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4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance.

It is in no way complete. Keep in mind that there's a difference between pointing out that the SC2 and CoD streams were switched and whining about it (same thing on pointing out/asking about stream lag and whining about it, etc.). Also, just because you post something and aren't immediately banned for it doesn't mean you won't get caught. We'll be going through this thread very carefully.

That being said, enjoy today's games!

Time stamp: page 38, 6:23.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 26 2011 22:16 GMT
#3041
On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid.


You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't.


It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not.

Don't listen to that guy. There's no reason for you to be up at 2k minerals on 3 bases, when you're not even maxed.. Either he fogot injects, or should've made a macro hatch for extra production.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
August 26 2011 22:16 GMT
#3042
day9tv Sean Plott
So apparently TLO was watching Idra vs Bomber from the crowd and missed his first match. Starting off 0-2... WOOPS!



wow...seriously? :/
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 22:17:10
August 26 2011 22:16 GMT
#3043
On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid.


the 2k would be spent over extra hatches, and queens, so there would be less available for lings, also his minerals shoot up in a relatively small timing window so during which he might not even have enough larvae to spend extra resources (and other hatches are still building)

also he lost a couple queens
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
August 26 2011 22:16 GMT
#3044
Yeah much more interesting discussion should be: Will we see Machine going 0-5 again???
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
August 26 2011 22:16 GMT
#3045
On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid.


You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't.


It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not.

It does matter please stop posting when you clearly dont understand other race mechanics its painful to read...for the people who understand
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3046
On August 27 2011 07:14 Coolhwip wrote:
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On August 27 2011 07:12 Horse...falcon wrote:
Yikes Demuslim, Jinro, KawaiiRice, Gretorp, and HwangSin are in the same bracket.


Who is hwangSing? is it liquid hero?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HwangSin
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3047
On August 27 2011 07:16 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 07:14 Chillax wrote:
They DQed someone who was supposed to be appearing on the main stream? rofl.


They DQ'ed White-rA from the open bracket for being late 2 minutes... so yes, ofcourse they did.


..2 minutes? wasn't it like 10-15 minutes EASILY..?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3048
On August 27 2011 07:16 Fatalize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid.


You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't.


It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not.



Terran spends 2k on marines cause they can build tanks / medivacs / scv at the same time.

You cant as Z. 2k worth of lings is 40 larvae.


make a hatchery and an additional queen
Throat
Profile Joined November 2010
United States156 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3049
On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid.


You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't.


It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not.


It does though. Trust me.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3050
On August 27 2011 07:15 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid.


You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't.


It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not.


Find a replay of a zerg on 4 bases past 16 minutes with under 1500 minerals



Several of Nestea games. He doesn't float except for that enabling structure that comes up.
twitch.tv/medrea
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3051
Idra has been on a constant skill decline since leaving Korea. He needs to go back badly.
Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3052
On August 27 2011 07:14 icarly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 07:09 Medrea wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:07 icarly wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:04 fraktoasters wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:03 Moralez wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:02 Jono7272 wrote:
Floating near 2k mins.. Nice macro IdrA..

I love these low lvl players, you have no clue minerals mean nothing after zerg has 3 bases its the gas that counts.


2k minerals means a lot of potential zerglings


zerglings are literally worthless vs marine tank. gas is what counts.


But that coulda been 80 zerglings. You cant say 80 zerglings doesnt help.


hitting every inject and having a macro hatch wouldn't even have let him make 80 more zerglings...


Yeah ling/bling/muta is pretty damn larvae intensive. Obviously there are things he could have done better (as IdrA always has way too many minerals banking up around this point in the game) such as not losing queens and making more hatches, but people are oversimplifying it quite a bit.
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3053
TLO the fuck dude!?
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3054
On August 27 2011 07:16 Broodwurst wrote:
day9tv Sean Plott
So apparently TLO was watching Idra vs Bomber from the crowd and missed his first match. Starting off 0-2... WOOPS!



wow...seriously? :/
That is just 100% fail. No excuse.
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3055
On August 27 2011 07:14 Grettin wrote:
SjoW wins 2-0 over EG-Machine in Pool B


Awesome, SjoW fighting!
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3056
On August 27 2011 07:15 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid.


You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't.


It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not.


Find a replay of a zerg on 4 bases past 16 minutes with under 1500 minerals



If teran has a constant production and keeps his money down it means z has to do the same. Those 2k are not EXTRA, are 2k that terran spends on units. If you battle with less army resources wise than there is somethig wrong.

Teran and zerg both have the same resources available so they should be able to spend them.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3057
Red stream is muted anyone? uh oh. Bad start 0.0
Intel Dual Core 4400 @ ~2.00GHz / 2046MB RAM / 256 MB ATI Radeon x1300PRO
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3058
On August 27 2011 07:15 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid.


You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't.


It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not.

Yeah..having experience playing a race doesn't matter at all?


The point is that zerg floats minerals extremely easily, since zerglings are cheap, but larva inefficient in relation to supply. All of the actually important units cost gas, while lings are just fodder. For terran, the best units are mineral intensive. Of course 2k minerals would have helped, especially since Idra was not maxed. He prolly shoulda macro hatched, and he was a bit too greedy/ counter failed.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3059
On August 27 2011 07:17 butchji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 07:16 Fatalize wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:15 ceaRshaf wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:14 Throat wrote:
On August 27 2011 07:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
I just can;t understand how can you say that 2k doesn't make a difference for zerg. Terran spends that 2k to make marines. So that means that zerg plays with a 2k handicap for nothing. That shounds stupid.


You would understand if you played Zerg, but you obviously don't.


It has to sound logic. It doesn't matter if i play z or not.



Terran spends 2k on marines cause they can build tanks / medivacs / scv at the same time.

You cant as Z. 2k worth of lings is 40 larvae.


make a hatchery and an additional queen


No man. Just sit there and lose. Mining minerals is fun, don't bother making the proper accomodations to spend it.
twitch.tv/medrea
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
August 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#3060
Cmon Huk !
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