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On July 31 2011 10:18 wats0n wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 10:08 Heavenly wrote:
Lol why would he not have like 20 gates at least at that point? Was he eating or something? Because that's a total waste of resources and apm. I can't stand that Mana style of dropping 20 gates. You can't produce off that many. It's way more efficient to use a lower number of gates. Only time the mass gates is important is when cooldown is a factor. And considering Kiwi owned the whole map cooldown was not important. He played it correctly.
I think the biggest waste of resources is when you have 5k/2k floating for the last 10 minutes of a game and you don't use it at all.
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On July 31 2011 10:14 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 10:13 Zane wrote:On July 31 2011 10:11 Dommk wrote:On July 31 2011 10:06 sunman1g wrote:
Kiwikaki: A+move + Spam T
MooNan: stim, EMP templars, scoot and shoot, spread units
TvP late game battle are so funny from the micro point of view :D Except EMP's are x20 easier to land than Storms. And Protoss actually has unit formation where as Terran doesn't Actually EMP's are X23.69 easier to land than Storms. It is known. It is known.
I was thinking about this myself today. Why is it that storm is so much weaker than fungal and EMP?
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On July 31 2011 10:18 wats0n wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 10:08 Heavenly wrote:
Lol why would he not have like 20 gates at least at that point? Was he eating or something? Because that's a total waste of resources and apm. I can't stand that Mana style of dropping 20 gates. You can't produce off that many. It's way more efficient to use a lower number of gates. Only time the mass gates is important is when cooldown is a factor. And considering Kiwi owned the whole map cooldown was not important. He played it correctly.
When you have 7000/3000, you can use 20 gates.
It allows you to trade armies with a terran, then make 100 supply in 30 seconds, enough to overrun them before they can remake their own army.
If you keep production slow, you will take forever to actually finish off terran.
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Woh, there actually WON'T be blue flame hellions in this game... pretty crazy.
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On July 31 2011 10:19 Chainfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 10:18 Telcontar wrote:On July 31 2011 10:17 Chainfire99 wrote:On July 31 2011 10:15 TheDougler wrote:On July 31 2011 10:14 Scila wrote:On July 31 2011 10:14 dcemuser wrote:On July 31 2011 10:13 Zane wrote:On July 31 2011 10:11 Dommk wrote:On July 31 2011 10:06 sunman1g wrote:
Kiwikaki: A+move + Spam T
MooNan: stim, EMP templars, scoot and shoot, spread units
TvP late game battle are so funny from the micro point of view :D Except EMP's are x20 easier to land than Storms. And Protoss actually has unit formation where as Terran doesn't Actually EMP's are X23.69 easier to land than Storms. It is known. It is known. It is known. Winter is coming. A Lannister always pays his debts... Night gathers, and now my watch begins. I have the blood of a dragon
You know nothing, Chainfire99.
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I feel IdrA makes a good point on Koreans being bad Tosses. Other than MC and MAYBE Puzzle and Alicia, have there been any successful Protoss players in Korea?
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On July 31 2011 10:12 Jinivus wrote:Yeah korean protoss are so bad...especially that MC guy. Protoss could have a 1 percent win rate and Idra would still whine.
See Brood War for an example of that.
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On July 31 2011 10:19 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 10:18 wats0n wrote:On July 31 2011 10:08 Heavenly wrote:
Lol why would he not have like 20 gates at least at that point? Was he eating or something? Because that's a total waste of resources and apm. I can't stand that Mana style of dropping 20 gates. You can't produce off that many. It's way more efficient to use a lower number of gates. Only time the mass gates is important is when cooldown is a factor. And considering Kiwi owned the whole map cooldown was not important. He played it correctly. only making 3 collossi when 6k 3k and 130 supply is not how you play anything.
Is when you want to make shit take longer than it should.
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Is anyone still doubting that Koreans will rock the top 3?
