Boxer has some of the most obsessed fans ever and after a match v IdrA ironically there's always fanboy accusations thrown towards anybody who actually wants IdrA to win. Honestly, BoxeR will get crushed by any competent Zerg. He can't hold a prolonged macro game.

Not to take anything away from him but yes, IdrA did play so much worse than his potential there, plus the fact that BoxeR knows exactly how to take down IdrA.

Poor Sen. I guess you'll have to be the one to tell him he's incompetent...

DystopiaX

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July 30 2011 02:36 GMT

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It baffles my mind how anybody can hope BoxeR loses a tournament.

I mean, if he's up against your favourite player I can understand hoping he loses, but just hoping he loses in general?

I didn't even follow BW that closely and it disgusts me, I can't imagine how it makes you die-hard BW fans feel >.>

I didn't watch any BW during boxer's time, but tbqh i would love to see things other then these atks all the time out of him vs zerg players.

Wow ... sure ... he should try something that doesnt win him games, that makes perfect sense.

GG by Boxer, they were well played attacks and he used good timings.

Idra, stayed on lings to long IMO. Behind the hellion attacks Boxer was just massing a ball of marines which won in the end.

Did you see terrans doing bunker pressure all the time vs zergs in BW? How often for that matter do you see any cheese out of BW players? What i am saying is I personally would rather have him win other ways then these cheese/strong early game timings.

He's pressuring as he expands...do you have any clue how TvZ is supposed to be played and to a greater degree, how Starcraft is supposed to be played?

pretty sure on 2 base when bringing whole army he is looking to kill him because Idra did way overdrone or exchange armys, and i did not see a 3rd coming up for boxer and i am pretty sure that would be a early third if so.

There was a CC almost done by the time the push hit Idras base. I guess you weren't watching it. He needed to threaten and do some damage in order to secure his third. It just happened that he could kill Idra so he did.

Boxer had just lost a huge portion of his workers. Right after his heavy loss instead of refilling his worker count he puts down production facilities designed for that big push. In other words, it was a huge investment and he would have little to fall back on if it failed.

You mean nothing more than better tech and one more base than IdrA...10 workers down isn't that bad when you have mules lol

Boxer cut workers for the push
Idra continued to make workers

I think it's pretty clear that it fits the definition of cheese at that point: Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies in large parts on lack of information and/or psychological impact on the opponent.

IdrA saw the push coming...not so unexpected, and the build isn't weird at all, Hellion expands are a normal build lol. Not cheese.

Spacekyod

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