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On August 11 2011 09:34 ct2299 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 09:04 hmmm... wrote:On August 11 2011 06:15 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On August 11 2011 06:05 ct2299 wrote:On August 11 2011 03:00 ImmortalTofu wrote:On August 11 2011 02:56 lunchforthesky wrote:On August 11 2011 02:54 PlaGuE_R wrote:On August 11 2011 01:21 Finrod1 wrote:
I just finished watching these "games" today.... it was so so one sided. Only the first thorzain game obviously but both games after that thorzain didn't stand a chance.
GSL needs to stop giving codeA spots to foreigners. They simply do not deserve any of those spots. I feel really really bad for all the better korean players they didnt get a spot because of them.
Foreigners just have a chance if they stay months (no not just 1^^) in korea and train in a progaming house. Otherwise they are going to keep getting rolled.
And gstl is no real competition compared to the gsl. If you win there it means soo much less.
I really hope GSL stops giving those spots because its just a little freakshow. FUCK. YOU just get the fuck out of here. if you can't support these amazing guys who traveled half way around the world to try and fulfill their dreams, then get the fuck out of here and don't post in LR threads. Seriously, what is wrong with people!? It seems we're all quick to forget how HuK used to be defeated by his own nerve issues? and now he's one of the top 5 protosses in the world. seems we're quick to forget that SaSe, nAni, and Thorzain are all completely new to the Korean scene, that they literally JUST hopped off a plane from Sweden after going to Warsaw and were thrust into a GOMtv booth with hardly any time to prepare. All you idiots who shout shit like ESPORTS ESPORTS like retarded monkeys and then when the people that represent US, the non-koreans, lose, you start bashing them and calling them 'freakshow'? NO! what have YOU accomplished? GTFO Jinro, I hate your slump because I love you, please get yourself out of your own head and get back on from nAni, I love your super solid style, I know you'll do better with more booth experience and korean training experience Thorzain, once you start training with koreans you'll be a powerhouse Terran, I'm sure of it. SaSe, I'm sorry i'm not a big follower of yours, but i promise i'll pay more attention now that you're in korea! BEST OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU I'm English, Swedish people do not represent me anymore than Koreans or Americans do. I'm American. The swedes don't represent me either... UNTIL YOU REALIZE THAT THEY'RE THE BEACON OF HOPE FOR THE WHOLE FOREIGNER SCENE! You need to realize that supporting these guys means supporting esports and the sustainability of SC2 worldwide! The mentaility you are coming at it with is frankly disgusting. Why am I EXPECTED to cheer foreigners on more than Koreans just because I'm not Korean? I'm sorry, I don't see it as Korea against the World like most of you guys do, just because a majority of the people are still butt hurt from Starcraft 1. In fact, since I'm Chinese, I'd be cheering for Koreans more than I would be cheering for Europeans or Americans anyways geographical proximity-wise and since I'm Asian. I really could care less if a foreigner never won a game again. I'm much more into cheering for people who show skill and have a proper mindset towards this, and the dedication to succeed. Jinro and Naniwa get lots of respect from me because of their strong work ethic and dedication so I would hope the best for them. But don't expect to cheer for someone like Sheth that leaves Korea before even giving it a chance. I don't think people deserve to be flamed for making these decisions either. You are missing the point. You are assuming the only reason to cheer for these guys is their nationality, but that has nothing to do with it. Instead, we cheer on foreigners because they grew as players outside the esports capital of the world, and are thus underdogs. They represent the fact that korea is not the only place housing amazing talent (like many koreans seem to believe). Here's an example to illustrate this point. Select is korean but lives in America. But if he were to participate in the GSL, we would all be rooting hard for him because he's a participant in the foreign scene. i'm pretty sure if the esports capital was in a western european nation where the dominant players were all western european, you wouldn't be rooting for korean participants who were underdogs. ur trying to sound impartial, but people aligning themselves with similar race/nationality is a fact. posters on teamliquid always have a controversy with regards to select's identity; as a gamer status, he's totally a "foreigner", the way the esports community has defined foreigner. but every time select does well, there's always a few tl posters who will proclaim how he's not actually foreigner since he's "korean" (ethnically) and thus, delegitimizing his efforts. You mean like how everyone suddenly said HuK was a foreigner again after he won two tournaments when back when he wasn't doing as well, people were using him as an example of how the Korean training style isn't necessarily the best? Please, it's not like the pro-foreigner fans are any better lol.
