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On August 22 2011 01:22 chatuka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 01:19 TheSilverfox wrote:On August 22 2011 01:18 lolsixtynine wrote:
Since when did $6500 for a Starcraft match become "not that big"? At the same time as five Ukrainians won $200 000 each. that's pretty awesome. E-sports will lean towards team-oriented games, just like in outdoor sports. But I think LoL or Dota are not the right games to unite everybody. SC2 could have like 8 player matchups with huge maps. that would be pretty awesome..
You know tennis and golf is really big right?
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On August 22 2011 01:21 HaRuHi wrote:
Lol, TLO in first row ignoring the Lol ceremony like a boss xd.
Yes it's really cool to be disrespectful to other gamers playing other games than yourself...
Jesus christ wtf is going on in this thread? I'd be severely disappointed if less than 100 bans is handed out
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On August 22 2011 01:16 TheImmortal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 01:13 Asha` wrote:On August 22 2011 01:11 Rustug wrote:
I have a question, I keep hearing that LoL is breaking all the records from the Mobaa crowd, but has LoL ever been featured in a tournament. I get the idea that they have been piggy-backing, gathering views of other game fans that are waiting for their game to start.
In other words, would LoL be able to feature in their own tournament and get the numbers they have been claiming?
Just asking as I'm curious and not a Mobaa player/spectator. LoL got the highest viewers at Dreamhack and had the second highest viewers this weekend (I presume Dota had the highest). not saying bad about anyone here, but people here should start to realize that starcraft ain't everything. i love this game, but honestly, league of legends has a much bigger following crowd than starcraft as starcraft is good for the core players, but league of legends is also good for the casual crowd and everyone knows the casual crowd will ultimate lead as seen in the wii, 360, ps3 fight. hoenstly, whatever it is, games are still a business, and the business thriving most will be the ultimate winner. let's not forget that.
coming from the SEA region, every 100 people I knew that plays DotA only 5 plays SC2 and 4 is playing campaign only. LOL. could be little exaggerated but it is how popular games like DotA is around the region. The competitive scene and prize pool involved are also significant larger than the almost non-existence SC2 scene purely down to these games attracts a lot more people. Skill-cap of a game doesn't seems to matter much here.
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On August 22 2011 01:21 koolaid1990 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 01:20 Caphe wrote:
Fuk this shit. I am too tired of SC2 vs LoL in every event these 2 games have together. People, plz have some sense, they are all e-sports. I would love LoL get 10 millions viewers and SC2 die if that is what it take for E-sport to be a mainstream sport. wow saying this in a starcraft forum takes alot of guts bro...
Might not be the best way to express his argument but I understand his sentiment
A wild grubby appears!
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On August 22 2011 01:20 Caphe wrote:
Fuk this shit. I am too tired of SC2 vs LoL in every event these 2 games have together. People, plz have some sense, they are all e-sports. I would love LoL get 10 millions viewers and SC2 die if that is what it take for E-sport to be a mainstream sport.
Except every game is a different sport. I love rugby, despise football and i care a little about tennis. For E-sports, it is the same thing, I love starcraft, like fighting games and fucking hate LoL, just because it takes screen time from my beloved MC.
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Why dont they have one winners ceremony for ALL players/games at the end of the tournament? Would help keeping the schedule on time.
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On August 22 2011 01:22 chatuka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 01:19 TheSilverfox wrote:On August 22 2011 01:18 lolsixtynine wrote:
Since when did $6500 for a Starcraft match become "not that big"? At the same time as five Ukrainians won $200 000 each. that's pretty awesome. E-sports will lean towards team-oriented games, just like in outdoor sports. But I think LoL or Dota are not the right games to unite everybody. SC2 could have like 8 player matchups with huge maps. that would be pretty awesome..
Surely you know how terrible team games are in SC2 :p
And not everyone sport/e-sport is better as a team game
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On August 22 2011 01:22 MarineOnStimPack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 01:21 Samiz wrote:
Scumbag League of Legends:
Seeps stream into SC2 Finals time,
Has a really high stream count. actually somehow LOL has bigger numbers than sc2 ^^ last time they hit 200k :O
if that's true. that would say alot about the popularity of team e-sports than 1 v 1 competitions.
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On August 22 2011 01:22 10or10 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 01:18 Srule wrote:
Wait, isnt the host the guy that rolls SC2 players? he can actually speak English pretty good... It was far funnier when i thought he just had broken english. Yeah, it's Carmac (or the troll character Uszat), I thought the funny part was how Machine didn't know Carmac and not that the interview spoke bad english?
Machine? You mean IdrA right?
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did the lion just say
look at him go
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On August 22 2011 01:23 AppianWay wrote:
Dota2 had 2.5million viewers at one stage on the first stage. 50,000 is nothing.
That's because it was the unveiling of the game. Aside from the leaked screenshots, no one had ever seen DOTA2 before and they were anxious to check it out.
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On August 22 2011 01:21 MuTa07 wrote:
For all those ppl saying things like "so much hate on LoL in this thread". This thread is the STARCRAFT 2 thread not LoL..
p.s. fuck LoL
No shit? it's a Starcraft Forum too, with standards. And one of the best things about TeamLiquid is you don't have to fight your way through a ton of garbage to get to the information your looking for, except for Live Report threads when people turn them into a giant steaming pile of shit by posting exactly what the mods asked you to PLEASE not post on the top of the thread.
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On August 22 2011 01:21 mortalisx wrote:
I'm sure LoL is actually interesting to watch if you play the game and can appreciate the smaller details that a non-player would miss. The same can really be said about starcraft, the vast majority of viewers will be players themselves and I doubt there are a significant number of people who watch sc2 matches without playing the game themselves.
LoL has a huge playerbase so there are a lot of people tuning into the matches. Don't dismiss it simply because it isn't as spectator friendly as sc2 as moba is quite possibly the second best games format for spectating. I don't even play the game but I can see it being more interesting than say CS for a viewer.
I got a friend interested in GSL and he never played starcraft before. Now hes a convert (: I have no idea if LoL is a good game or not, but its certaintly not designed to be a spectator sport.
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On August 22 2011 01:18 theBALLS wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 01:17 taLbuk wrote:On August 22 2011 01:14 Ashworth wrote:
am I getting the numbers messed up? For Lol there was 120k viewers, and now 110k have left? For the finals of LoL there was 120k Currently on Own3d.tv , there are 55k watching LoL ceremonies and 15k people on the SC2 stream but the sc2 stream is showing the same stage. We'll see how many will watch Sc2 once it starts, I have a feeling a decent amount seeing as a ton of LoL players watch sc2 as well. Well if SC2 was free-of-charge, and you had to pay $70 for LOL, the opposite would happen as well.
let's be honest with ourselves, sc2 wouldn't be HUGE as in being installed in a lot of computers and being played actively even if it was free. it just isn't casual friendly. it's way too hard core for most people and that doesn't pull in people at all. LoL just has a game better for business.
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