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Obligatory public note for all large tournament threads:
The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:
1. Whining about stream 2. Bashing other games 3. Flaming other users 4. Bashing players 5. Complaining about imbalance.
It is in no way complete. Keep in mind that there's a difference between pointing out that the SC2 and CoD streams were switched and whining about it (same thing on pointing out/asking about stream lag and whining about it, etc.). Also, just because you post something and aren't immediately banned for it doesn't mean you won't get caught. We'll be going through this thread very carefully.
That being said, enjoy today's games!
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On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote: I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid. You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't. It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not. Don't listen to that guy. There's no reason for you to be up at 2k minerals on 3 bases, when you're not even maxed.. Either he fogot injects, or should've made a macro hatch for extra production.
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day9tv Sean Plott So apparently TLO was watching Idra vs Bomber from the crowd and missed his first match. Starting off 0-2... WOOPS!
wow...seriously? :/
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On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote: I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid.
the 2k would be spent over extra hatches, and queens, so there would be less available for lings, also his minerals shoot up in a relatively small timing window so during which he might not even have enough larvae to spend extra resources (and other hatches are still building)
also he lost a couple queens
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Yeah much more interesting discussion should be: Will we see Machine going 0-5 again???
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On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote: I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid. You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't. It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not. It does matter please stop posting when you clearly dont understand other race mechanics its painful to read...for the people who understand
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On August 27 2011 07:16 mTw|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 07:14 Chillax wrote: They DQed someone who was supposed to be appearing on the main stream? rofl. They DQ'ed White-rA from the open bracket for being late 2 minutes... so yes, ofcourse they did.
..2 minutes? wasn't it like 10-15 minutes EASILY..?
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On August 27 2011 07:16 Fatalize wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote: I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid. You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't. It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not. Terran spends 2k on marines cause they can build tanks / medivacs / scv at the same time. You cant as Z. 2k worth of lings is 40 larvae.
make a hatchery and an additional queen
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On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote: I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid. You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't. It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not.
It does though. Trust me.
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On August 27 2011 07:15 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote: I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid. You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't. It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not. Find a replay of a zerg on 4 bases past 16 minutes with under 1500 minerals
Several of Nestea games. He doesn't float except for that enabling structure that comes up.
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Idra has been on a constant skill decline since leaving Korea. He needs to go back badly.
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On August 27 2011 07:14 icarly wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 07:09 Medrea wrote:On August 27 2011 07:07 icarly wrote:On August 27 2011 07:04 fraktoasters wrote:On August 27 2011 07:03 Moralez wrote:On August 27 2011 07:02 Jono7272 wrote: Floating near 2k mins.. Nice macro IdrA.. I love these low lvl players, you have no clue minerals mean nothing after zerg has 3 bases its the gas that counts. 2k minerals means a lot of potential zerglings zerglings are literally worthless vs marine tank. gas is what counts. But that coulda been 80 zerglings. You cant say 80 zerglings doesnt help. hitting every inject and having a macro hatch wouldn't even have let him make 80 more zerglings...
Yeah ling/bling/muta is pretty damn larvae intensive. Obviously there are things he could have done better (as IdrA always has way too many minerals banking up around this point in the game) such as not losing queens and making more hatches, but people are oversimplifying it quite a bit.
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TLO the fuck dude!?
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On August 27 2011 07:16 Broodwurst wrote: day9tv Sean Plott So apparently TLO was watching Idra vs Bomber from the crowd and missed his first match. Starting off 0-2... WOOPS!
wow...seriously? :/ That is just 100% fail. No excuse.
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On August 27 2011 07:14 Grettin wrote: SjoW wins 2-0 over EG-Machine in Pool B
Awesome, SjoW fighting!
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On August 27 2011 07:15 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote: I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid. You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't. It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not. Find a replay of a zerg on 4 bases past 16 minutes with under 1500 minerals
If teran has a constant production and keeps his money down it means z has to do the same. Those 2k are not EXTRA, are 2k that terran spends on units. If you battle with less army resources wise than there is somethig wrong.
Teran and zerg both have the same resources available so they should be able to spend them.
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Red stream is muted anyone? uh oh. Bad start 0.0
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On August 27 2011 07:15 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote: I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid. You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't. It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not. Yeah..having experience playing a race doesn't matter at all?
The point is that zerg floats minerals extremely easily, since zerglings are cheap, but larva inefficient in relation to supply. All of the actually important units cost gas, while lings are just fodder. For terran, the best units are mineral intensive. Of course 2k minerals would have helped, especially since Idra was not maxed. He prolly shoulda macro hatched, and he was a bit too greedy/ counter failed.
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On August 27 2011 07:17 butchji wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 07:16 Fatalize wrote:On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote: I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid. You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't. It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not. Terran spends 2k on marines cause they can build tanks / medivacs / scv at the same time. You cant as Z. 2k worth of lings is 40 larvae. make a hatchery and an additional queen
No man. Just sit there and lose. Mining minerals is fun, don't bother making the proper accomodations to spend it.
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