Isn't that his point? That people will align themselves to ethnicity/nationality/race? He's basically saying that most of the people claiming they are cheering for the underdog probably wouldn't be doing so if the underdogs were Korean. And I find all the underdog claims interesting given how many people considered the foreigners except for Sase and Sjow to be locks for their first matches in the hype thread.
On August 11 2011 09:16 Jerubaal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 06:39 Spicy Pepper wrote:
TL nerd bottles all his hope into a foreign player -> foreigne player loses to a Korean -> TL raging nerd proclaims SC2 foreign scene will die -> SC2 foreign scene keeps growing (this fact doesn't affect TL nerd's opinion) -> TL nerd waits for the next foreign vs Korean match -> repeat I don't know who says that the foreign scene is dying. In fact the trend is to increasingly care less about Korea.
That might have been the trend months ago (like at the end of TSL3 where people claimed we had parity with the Koreans). Then we started inviting them to our LANs. Fact of the matter is, there is an overabundance of talent in Korea atm and not enough tournaments...they will follow the money and that is into the foreign scene. If the foreign scene can't keep up in skill, then the foreigners aren't going to win anything and so people fear that will be the end of esports or w-e.
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On August 11 2011 09:34 ct2299 wrote:
seems we're quick to forget that SaSe, nAni, and Thorzain are all completely new to the Korean scene, that they literally JUST hopped off a plane from Sweden after going to Warsaw and were thrust into a GOMtv booth with hardly any time to prepare.
I would be much more supportive of then if that wasn't THEIR OWN CHOICE.
They already missed a week of GSTL... GOM is bending over backwards to reschedule everything for them, so obviously the original schedule intended for them to have been in Korea more than 2 days.
Koreans train every day for their matches, the foreigners did not.
My only investment in the 3 that flew in (not Jinro) is that I liquibet on them, but I feel betrayed anyway. Even if they are on the same skill level as Koreans, why would you put hardly any training time into a match that if you lose, eliminates you from all GSL matches for the next MONTH?
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Just checked the results........
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wrong thread roflroflrofl
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On August 11 2011 11:44 fant0m wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 09:34 ct2299 wrote:
seems we're quick to forget that SaSe, nAni, and Thorzain are all completely new to the Korean scene, that they literally JUST hopped off a plane from Sweden after going to Warsaw and were thrust into a GOMtv booth with hardly any time to prepare.
I would be much more supportive of then if that wasn't THEIR OWN CHOICE. They already missed a week of GSTL... GOM is bending over backwards to reschedule everything for them, so obviously the original schedule intended for them to have been in Korea more than 2 days. Koreans train every day for their matches, the foreigners did not. My only investment in the 3 that flew in (not Jinro) is that I liquibet on them, but I feel betrayed anyway. Even if they are on the same skill level as Koreans, why would you put hardly any training time into a match that if you lose, eliminates you from all GSL matches for the next MONTH?
Yea, this is another little thing that makes me a bit less supportive of the foreigners...Most of them just don't take this as seriously as the Koreans do. I guess getting rolled the first time around is to be expected but it doesn't seem like they gave it their best shot at Code A. I know they had opportunities to compete in money events elsewhere but at the same time...if you're committed to doing the Korea thing and want to be the best you can be, time in the big leagues count. With all the complaint about foreigners not getting enough support, the foreigner scheduling, etc, GOM was never at fault for any of this and have been just as if not more accommodating than any other league. As fans, if we want to see the game played at the highest of levels, then we should be able to voice that opinion and not get flamed for it just because we're cheering for or supporting Koreans more than foreigners. Maybe try to turn all that anger and disappointment into something constructive and get your favorite players to try harder, get better, and heck, maybe even start practicing on KR server at least even if they choose not to go to Korea.
*edit : might have been a bit too harsh*
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On August 11 2011 11:21 tripper688 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 09:34 ct2299 wrote:On August 11 2011 09:04 hmmm... wrote:On August 11 2011 06:15 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On August 11 2011 06:05 ct2299 wrote:On August 11 2011 03:00 ImmortalTofu wrote:On August 11 2011 02:56 lunchforthesky wrote:On August 11 2011 02:54 PlaGuE_R wrote:On August 11 2011 01:21 Finrod1 wrote:
I just finished watching these "games" today.... it was so so one sided. Only the first thorzain game obviously but both games after that thorzain didn't stand a chance.
