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KuBa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Poland98 Posts
August 11 2011 07:43 GMT
#2761
Hell, in the first game Yoda gets outclassed and rolled by Tassadar in somehow a macro game, then Tassadar gets defeated twice by the 111 timing on 1 base. It's insane... -__-
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tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 11 2011 07:43 GMT
#2762
On August 11 2011 16:41 taLbuk wrote:
Just as Zergs cried over stupid protoss builds, they eventually learned to deal with them, the same will happen with Protoss, so stop filling LR threads with bullshit balance complaints.

bullshit, without infestor buff, Zerg can't never beat that!!!
lol
Obaten
Profile Joined December 2010
United States730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 07:43:56
August 11 2011 07:43 GMT
#2763
On August 11 2011 16:41 MayorITC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 16:37 Obaten wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:36 snafoo wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:33 quiet noise wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:29 MayorITC wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:27 quiet noise wrote:
whats wrong with yoda? when you have a starport with a reactor and see a early phoenix, you get cloak. god, tassadar is getting a free win.

even i could make better decisions


And this is why you're in gold league. Tassadar had CONSTANT vision of Yoda's base with the Phoenixes. If he sees the tech lab researching cloak, he would throw down a robo.


1. im not in gold leauge
2. forcing a robo+observer makes it worth it imo, means protoss has less units to defend the push



he had one banshee because he started making viking/medivac, yoda getting cloak also means he gets less units too....... cloak would of been a bad choice...


He can also start researching cloak and cancel it, forcing the robo and obs, but making no difference to his cost.


That works in TvT when Terran scans ONCE. But when Phoenixes are flying by your base every 10 seconds, the Protoss player will also cancel his robo if he sees cloak canceled. And yes, pros will notice that kind of stuff.

In fact I'm positive that Tassadar kept scouting for 2 reasons: to check for an expo and to see if cloak was being researched.


I think cloak research time is longer than robo build time? He can still force it and scout toss with scans, once robo is done, cancel cloak.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4886 Posts
August 11 2011 07:43 GMT
#2764
I just hope this is figured out soon.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Dominico
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada678 Posts
August 11 2011 07:43 GMT
#2765
such chill music
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
August 11 2011 07:43 GMT
#2766
On August 11 2011 16:41 mR.bONG789 wrote:
tassadar doesnt even seem sad, he was smiling just then

He knew any toss would have lost to this ridiculous build, taking 1 game off a terran is good enough :p
Truefire
Profile Joined August 2010
United States226 Posts
August 11 2011 07:43 GMT
#2767
On August 11 2011 16:43 ShootingStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 16:42 oriox wrote:
thank god that cheesy no skill tassadar is out. i doubt he makes it to code a again.

No kidding, did 4 gate every game against puzzle who was trying to play a fullup macro game

Oh man, that guy doing 4 gate in PvP, what a cheeser.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 11 2011 07:43 GMT
#2768
On August 11 2011 16:42 NExt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 16:40 youngminii wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:40 NExt wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:38 Toadvine wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:37 NExt wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:36 Razyel wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:34 stuchiu wrote:
I don't understand why these toss keep falling for this, Artosis solved this build 2-3months ago.

I'm so sick of guys like you, saying that is solved but you dont tell how.


one base colossus pretty much.

You kill the ground army (maybe) and then lose to Banshees.


yay lets argue over a hypothical game. i'll say stalkers, you say, tanks, i say immortals, you say marines, i say colossus, you say banshee.. yaaaaaaaaaaay.

please. one base colossus is ur BEST shot. obviously you'll have to do some targetting......

...

stop spreading misinformation please


lol how is it misinformation? I dont know how all of a sudden 111 has infected TL . Its not new. how is it misinformation?

i don't know why you think you (or even artosis for that matter) are better than code s players

in short, you're not, stop spreading this one base colossus filth, you're just going to confuse innocent people who actually listen to you
lalala
VictorX
Profile Joined April 2011
United States773 Posts
August 11 2011 07:43 GMT
#2769
On August 11 2011 16:38 DrNK.Zeal wrote:
Anyone else get annoyed by how condescending wolf can be towards the players...??? Not even b/c i think he's factually wrong, but b/c he's not on their level at all... yea I know he's a pro - but he's a joke compared to these guys so for him to flat out say what Tass is doing is the 'worst possible thing to do' feels pretty bm/bad/dumb/silly

at least cast it like 'this might be bad for tass!!!!'


But that was the worst thing you can do

1/1/1 tank/marine/viking stomps all over gateway army + voidray

It's so one-sided that expanding ontop of that leaves you vulnerable to a counterattack. Voidrays cost 250/150 each, and if you don't do significant damage with them, they are a liability in your army.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
August 11 2011 07:43 GMT
#2770
On August 11 2011 16:41 bittman wrote:
Yeeeeah. I'm sorry, I don't care how much theory-crafting goes on here, but TvP is BS. I see that the 1-1-1 can be held, but the skill in holding is far higher than the skill of executing.

