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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 11 2011 07:44 GMT
#2781
On August 11 2011 16:44 JKira wrote:
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On August 11 2011 16:42 Serpico wrote:
Protoss all ins with voids. fine
terran punishes them. imba.


"Punishes." They were both doing an allin just the Terran allin hits slower.

He still had to survive an all in. Tassadar had his chance.
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
August 11 2011 07:44 GMT
#2782
On August 11 2011 16:43 WickedBit wrote:
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On August 11 2011 16:42 lizzard_warish wrote:
so apparently the last thing you want to do against a 1-1-1 is expanding? so what are you suppose to do against terran now? just sit there massing troops arbitrarily [assuming he blocks scouting info]? Or hell, are we honestly suppose to go 1 base against a terran who's clearly at an advantage in that regard? Doesnt matter when the all in hits or what we do before hand, its simply impossible to stop.


I think best thing to do when facing terran is gg. Atleast it will save players some mental anguish.
with toss barely hoving in the mid 30's your basically right on the money. I my as well not be in the game. -_-
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2783
On August 11 2011 16:43 tuho12345 wrote:
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On August 11 2011 16:41 taLbuk wrote:
Just as Zergs cried over stupid protoss builds, they eventually learned to deal with them, the same will happen with Protoss, so stop filling LR threads with bullshit balance complaints.

bullshit, without infestor buff, Zerg can't never beat that!!!
lol

Lots of zergs seem to want to shrug off seemingly valid toss complaints by saying, "We innovated, now it's your turn nubz!" even though 2-rax received multiple nerfs, and fungal was made into what is arguably the best spell in the game.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2784
On August 11 2011 16:40 Fionn wrote:
Only a few terrans don't 1-1-1 vs P. Optimus, Bomber, Keen. Any others?


IIRC bomber used it against MC to knock him to up/down matches last season.
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 07:45:31
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2785
In this episode of the GSL, Moletrap teaches Wolf about the Jews.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2786
On August 11 2011 16:42 Serpico wrote:
Protoss all ins with voids. fine
terran punishes them. imba.


I don't think you quite understand what the state of TvP is right now ;D
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2787
On August 11 2011 16:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:
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On August 11 2011 16:41 Truefire wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:40 Fionn wrote:
Only a few terrans don't 1-1-1 vs P. Optimus, Bomber, Keen. Any others?

Bomber's done this multiple times vs MC

pretty sure bomber's only done it once to MC

feel free to prove me wrong though
That's my recollection as well. To the above poster, Polt used this build during the super tourney, so he's off your list. We're down to Keen...
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2788
On August 11 2011 16:40 BandonBanshee wrote:
Everyone is going to ignore Tasiderps obvious mistakes and blindly QQ
Here it comes

nah, he made some mistakes, i dono why he went blink in game 2, but in game 3 he's obviously just feeling hopeless and went for an all in.

but the fact is that yoda actually made worse mistakes game 2 and was blind countered... and it didn't matter
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2789
On August 11 2011 16:44 MrCon wrote:
Yesterday I was talking how P should blind 3 gate void to counter this TT. It was a 2 gates here, right ? But still.
The best way is what he did in game 2 imo.


The two ways I've beaten this build is phoenix or 1 base colossi. I know 1 gate expand is supposed to be the "proper" non-gimmicky way but I don't have the micro to do it that way. Plus these Terrans are getting better at positioning the build. It seems stronger than I remember it.
Zaurus
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore676 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2790
On August 11 2011 16:41 GGPope wrote:
1/1/1 isn't unstoppable, but the reactions from some of the players towards the all-in is really dodgy...attacking way too early, using poor unit compositions, making bad engagements...this all-in can be held, but I feel like players haven't learnt a really refined response to it yet.

It's still pretty god damn strong though...


this guys train almost everyday. you seriously dont think they know it is coming? I bet they know it is coming when they see the gas. you think they never try to hold this during training with different types of unit composition?
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 07:45:42
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2791
On August 11 2011 16:41 GreatHate wrote:
Balance aside, 1-1-1 is so boring to watch and has been since GSL season 1 a year ago.



This is the scary bit, 1 base Terran is turning the clock back 1 year and we are seeing these SVC all ins. Its terrible to watch and to be honest relies on little skill.

This could kill SC2 as a spectator sport
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2792
Toss all-ined, but pulled back to expand, terran is all-in, no expansion, terran has more units he should win
untilMay
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)190 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2793
On August 11 2011 16:39 SxYSpAz wrote:
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On August 11 2011 16:36 untilMay wrote:
Jesus you guys are acting like whiny bitches. Yes it is hard to beat and yes it's unfair that you have a race that can do pretty much polar builds against you and making you the reactive race. Yes it can be beat. Tassadar did a poor job of trying to defend that.

o it can? show me someone reacting to this with a standard build and a vod. I have no problem being reactive, i love reacting. What i don't like is something i can't react to.

so if you aren't just talking out your ass then link me to a vod.

i think there could be a solution, but there isn't one as of right now

There is not way to beat this going standard "3 gate expo" or "2gate robo" (I'm assuming this is standard?) Tho I've played people where I said " okay going for this 1-1-1" and they won by going fast chargelot/archon/storm. However I feel like i did a poor job that game o_o. It is hard to win against and don't get me wrong, I personally feel it is pretty unfair to have a strat that is a polar opposite from standard play, almost forcing you to play standard.

I don't use this, learned it for curiosity, because I feel playing standard is the most rewarding.

The reason I comment on people whining is because I've noticed since Lo3 today/yesterday that SC2 community is extremely whiny and I'm scared :p, mostly because I want the SC/2 community to be perfect~!
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FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 07:45:58
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2794
On August 11 2011 16:44 youngminii wrote:
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On August 11 2011 16:43 tuho12345 wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:41 taLbuk wrote:
Just as Zergs cried over stupid protoss builds, they eventually learned to deal with them, the same will happen with Protoss, so stop filling LR threads with bullshit balance complaints.

bullshit, without infestor buff, Zerg can't never beat that!!!
lol

this is true

i fucking hate it when people pull out the "zerg figured out how to deal with x"

THEY DIDN'T
THEY GOT BUFFED
jesus christ there's a difference

zergs figuered out that they needed to cry enough, protosses are doing it too!
Do you really want chat rooms?
liam33
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada192 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2795
protoss fails all in and does worst possible follow up
Terran pushes them. imba.
KuBa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Poland98 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2796
On August 11 2011 16:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:
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On August 11 2011 16:41 Truefire wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:40 Fionn wrote:
Only a few terrans don't 1-1-1 vs P. Optimus, Bomber, Keen. Any others?

Bomber's done this multiple times vs MC

pretty sure bomber's only done it once to MC

feel free to prove me wrong though


At least twice, once in Dreamhack and once in the GSL, both on Xel'Naga, if I recally correctly.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2797
Lets be honest guys. Tassadar got a free by from the first round. JYP be our new FD.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2798
On August 11 2011 16:45 ZenithM wrote:
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On August 11 2011 16:42 Serpico wrote:
Protoss all ins with voids. fine
terran punishes them. imba.


I don't think you quite understand what the state of TvP is right now ;D

I think you dont understand how often people bitch about imbalances without trying to figure out a counter. Zergs did the same thing, toss players know how it feels now. Keep the tears flowing.
Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2799
The only protoss that have a chance of advancing are those that don't play against terran.
simbot
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia95 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#2800
On August 11 2011 16:44 Engore wrote:
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On August 11 2011 16:42 simbot wrote:
these tears are amazing


I know right?? So much for no balance whine in LR's lol.



so much for having moderators
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