GSL needs to stop giving codeA spots to foreigners. They simply do not deserve any of those spots. I feel really really bad for all the better korean players they didnt get a spot because of them.
Foreigners just have a chance if they stay months (no not just 1^^) in korea and train in a progaming house. Otherwise they are going to keep getting rolled.
And gstl is no real competition compared to the gsl. If you win there it means soo much less.
I really hope GSL stops giving those spots because its just a little freakshow. FUCK. YOU just get the fuck out of here. if you can't support these amazing guys who traveled half way around the world to try and fulfill their dreams, then get the fuck out of here and don't post in LR threads. Seriously, what is wrong with people!? It seems we're all quick to forget how HuK used to be defeated by his own nerve issues? and now he's one of the top 5 protosses in the world. seems we're quick to forget that SaSe, nAni, and Thorzain are all completely new to the Korean scene, that they literally JUST hopped off a plane from Sweden after going to Warsaw and were thrust into a GOMtv booth with hardly any time to prepare. All you idiots who shout shit like ESPORTS ESPORTS like retarded monkeys and then when the people that represent US, the non-koreans, lose, you start bashing them and calling them 'freakshow'? NO! what have YOU accomplished? GTFO Jinro, I hate your slump because I love you, please get yourself out of your own head and get back on from nAni, I love your super solid style, I know you'll do better with more booth experience and korean training experience Thorzain, once you start training with koreans you'll be a powerhouse Terran, I'm sure of it. SaSe, I'm sorry i'm not a big follower of yours, but i promise i'll pay more attention now that you're in korea! BEST OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU I'm English, Swedish people do not represent me anymore than Koreans or Americans do. I'm American. The swedes don't represent me either... UNTIL YOU REALIZE THAT THEY'RE THE BEACON OF HOPE FOR THE WHOLE FOREIGNER SCENE! You need to realize that supporting these guys means supporting esports and the sustainability of SC2 worldwide! The mentaility you are coming at it with is frankly disgusting. Why am I EXPECTED to cheer foreigners on more than Koreans just because I'm not Korean? I'm sorry, I don't see it as Korea against the World like most of you guys do, just because a majority of the people are still butt hurt from Starcraft 1. In fact, since I'm Chinese, I'd be cheering for Koreans more than I would be cheering for Europeans or Americans anyways geographical proximity-wise and since I'm Asian. I really could care less if a foreigner never won a game again. I'm much more into cheering for people who show skill and have a proper mindset towards this, and the dedication to succeed. Jinro and Naniwa get lots of respect from me because of their strong work ethic and dedication so I would hope the best for them. But don't expect to cheer for someone like Sheth that leaves Korea before even giving it a chance. I don't think people deserve to be flamed for making these decisions either. You are missing the point. You are assuming the only reason to cheer for these guys is their nationality, but that has nothing to do with it. Instead, we cheer on foreigners because they grew as players outside the esports capital of the world, and are thus underdogs. They represent the fact that korea is not the only place housing amazing talent (like many koreans seem to believe). Here's an example to illustrate this point. Select is korean but lives in America. But if he were to participate in the GSL, we would all be rooting hard for him because he's a participant in the foreign scene. i'm pretty sure if the esports capital was in a western european nation where the dominant players were all western european, you wouldn't be rooting for korean participants who were underdogs. ur trying to sound impartial, but people aligning themselves with similar race/nationality is a fact. posters on teamliquid always have a controversy with regards to select's identity; as a gamer status, he's totally a "foreigner", the way the esports community has defined foreigner. but every time select does well, there's always a few tl posters who will proclaim how he's not actually foreigner since he's "korean" (ethnically) and thus, delegitimizing his efforts. You mean like how everyone suddenly said HuK was a foreigner again after he won two tournaments when back when he wasn't doing as well, people were using him as an example of how the Korean training style isn't necessarily the best? Please, it's not like the pro-foreigner fans are any better lol. Isn't that his point? That people will align themselves to ethnicity/nationality/race? He's basically saying that most of the people claiming they are cheering for the underdog probably wouldn't be doing so if the underdogs were Korean. And I find all the underdog claims interesting given how many people considered the foreigners except for Sase and Sjow to be locks for their first matches in the hype thread. Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 09:16 Jerubaal wrote:On August 11 2011 06:39 Spicy Pepper wrote:
TL nerd bottles all his hope into a foreign player -> foreigne player loses to a Korean -> TL raging nerd proclaims SC2 foreign scene will die -> SC2 foreign scene keeps growing (this fact doesn't affect TL nerd's opinion) -> TL nerd waits for the next foreign vs Korean match -> repeat I don't know who says that the foreign scene is dying. In fact the trend is to increasingly care less about Korea. That might have been the trend months ago (like at the end of TSL3 where people claimed we had parity with the Koreans). Then we started inviting them to our LANs. Fact of the matter is, there is an overabundance of talent in Korea atm and not enough tournaments...they will follow the money and that is into the foreign scene. If the foreign scene can't keep up in skill, then the foreigners aren't going to win anything and so people fear that will be the end of esports or w-e.
