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G2Wolf
United States261 Posts
On July 22 2011 12:54 NeSE wrote: <huge wall of text> Sounds like the same excuse used last year http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1252366991 You guys always use the "Wait for <the first of next month> for Blizzard confirmation" excuse or just happened to forget you've used it before? | ||
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TelecoM
United States10671 Posts
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pHaRSiDE
United States752 Posts
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NeSE
United States87 Posts
There is a 1v1 and 2v2 setting available. Our structure is comprised of many Four Person Brackets which forces 1 of every 4 participants to win each round. The point of this system is to give everyone a real chance at winning cash prizes whereas 98% of tournaments today pay the top 3 players. The last round of each tournament is the Final Fifty where we convert to a round robin style. Here the top 50 players go head to head in two weeks of scheduled matches. The point of this system to create as much viewership opportunities as humanly possible. Regarding additional revenue here: If you read anything on our web site you would know any person who registers for the tournament is able to watch the event in HD at no extra cost. The four winners from the Final Fifty round not only get to compete for a $30,000 1st place prize but also a plus two guest list for an all-expense paid trip to Las Vegas Where they will compete! The point of this is to provide a totally new environment for the gaming community to enjoy an event at. We think it might be a better idea to host our finals in Las Vegas as opposed to the more commonly used areas like Columbus and Anaheim. This will provide everyone who attends the event with far better extra activities to pursue if they should so choose. We have also spent a great deal of time, effort and money on our web site and that revolves solely around the gaming community. We are providing a near mimic of StarCraft II Battle.net User Interface with all of the aspects of the site. The only reason we have gone to such lengths is to bring the best possible gaming environment that EVERYONE and ANYONE can be a part of! This link shows you everything that comes along with registering in the NeSE and everything listed here is based on feedback we received over time and changes we made based on that feedback. http://ne-se.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17&sid=baa9157022cd80fc184735242345668b | ||
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NeSE
United States87 Posts
Sounds like the same excuse used last year http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1252366991 You guys always use the "Wait for <the first of next month> for Blizzard confirmation" excuse or just happened to forget you've used it before? I am so glad you pointed that exact post out, I was going to myself. As I had previously stated we experienced some legal deterrence and were forced to slightly re-vamp the format of the tournament. That particular instance was the closest we were to launching on our scheduled announcement date. Again, I can assure you that the announcements will appear throughout Blizzard sites on August 1st. Would I go to such lengths and continuously say that if I was making it up? | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:29 NeSE wrote: I am so glad you pointed that exact post out, I was going to myself. As I had previously stated we experienced some legal deterrence and were forced to slightly re-vamp the format of the tournament. That particular instance was the closest we were to launching on our scheduled announcement date. Again, I can assure you that the announcements will appear throughout Blizzard sites on August 1st. Would I go to such lengths and continuously say that if I was making it up? Yes. | ||
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NeSE
United States87 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:19 GGzerG wrote: I don't think Blizzard would work with anyone who can't even use paragraphs correctly, that right there is the icing on the cake. Very true. I must admit this influx of posts has left me somewhat flustered and my grammatical structure is lacking because of it. I will continue to work on my text appearance, no sarcasm involved, you are 100% correct. | ||
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NeSE
United States87 Posts
Well if someone would lie I certainly cannot speak for them. I myself am a member of an organization and I am representing an entity far larger than just me. So, it would not be in my best personal interest to implore any fictitious remarks especially not in a public setting. | ||
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Kuchcio
United States18 Posts
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NeSE
United States87 Posts
On July 22 2011 10:08 Magrath wrote: For something that is 16 months in the making you think you'd have the foresight to double check all information on your website to make sure it's relevant. What's another few day delay on the announcement to check. It's a really innovative system to run the tournament with but you are botching the presentation and making yourself look like a scam. I hope this is legit as it has great potential. What would you have done differently? I understand this is text so sometimes truth can be mistaken for sarcasm. I will never post anything sarcastically and I genuinely value your opinion. What would you have done differently than what we had done Magrath? | ||
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G2Wolf
United States261 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:37 Kuchcio wrote: NeSE why in the world would you change the name of the organization within few months? Also can you explain all the pornographic links on your guys old site on the forum? I don't think legit website would allow pornographic links on their website and allow even 13 year old see that..... Not to mention the legal actions that could easily occur from this, such as fines or arrests. | ||
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NeSE
