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Sterling
Profile Joined December 2009
United States182 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 21:27:22
July 21 2011 21:11 GMT
#21
It could be a scam. I paid TWICE for my registration and am still directed to the "pay now" screen. Be careful...

Edit: I called "customer service" and my money was refunded.

I was told it was a "pre-registration"' stage and I would receive a confirmation email as well as access to the website in a week. The whole thing seems hastily put together, to me.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
July 21 2011 21:11 GMT
#22
On July 22 2011 05:39 Genie1 wrote:
Uh your map pool is awful seriously get a new map pool or else everyone will be wasting there time with this tournament. If anyone is wondering what there map pool is here it is.

The maps for 1vs1 include:
Agria Valley
Blistering Sands
Delta Quadrant
Desert Oasis
Jungle Basin
Kulas Ravine
Lost Temple
Metalopolis
Scrap Station
Steppes of War
Xel'Naga Caverns


Where did you see the map pool list?
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TheTrueAmerican
Profile Joined April 2011
United States132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 21:23:27
July 21 2011 21:21 GMT
#23
the website background has nazgul from lotr on it

also to the people complaining about the $20 fee. look at the prize breakdown per round first. if you win your first round match you get your money back...

Round 1- $20
Round 2- $40
Round 3- $80
Round 4- $160
Round 5- $320
Round 6- $640
Round 7 (Round Robin)- $1,280
PantsB
Profile Joined January 2011
United States77 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 21:35:31
July 21 2011 21:31 GMT
#24
Well this doesn't make any sense. Each round is 4 people with 1 advancing. Then the 6th round is 50 people?? In order for that to work mathematically, you'd need

4^5 * 50 entries.... you're not getting in the same area code as 50,000+ entries with a $20 entry fee. Even without you're not getting 50,000 entries.

If you took out that idea so it was 4^6 entries you'd have 4096 spots to fill.... which is conceivable. It would also give you a profit margin (without taking anything but prize pool into account) of ~ $81920 in entry fees - $40320 prize payout = $41600.... which is a profit margin even the casinos would drool over. (ed and obviously if they got the 50K they'd need for the writeup to make sense it'd be 1,000,000 in entry fees....)

Even with a big main event, if it got to that, 40K * 4 = 160000 - 52K in grand prize = over $100K in profits for very little investment overall.

Honestly it feels at best like a scam and I wouldn't feel confident that I'd actually get paid.

It also skirts pretty damn close to anti-gambling laws in the US. IANAL but usually you can't have an entry fee, compete in a game and then get cash prizes as I understand it.
JLew
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada353 Posts
July 21 2011 21:35 GMT
#25
Is this legal?

And does Blizzard allow this?

Map pool?

Seems like a good idea but so many concerns would should have with this as it sits..
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Genie1
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada333 Posts
July 21 2011 21:36 GMT
#26
On July 22 2011 06:11 TheRealNanMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:39 Genie1 wrote:
Uh your map pool is awful seriously get a new map pool or else everyone will be wasting there time with this tournament. If anyone is wondering what there map pool is here it is.

The maps for 1vs1 include:
Agria Valley
Blistering Sands
Delta Quadrant
Desert Oasis
Jungle Basin
Kulas Ravine
Lost Temple
Metalopolis
Scrap Station
Steppes of War
Xel'Naga Caverns


Where did you see the map pool list?


http://ne-se.com/sc2/rules

Here you go :D
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Saishuuheiki
Profile Joined November 2010
United States188 Posts
July 21 2011 21:38 GMT
#27
I do wonder what happens if they don't get enough people to fill the brackets as well.

I know a lot of people would think they have a good chance of winning their first group of 4, which would get your money back, but what if there are less rounds due to less participants?

If only 64 people sign up (I believe NASL had under 128 with their sign-up fee) does that mean only 20+40+80 goes to the winner with only 3 rounds?
$160 for a $20 sign-up doesn't seem that good


That aside, I think a serious 2v2 tournament would be welcome
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
July 21 2011 21:39 GMT
#28
On July 22 2011 06:21 TheTrueAmerican wrote:
the website background has nazgul from lotr on it

also to the people complaining about the $20 fee. look at the prize breakdown per round first. if you win your first round match you get your money back...

Round 1- $20
Round 2- $40
Round 3- $80
Round 4- $160
Round 5- $320
Round 6- $640
Round 7 (Round Robin)- $1,280


It's not the fact that there's an entry fee, it's the fact that they weren't up front about it. As I stated, I only found out about it when I went to sign up. It is not stated in the OP, and as far as I can see, nowhere on the web site until registration. That's the shady part.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
July 21 2011 21:39 GMT
#29
I like the initiative, but it still needs some more work before its 100% legit and professional. They could start by being more up front with the main things of the tournament (entry fee, maps, dates) and get rid of the person talking on the main page, that is so unnecessary. I hope that there is someone in the TL community that works in this organization so they can properly relay feedback to them as well and the best interests of the community.
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pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 21:44:01
July 21 2011 21:43 GMT
#30
If the tournament is clean cool, but I think you could run into some problems having the finals 1 year away. Maybe find a way to shorten the tournament just a little bit.