It's only the end of esports if people are ignorant enough to value national pride over player skill. In which case we don't deserve those types of fans anyways.
Do people stop watching the nba because they live in china? Hell no, and they love it for sure. You saw Kobe getting the loudest reception in the 2008 beijing olympics. People watch the best, regardless if they're black, asian, purple, whatever. Quite frankly if the foreigners can't win then they don't deserve to win. No shortcuts in life.
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Uhhhhh... ugly results. I thought at least one of the foreigners would make it.
And Jinro slumptrend continues with him dropping out of GSL
Hope you will make it back Jinro! I am used to seeing you play in GSL  !
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On August 11 2011 03:31 BushidoSnipr wrote:swedes got owned so hard
Atleast we (they) tried.
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Not going to lie, that was ugly to watch. Other than Thorzain's first game they got mauled.
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Are there any winners interviews up yet? i may have missed them, tried searching. Milkies mentioned them on twitter.
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Lol so sad I was really excited about Code A this time -.-
For me its pointless to keep following Code A now, maybe Im gonna watch a few Code S games between the top Koreans...such a waste that I bought a season ticket.
Gom might not be too happy about the results as well ;p
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It's weird, but I find myself rooting more for my SC race than foreigners IRL. I don't really care about Jinro or Thorzain, but Naniwa and SaSe going down annoy me. Even then, MC getting beaten irritates me far more than either of those.
Perhaps it's because I come from the UK, where our only pro SC2 players is DeMuslim. Ha... DeMuslim.
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Watched them now... blah... BLAH I say! None of them played half as good as they could, what the fuck is wrong with foreigners getting to korea and underperforming? I don't care about HuK, I think he's a bad player and he always will be imo, but just like MC he can learn builds/micro so good he can win against the most innovative and prodigious of players simply by applying pressure and executing the build good.
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On August 11 2011 14:32 tripper688 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 11:44 fant0m wrote:On August 11 2011 09:34 ct2299 wrote:
seems we're quick to forget that SaSe, nAni, and Thorzain are all completely new to the Korean scene, that they literally JUST hopped off a plane from Sweden after going to Warsaw and were thrust into a GOMtv booth with hardly any time to prepare.
I would be much more supportive of then if that wasn't THEIR OWN CHOICE. They already missed a week of GSTL... GOM is bending over backwards to reschedule everything for them, so obviously the original schedule intended for them to have been in Korea more than 2 days. Koreans train every day for their matches, the foreigners did not. My only investment in the 3 that flew in (not Jinro) is that I liquibet on them, but I feel betrayed anyway. Even if they are on the same skill level as Koreans, why would you put hardly any training time into a match that if you lose, eliminates you from all GSL matches for the next MONTH? Yea, this is another little thing that makes me a bit less supportive of the foreigners...Most of them just don't take this as seriously as the Koreans do. I guess getting rolled the first time around is to be expected but it doesn't seem like they gave it their best shot at Code A. I know they had opportunities to compete in money events elsewhere but at the same time...if you're committed to doing the Korea thing and want to be the best you can be, time in the big leagues count. With all the complaint about foreigners not getting enough support, the foreigner scheduling, etc, GOM was never at fault for any of this and have been just as if not more accommodating than any other league. As fans, if we want to see the game played at the highest of levels, then we should be able to voice that opinion and not get flamed for it just because we're cheering for or supporting Koreans more than foreigners. Maybe try to turn all that anger and disappointment into something constructive and get your favorite players to try harder, get better, and heck, maybe even start practicing on KR server at least even if they choose not to go to Korea. *edit : might have been a bit too harsh*
Naniwa stated he went to korea for training and Code A is just a bonus, and that is a healthy mind set in my opinion.