In my opinion, this is the definition of imbalance.


Same exact thing was said for the original 5 gate +1 and the 6 gate +2 in ZvP, Zerg cried Imba, 3 months later they learned to deal with it, Protoss players should be trying to learn to deal with it instead of looking just like the zerg QQ'ers 2 months ago.
stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
August 11 2011 07:44 GMT
#2771
Just tuned in to see DRG lost. Can somebody give me a summary of all matches.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 11 2011 07:44 GMT
#2772
Yesterday I was talking how P should blind 3 gate void to counter this TT. It was a 2 gates here, right ? But still.
The best way is what he did in game 2 imo.
Turquoise
Profile Joined August 2011
Turkey145 Posts
August 11 2011 07:44 GMT
#2773
Time to leave before the 1/1/1 drama.
Here's looking at you, kid.
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
August 11 2011 07:44 GMT
#2774
On August 11 2011 16:42 Serpico wrote:
Protoss all ins with voids. fine
terran punishes them. imba.


"Punishes." They were both doing an allin just the Terran allin hits slower.
KaZzZz
Profile Joined November 2010
France42 Posts
August 11 2011 07:44 GMT
#2775
I'm getting really sick of watching SCII.
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
August 11 2011 07:44 GMT
#2776
On August 11 2011 16:42 simbot wrote:
these tears are amazing


I know right?? So much for no balance whine in LR's lol.


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Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
August 11 2011 07:44 GMT
#2777
On August 11 2011 16:42 Dante08 wrote:
Protoss tears so so juicy, feast on them my terran brethren!


Enjoy it while it lasts. the nerf is coming. enjoy the ladder points until Blizzard makes you play a non BS build v P.

seriously, He did everything you are supposed to do to deal with that 111 all-in. I guess he should have pulled probes.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
August 11 2011 07:44 GMT
#2778
On August 11 2011 16:42 NExt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 16:40 youngminii wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:40 NExt wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:38 Toadvine wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:37 NExt wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:36 Razyel wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:34 stuchiu wrote:
I don't understand why these toss keep falling for this, Artosis solved this build 2-3months ago.

I'm so sick of guys like you, saying that is solved but you dont tell how.


one base colossus pretty much.

You kill the ground army (maybe) and then lose to Banshees.


yay lets argue over a hypothical game. i'll say stalkers, you say, tanks, i say immortals, you say marines, i say colossus, you say banshee.. yaaaaaaaaaaay.

please. one base colossus is ur BEST shot. obviously you'll have to do some targetting......

...

stop spreading misinformation please


lol how is it misinformation? I dont know how all of a sudden 111 has infected TL . Its not new. how is it misinformation?


If you 1 base Colossus, you won't have enough gas for anti-air. Not to mention Colossi without range being quite easy to focus with Banshees and Tanks.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 11 2011 07:44 GMT
#2779
On August 11 2011 16:43 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 16:41 taLbuk wrote:
Just as Zergs cried over stupid protoss builds, they eventually learned to deal with them, the same will happen with Protoss, so stop filling LR threads with bullshit balance complaints.

bullshit, without infestor buff, Zerg can't never beat that!!!
lol

this is true

i fucking hate it when people pull out the "zerg figured out how to deal with x"

THEY DIDN'T
THEY GOT BUFFED
jesus christ there's a difference
lalala
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
August 11 2011 07:44 GMT
#2780
On August 11 2011 16:42 eScaper-tsunami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 16:40 NExt wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:38 Toadvine wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:37 NExt wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:36 Razyel wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:34 stuchiu wrote:
I don't understand why these toss keep falling for this, Artosis solved this build 2-3months ago.

I'm so sick of guys like you, saying that is solved but you dont tell how.


one base colossus pretty much.

You kill the ground army (maybe) and then lose to Banshees.


yay lets argue over a hypothical game. i'll say stalkers, you say, tanks, i say immortals, you say marines, i say colossus, you say banshee.. yaaaaaaaaaaay.

please. one base colossus is ur BEST shot. obviously you'll have to do some targetting......

...

If you attempt to tech to colossus off 1 base and not get twilight then you're essentially limiting the amount of observers you have... in the engagement against terran with cloak banshees... marines will shoot down obs and you're screwed even if you destroy the ground army :/


bro.. even in diamond you know the control your observers for this purpose. you also know to make at least two. and thats diamond. again...... its a hypothetical game so this will go around in circles. Even Artosis made a video on how to counter this... Artosis... 111 isn't new but the hate is spreading like wildfire. why!
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
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