs1 game? :p
Woop Woop!
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5694
On August 28 2011 06:48 minhbq299 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:46 Herry wrote:
I believe MMA and MVP have much better TvZ than Bomber and Puma. i can see DRG or Coca actually winning.


Coca yes, but i highly doubt DRG can, DRG is figured out completely, after the first MLG, he is hardly ever win against any top talent


a month or so ago i would've totally replied to a post such as this. But nowadays it barely even bothers me :D good times
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5695
On August 28 2011 06:48 minhbq299 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:46 Herry wrote:
I believe MMA and MVP have much better TvZ than Bomber and Puma. i can see DRG or Coca actually winning.


Coca yes, but i highly doubt DRG can, DRG is figured out completely, after the first MLG, he is hardly ever win against any top talent


you cant 'figure out' DRG. he plays the most standard zvt possible, he just executes it at a level much higher than almost any other zerg you could care to name.
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
August 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#5696
On August 28 2011 06:47 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:45 KnightGrinder wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:41 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:37 Choboo wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.

That's mostly because there are so many top Koreans invited and so few EU players. With Mana, Dimaga, Tarson etc. this would look very different.


Somehow I highly doubt that.

If you saw how thoroughly thrashed Thorzain and Naniwa are getting in the GSL right now you'd understand that it isn't just the North American and Korean gap that's huge it's also the Korean/European gap as well.

Not saying it wouldn't be better than having some of the lower tier players in the pools replaced with some European pros, but I don't think it would make much difference in unseating the dominance the Koreans are displaying.


I guess you haven't been watching GSTL if you think Thorzain and Naniwa are getting "thoroughly thrashed"

They just got allkilled and the only match they won was vs MVP without using dongraegu...(their whole team basically)


Naniwa wasn't present against Prime and Thorzain seemed a bit out of it. He had a great showing against TSL last week.
jungsu
Profile Joined February 2010
United States279 Posts
August 27 2011 21:50 GMT
#5697
On August 28 2011 06:44 Phats wrote:
Why don't they have an observer in each of the pool games and just switch between games on the main casting stages like Rotti and that do during ESL games... they even flick between games as exciting stuff is going down...

If MLG wants gold memberships maybe have more games showing rather then a stream just teasing the shit out of us by having a camera 10 metres away from the players monitors showing us some obscure view and trying to guess who wins via body language of the players after a score screen appears lol.


Yep anyone who had access to install streaming software on their computers could do a better job of covering these games than MLG. Even just following one player's actions would be vastly better.
go nony
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
August 27 2011 21:50 GMT
#5698
On August 28 2011 06:45 kilergrunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.

What about Huk in code S and all the Europeans in code A?


The Europeans in Code A got charity spots (via MLG or otherwise), they didn't qualify through the standard channels.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 27 2011 21:50 GMT
#5699
On August 28 2011 06:47 mprs wrote:
You know what would be great? A game :S

WTB

+ Show Spoiler +
we're spoiled


yes we are
sharktopus.
Profile Joined April 2011
United States456 Posts
August 27 2011 21:50 GMT
#5700
On August 28 2011 06:48 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:47 sharktopus. wrote:
Does anyone happen to know if HerO will have another match on either stream again today??


I'm wondering this too, but no one seems to know. I guess there's no stream schedule on who player is playing who on stream.


Yeah I know, I guess it's too hard to make a schedule past day 1
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