We cannot expect foreigners to show up to their first Code A match immediately after arrival and be as well prepared as their opponents, who probably waited for this single opportunity for months now.
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These guys are still playing as part of F.United for GSTL every week, so make sure to check them out.
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Still
Korea > Sweden > Europe > the rest
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Don't get why people are arguing jetlag now. Being jetlagged from travelling to two places is no different from jetlag from one place to the other. It's not like you'll be jetlagged to two timezones *rolls eyes*.
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On August 11 2011 22:06 Maenander wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 14:32 tripper688 wrote:On August 11 2011 11:44 fant0m wrote:On August 11 2011 09:34 ct2299 wrote:
seems we're quick to forget that SaSe, nAni, and Thorzain are all completely new to the Korean scene, that they literally JUST hopped off a plane from Sweden after going to Warsaw and were thrust into a GOMtv booth with hardly any time to prepare.
I would be much more supportive of then if that wasn't THEIR OWN CHOICE. They already missed a week of GSTL... GOM is bending over backwards to reschedule everything for them, so obviously the original schedule intended for them to have been in Korea more than 2 days. Koreans train every day for their matches, the foreigners did not. My only investment in the 3 that flew in (not Jinro) is that I liquibet on them, but I feel betrayed anyway. Even if they are on the same skill level as Koreans, why would you put hardly any training time into a match that if you lose, eliminates you from all GSL matches for the next MONTH? Yea, this is another little thing that makes me a bit less supportive of the foreigners...Most of them just don't take this as seriously as the Koreans do. I guess getting rolled the first time around is to be expected but it doesn't seem like they gave it their best shot at Code A. I know they had opportunities to compete in money events elsewhere but at the same time...if you're committed to doing the Korea thing and want to be the best you can be, time in the big leagues count. With all the complaint about foreigners not getting enough support, the foreigner scheduling, etc, GOM was never at fault for any of this and have been just as if not more accommodating than any other league. As fans, if we want to see the game played at the highest of levels, then we should be able to voice that opinion and not get flamed for it just because we're cheering for or supporting Koreans more than foreigners. Maybe try to turn all that anger and disappointment into something constructive and get your favorite players to try harder, get better, and heck, maybe even start practicing on KR server at least even if they choose not to go to Korea. *edit : might have been a bit too harsh* Naniwa stated he went to korea for training and Code A is just a bonus, and that is a healthy mind set in my opinion. We cannot expect foreigners to show up to their first Code A match immediately after arrival and be as well prepared as their opponents, who probably waited for this single opportunity for months now.
That's my point...people need to commit to doing the whole Korea thing if they want to keep up. It's great that Nani viewed this more as an introduction to Korea than an actual shot at Code A but unless every foreigner felt the same way, they should have been in Korea preparing lol. I'm not expecting them to show up to their first code A match and be as prepared. I'm expecting them to go prepare properly if Korea/GSL is what these guys are aiming for.
On August 11 2011 23:08 pAzand wrote:
Still
Korea > Sweden > Europe > the rest
Sweden and Europe > HuK, Sen, IdrA?
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On August 12 2011 01:27 tripper688 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 22:06 Maenander wrote:On August 11 2011 14:32 tripper688 wrote:On August 11 2011 11:44 fant0m wrote:On August 11 2011 09:34 ct2299 wrote:
seems we're quick to forget that SaSe, nAni, and Thorzain are all completely new to the Korean scene, that they literally JUST hopped off a plane from Sweden after going to Warsaw and were thrust into a GOMtv booth with hardly any time to prepare.