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On July 31 2011 10:20 Courstice wrote:
I feel IdrA makes a good point on Koreans being bad Tosses. Other than MC and MAYBE Puzzle and Alicia, have there been any successful Protoss players in Korea?
San, Sage, half of NSHeoSeo.
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On July 31 2011 10:15 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 10:14 Scila wrote:On July 31 2011 10:14 dcemuser wrote:On July 31 2011 10:13 Zane wrote:On July 31 2011 10:11 Dommk wrote:On July 31 2011 10:06 sunman1g wrote:
Kiwikaki: A+move + Spam T
MooNan: stim, EMP templars, scoot and shoot, spread units
TvP late game battle are so funny from the micro point of view :D Except EMP's are x20 easier to land than Storms. And Protoss actually has unit formation where as Terran doesn't Actually EMP's are X23.69 easier to land than Storms. It is known. It is known. It is known. Winter is coming.
When was that quote "it is known" in the series?
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Wow, Vibe and StrifeCro both going down in LBr6. o.O
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On July 31 2011 10:20 DystopiaX wrote:
Demuslim beats DDE 6-1
That's an impressive score there. Is DDE a masochist btw?
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yeah demuslim won against dde in an extended series 4-1 !
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On July 31 2011 10:18 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 10:17 RedHelix wrote:
Anyone know what happened to demuslim? Last I heard he lost to Ganzi in the winners, but what happened afterwards? Afaik he's playing dde again in the LB.
Actually he beat dde once again, so his opponent is TBD.
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On July 31 2011 10:16 bennyaus wrote:
Not a huge fan of Kiwi's build, tbh. It is fine to take a risk like that as a once off, but not getting detection until your third is fully saturated, very late into the game is extremely risky. I feel as if Moonan realised the same build happened twice he can just through down two starports for banshees after his expand and lol his way to victory, as Kiwi's only scouting method was Moonan attacking him with his army (so he could see the MM+Ghost).
he was building cannons in his mineral lines, so econ losses would in the least be minimal. I think the general thinking of the build is, he wants the forge fast anyway, doesn't really want the robo, so unless the terran forces him to make the robo, he won't bother(i mean he did see gasless expands, and that's far from effective banshee opening, since detection is out when banshees would hit after it, not to mention more gates which make the warpins more versatile that is, he can get enough GtA units with 1 warpin.
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On July 31 2011 10:19 Chainfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 10:18 Telcontar wrote:On July 31 2011 10:17 Chainfire99 wrote:On July 31 2011 10:15 TheDougler wrote:On July 31 2011 10:14 Scila wrote:On July 31 2011 10:14 dcemuser wrote:On July 31 2011 10:13 Zane wrote:On July 31 2011 10:11 Dommk wrote:On July 31 2011 10:06 sunman1g wrote:
Kiwikaki: A+move + Spam T
MooNan: stim, EMP templars, scoot and shoot, spread units
TvP late game battle are so funny from the micro point of view :D Except EMP's are x20 easier to land than Storms. And Protoss actually has unit formation where as Terran doesn't Actually EMP's are X23.69 easier to land than Storms. It is known. It is known. It is known. Winter is coming. A Lannister always pays his debts... Night gathers, and now my watch begins. I have the blood of a dragon
kinda OT but could someone please , please tell me where the whores go?
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On July 31 2011 10:20 Knightess wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 10:15 TheDougler wrote:On July 31 2011 10:14 Scila wrote:On July 31 2011 10:14 dcemuser wrote:On July 31 2011 10:13 Zane wrote:On July 31 2011 10:11 Dommk wrote:On July 31 2011 10:06 sunman1g wrote:
Kiwikaki: A+move + Spam T
MooNan: stim, EMP templars, scoot and shoot, spread units
TvP late game battle are so funny from the micro point of view :D Except EMP's are x20 easier to land than Storms. And Protoss actually has unit formation where as Terran doesn't Actually EMP's are X23.69 easier to land than Storms. It is known. It is known. It is known. Winter is coming. When was that quote "it is known" in the series?
Dany's dothraki bitches.
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