[GSTL] Venus Group Week 7 - Page 68
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Giriath
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Probe1
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Poll: Recommend game 5 ? No (21) Yes (11) If you have time (2) 34 total votes Your vote: Recommend game 5 ? | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
THat jacket is actually fucking awesome.. | ||
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Pwere
Canada1557 Posts
Life is hell for Toss, but give credit where credit is due. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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Deshkar
Singapore1244 Posts
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:21 JKira wrote: Phoenix opening just lost to a factory opening. The world will end now right? I thought somebody said that can't happen...I'm really puzzled now. | ||
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Chise
Japan507 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:23 JKira wrote: I'm just referencing Jinro saying Phoenix is auto-win vs any factory build. You know this was mostly Barracks units, don't you? | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
wait Wolf got the jacket? | ||
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SxYSpAz
United States1451 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:15 Liquid`Jinro wrote: You actually think you have room to scan in a build where you cut scvs at 23 and is made to rape fast expands t.t? Like, its an allin, its not a safe build where you dont take risks... You are not gonna scout phoenix openings. Phoenix openings are such a tiny subset of P openings, so Im not even making a balance statement here, Im just saying they are very good at stopping 1/1/1, which they are because you get a free banshee almost all the time and negate pdd completely. Well, the protoss is forced to go robo, forced to make an observer, then has to switch to stargate. You wont scout anything early, so you also need to prepare for 2 rax pressure, you cant just skip on units. And if the protoss does not go robo, then you might just auto lose, the terran has all the gears necessary to go cloak. If the protoss stays on one base, I think it is actually harder... The protoss has to make more probes also to be even with the terran (albeit, orbital making isnt free either). What I'm trying to say is, that P out of habit needs to do spend a lot of stuff on extraneous things. I feel that one well timed scan can be used (especially with the raven version..). Id say one scan to nullify the phoenixes totally (by going vikings instead of banshees) on the right timing should be fine? Especially since its, as far as I can see, the only "counter".. Of course, this would imply that you can scan it, and that brings a problem. Hm.. I think T should still win if they lose one banshee (it should arrive at the point where it does damage, i dont think the reactive phoenix is there the moment it arrives).. gives time to make 2/3 vikings instead of banshees prior to the push. | ||
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RykuX
1200 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:22 GreyKnight wrote: im actually surprised that thebest did a really interesting mind game. I think puzzle expected a different all-in and he definitely didn't handle it the best way possible either but great job by thebest! :D even though it was an all-in | ||
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nugget-92
Australia83 Posts
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ticktack
United Arab Emirates874 Posts
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BuddhaMonk
781 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:23 MagmaRam wrote: Thebest did pretty well there, even after Puzzle killed the tanks he did very well with just marines. Yeah, he totally 1a'd his marines well there. | ||
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