I would be much more supportive of then if that wasn't THEIR OWN CHOICE. They already missed a week of GSTL... GOM is bending over backwards to reschedule everything for them, so obviously the original schedule intended for them to have been in Korea more than 2 days. Koreans train every day for their matches, the foreigners did not. My only investment in the 3 that flew in (not Jinro) is that I liquibet on them, but I feel betrayed anyway. Even if they are on the same skill level as Koreans, why would you put hardly any training time into a match that if you lose, eliminates you from all GSL matches for the next MONTH? Yea, this is another little thing that makes me a bit less supportive of the foreigners...Most of them just don't take this as seriously as the Koreans do. I guess getting rolled the first time around is to be expected but it doesn't seem like they gave it their best shot at Code A. I know they had opportunities to compete in money events elsewhere but at the same time...if you're committed to doing the Korea thing and want to be the best you can be, time in the big leagues count. With all the complaint about foreigners not getting enough support, the foreigner scheduling, etc, GOM was never at fault for any of this and have been just as if not more accommodating than any other league. As fans, if we want to see the game played at the highest of levels, then we should be able to voice that opinion and not get flamed for it just because we're cheering for or supporting Koreans more than foreigners. Maybe try to turn all that anger and disappointment into something constructive and get your favorite players to try harder, get better, and heck, maybe even start practicing on KR server at least even if they choose not to go to Korea. *edit : might have been a bit too harsh* Naniwa stated he went to korea for training and Code A is just a bonus, and that is a healthy mind set in my opinion. We cannot expect foreigners to show up to their first Code A match immediately after arrival and be as well prepared as their opponents, who probably waited for this single opportunity for months now. That's my point...people need to commit to doing the whole Korea thing if they want to keep up. It's great that Nani viewed this more as an introduction to Korea than an actual shot at Code A but unless every foreigner felt the same way, they should have been in Korea preparing lol. I'm not expecting them to show up to their first code A match and be as prepared. I'm expecting them to go prepare properly if Korea/GSL is what these guys are aiming for. Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 23:08 pAzand wrote:
Still
Korea > Sweden > Europe > the rest Sweden and Europe > HuK, Sen, IdrA?
Overall its korea > europe > north america. Leave it to sweedes to self proclaim their nation as the 2nd best.
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On August 12 2011 01:34 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 01:27 tripper688 wrote:On August 11 2011 22:06 Maenander wrote:On August 11 2011 14:32 tripper688 wrote:On August 11 2011 11:44 fant0m wrote:On August 11 2011 09:34 ct2299 wrote:
seems we're quick to forget that SaSe, nAni, and Thorzain are all completely new to the Korean scene, that they literally JUST hopped off a plane from Sweden after going to Warsaw and were thrust into a GOMtv booth with hardly any time to prepare.
I would be much more supportive of then if that wasn't THEIR OWN CHOICE. They already missed a week of GSTL... GOM is bending over backwards to reschedule everything for them, so obviously the original schedule intended for them to have been in Korea more than 2 days. Koreans train every day for their matches, the foreigners did not. My only investment in the 3 that flew in (not Jinro) is that I liquibet on them, but I feel betrayed anyway. Even if they are on the same skill level as Koreans, why would you put hardly any training time into a match that if you lose, eliminates you from all GSL matches for the next MONTH? Yea, this is another little thing that makes me a bit less supportive of the foreigners...Most of them just don't take this as seriously as the Koreans do. I guess getting rolled the first time around is to be expected but it doesn't seem like they gave it their best shot at Code A. I know they had opportunities to compete in money events elsewhere but at the same time...if you're committed to doing the Korea thing and want to be the best you can be, time in the big leagues count. With all the complaint about foreigners not getting enough support, the foreigner scheduling, etc, GOM was never at fault for any of this and have been just as if not more accommodating than any other league. As fans, if we want to see the game played at the highest of levels, then we should be able to voice that opinion and not get flamed for it just because we're cheering for or supporting Koreans more than foreigners. Maybe try to turn all that anger and disappointment into something constructive and get your favorite players to try harder, get better, and heck, maybe even start practicing on KR server at least even if they choose not to go to Korea. *edit : might have been a bit too harsh* Naniwa stated he went to korea for training and Code A is just a bonus, and that is a healthy mind set in my opinion. We cannot expect foreigners to show up to their first Code A match immediately after arrival and be as well prepared as their opponents, who probably waited for this single opportunity for months now. That's my point...people need to commit to doing the whole Korea thing if they want to keep up. It's great that Nani viewed this more as an introduction to Korea than an actual shot at Code A but unless every foreigner felt the same way, they should have been in Korea preparing lol. I'm not expecting them to show up to their first code A match and be as prepared. I'm expecting them to go prepare properly if Korea/GSL is what these guys are aiming for. On August 11 2011 23:08 pAzand wrote:
Still
Korea > Sweden > Europe > the rest Sweden and Europe > HuK, Sen, IdrA? Overall its korea > europe > north america. Leave it to sweedes to self proclaim their nation as the 2nd best.
What country has better players? Just wondering? MAYBE China
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