On July 22 2011 05:56 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:44 5ukkub wrote:
IMO this smells like some kind of scam...

Those giant dragons on the main site are supposed to be mutalisks? lol

Its obviously not a scam if they got sponsored on teamliquid man.
This is an amazing thing even if there is a $20 entrance fee
Now that its mentioned lets move on.
Put it in the OP is a good recommendation tho.


To get a sponsored thread it just cost money, you don't have to be legit. You are not screened or something.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 21:52:18
July 21 2011 21:50 GMT
#31
On July 22 2011 06:43 pHaRSiDE wrote:
If the tournament is clean cool, but I think you could run into some problems having the finals 1 year away. Maybe find a way to shorten the tournament just a little bit.

Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:56 ComaDose wrote:
On July 22 2011 05:44 5ukkub wrote:
IMO this smells like some kind of scam...

Those giant dragons on the main site are supposed to be mutalisks? lol

Its obviously not a scam if they got sponsored on teamliquid man.
This is an amazing thing even if there is a $20 entrance fee
Now that its mentioned lets move on.
Put it in the OP is a good recommendation tho.


To get a sponsored thread it just cost money, you don't have to be legit. You are not screened or something.

Correct, a Sponsored Thread is more a paid advertisement on TL rather than a relationship between TL and the company or product advertised. On some level we do review the Sponsored Threads put up, but it's nowhere near the process of an official event or team or site sponsor (like TeamSpeak).

Please do not take this to mean TL thinks this tournament is not legitimate, because obviously we wouldn't allow this thread if we thought that it was a scam. We have as much information as the public sees right now.
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NcK
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany51 Posts
July 21 2011 22:19 GMT
#32
Steppes of War.
I would not pay 20$ to get 6pooled :-D
...!
havox_
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
July 21 2011 22:35 GMT
#33
On July 22 2011 06:05 PET wrote:
I closed the website after the woman started talking.

I got a feeling of the year 2000 websites.

And if that is the map pool ... I can not even ... t.a.l.k.

Agria Valley?

<3
only tournament that ever looked less pro/viable was this 100k tournament in Bangkok (what happened to that one btw? ^^).

What ever, gl to who ever pays the Fee :D
PhysicsCat
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)15 Posts
July 21 2011 22:54 GMT
#34
I would join, $20 isn't much, but that map pool is a complete joke.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
July 21 2011 22:58 GMT
#35
will it offer me to install the talking girl on my desktop?
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Davido
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden12 Posts
July 21 2011 23:00 GMT
#36
Really really good website, really good tournament format, its just .... amazing!
GWaLK
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States184 Posts
July 21 2011 23:00 GMT
#37
i talked to one of the admins
he said they've been putting this together for over 16 months

it smells so heavily of a scam
honestly

the amount of ppl they'd need to sign up to cover costs is ridiculous
2 month period of sign ups
2 month period to play games

repeat 3x more

its a scam guys...
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 23:08:25
July 21 2011 23:07 GMT
#38
Wow, this is a super sick format. I actually hope more tournaments do something like this, a very good pay structure. (reminds me of chess, you have to pay an entry fee but you also have a much better shot at getting a small amount back) Although the numbers might not add up now that I'm reading through it more.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
July 21 2011 23:21 GMT
#39
On July 22 2011 05:39 Genie1 wrote:
Uh your map pool is awful seriously get a new map pool or else everyone will be wasting there time with this tournament. If anyone is wondering what there map pool is here it is.

The maps for 1vs1 include:
Agria Valley
Blistering Sands
Delta Quadrant
Desert Oasis
Jungle Basin
Kulas Ravine
Lost Temple
Metalopolis
Scrap Station
Steppes of War
Xel'Naga Caverns


it says LOST temple. That map pool list was made a LONG time ago.
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Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
July 21 2011 23:46 GMT
#40
On July 22 2011 07:35 havox_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 06:05 PET wrote:
I closed the website after the woman started talking.

I got a feeling of the year 2000 websites.

And if that is the map pool ... I can not even ... t.a.l.k.

Agria Valley?

<3
only tournament that ever looked less pro/viable was this 100k tournament in Bangkok (what happened to that one btw? ^^).

What ever, gl to who ever pays the Fee :D

http://thsl.tv/ Starts in a few weeks! lol o.o
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