United States87 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:37 Kuchcio wrote: NeSE why in the world would you change the name of the organization within few months? Also can you explain all the pornographic links on your guys old site on the forum? I don't think legit website would allow pornographic links on their website and allow even 13 year old see that..... We elected to change the name because we had experienced some internal transitions and a new name was the best route for us to purse. Regarding the pornographic postings you mentioned, I just visited the site myself and saw what you were referring too. That site has been shut down since the beginning of May and I have not had any dealings with that domain since then. Though it is clear it needs to be taken down entirely, which I will accomplish tomorrow, we did not expect to receive feedback regarding the old event. Believe me when I tell you I was pretty surprised to see anyone even mention the old name because we had a total of 300 hits to that web site in the month it was operational and those hits were from the programmers, designers and other employees. To be honest I wish I had known people actually knew about The Gaming World Series, we would have fought harder to preserve the name. | ||
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NeSE
United States87 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:41 G2Wolf wrote: Not to mention the legal actions that could easily occur from this, such as fines or arrests. I am not sure what you are referring to. What legal actions could occur and from what? If you are referring to the legal changing of the tournament name that is a very simple process. The NeSE is a subsidiary under a corporate umbrella, to change the name or anything about a subsidiary is a fairly quick and easy process. You must also remember it was not OUR decision to change the name of the tournament so that also made the changing easier. If you are referring to the pornographic posts all I can say is we will be removing that web site as soon as possible. | ||
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ES_JohnClark
United States1121 Posts
It may be a good idea to introduce yourself.. tell these fine folks on the TL thread who you are.. and what your background in eSports is. I am very curious myself. I was one of the first to see this as a scam.. but I am more then willing to listen. The idea of a 'bunch of 4 participant brackets'.. is a good idea. Although not new.. it has not been used a lot. I personally have advocated for a similar structure in the past.. but as you can see.. its like herding kittens to get people to jump on board. However, in this case.. I think most of us here are more skeptical of your organization then anything. I personally do not think you have to have 'top names' supporting this for it to be real. (that's another rant on my part for another day!!).. so I guess what I would like to hear .. is a bit more about you. It does come off as odd that your responses are so well written..but with little spacing.. just odd.. not sure why it bugs me.  | ||
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Kuchcio
United States18 Posts
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pHaRSiDE
United States752 Posts
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jobebob
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crojar
United States59 Posts
Enough about the tournament, you wanting feedback, etc. | ||
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NeSE
United States87 Posts
Kuchcio, on our end it was not an "out of nowhere" up and leaving and to be honest we did not make any formal announcements and based on our web analytics we assumed no one had even heard of us yet. So, to just continue forward and remove that event and start with a fresh design seemed to be the best route to move in. Until posting this sponsored thread no one had even mentioned The Gaming World Series, including players who have been affiliated with our organization from Day 1. The old web site and those crude posts throughout the forum were all things I was unaware of. That web site is hosted through a different design company and I will have it taken down immediately now the the appropriate light has been shed. csn_JohnClark, Please let me begin by saying how much I appreciate you! I did go into some brief general descriptions about our organization in previous posts, unfortunately there is not much else to say. We have been putting this particular event over the last 16 months and our first scheduled launch date was September 1, 2010. We have encountered many obstacles throughout this process and being completely new to this aspect of eSports we took it on as it came to us. That is why we made the decision to take as much time as we could to fully develop this event as it was clear there are many aspects we are unaware of. We are now in a full ready position to launch our event and we are still working on some major strides internally regarding future assets of our event. Our number priority is taking in as much feedback from the community as possible and continue to adapt, add or change anything we can to fit the needs of the population. We have already sponsored an Open Qualifier event with z33k.com that went very well where sixjaxDDE was the first place winner. ONEKyhol from ItsGoSu eSports also received a free entry pass into the NeSE and everyone who participated in that qualifier can vouch our legitimacy. We are also sponsoring a tournament with ItsGoSu eSports that was finalized this afternoon and is scheduled for August 3rd and 4th. To be honest, we absolutely expected a certain type of initial feedback but we did not believe people would be as harsh as others had said they would. Clearly the reputation of the gaming community stands tall and firm as usual. | ||
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NeSE
United States87 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:59 jobebob wrote: Classic pyramid scheme. For every person that makes it to the 6th round (getting first in a 4096 man tourney) they (Ne-Se) make around $40,000. The best part about this is that they don't need to do anything; they don't even need to have the players go a full 6 rounds or any amount of rounds for that matter, to make a profit. Everything is automated! I have absolutely no idea how you arrived at this conclusion but the truth of this matter has been explained in several topics in several ways at this point. | ||
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