EPTNeSE: Round by Round Cash Prize SC2 Tournament - Page 17
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Griznah
Norway65 Posts
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PantsB
United States77 Posts
On July 28 2011 00:48 PantsB wrote: Yes. If Blizzard made a blog post like they have for NASL, IEM, Blizzcon or GSL about the Open Tourney it would be believable. Forum posts don't count. Until we see it on http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/search?k=eSports&f=article Its not. On July 28 2011 02:19 NeSE wrote: Okay PantsB, you have yourself a deal. Let see what happens inside the next 3 days? edit so its on Blizzard, I admit I'm surprised. I hope Blizzard has done their homework. I still don't see how the format is in anyway viable. | ||
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sraelgaiznaer
Philippines423 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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crojar
United States59 Posts
I'm not sure what their target player is tbh. I'm decently high in masters and I'd never enter this even if it was 100% legit. I don't think the structure is fair to players or particularly interesting. But that's my opinion. There's just something that bothers me about paying to play an online tournament. I'd happily pay to play at MLG. It's a lan and it's about the experience not about winning. The main issue is I don't play sc to make money, I'm not a pro. So the allure of doubling my money or w/e is not there. Plus I used to play a ton of online poker before it was fubar'd and I'd have to put in significantly more effort to make significantly less money this way. The motivation just isn't there. Look at the NASL qualifiers. Those had insane player pools and a lower buy in. The way the original thread was presented just leads me to believe that this was put together in a hurry by someone who isn't quite familiar with starcraft be it in game or just the status quo in general. (See original map pool) I get that they want to make money, and that's cool, but I think there are better ways to do it. (See IPL) I mean I don't hope it fails, but I'm not gonna just "support e-sports" blindly. tl:dr I play sc for fun, not to make money. TL Open is more my pace. Getting 4-5 rounds in is way more thrilling than making $20. | ||
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NeSE
United States87 Posts
On August 06 2011 03:33 crojar wrote: Depends on how you define legit. There is always going to speculation to the contrary. I'm not sure what their target player is tbh. I'm decently high in masters and I'd never enter this even if it was 100% legit. I don't think the structure is fair to players or particularly interesting. But that's my opinion. There's just something that bothers me about paying to play an online tournament. I'd happily pay to play at MLG. It's a lan and it's about the experience not about winning. The main issue is I don't play sc to make money, I'm not a pro. So the allure of doubling my money or w/e is not there. Plus I used to play a ton of online poker before it was fubar'd and I'd have to put in significantly more effort to make significantly less money this way. The motivation just isn't there. Look at the NASL qualifiers. Those had insane player pools and a lower buy in. The way the original thread was presented just leads me to believe that this was put together in a hurry by someone who isn't quite familiar with starcraft be it in game or just the status quo in general. (See original map pool) I get that they want to make money, and that's cool, but I think there are better ways to do it. (See IPL) I mean I don't hope it fails, but I'm not gonna just "support e-sports" blindly. tl:dr I play sc for fun, not to make money. TL Open is more my pace. Getting 4-5 rounds in is way more thrilling than making $20. Crojar, Let me begin by saying that you are 100% spot on and more people should be about the experience than making money for sure! Unfortunately, in order for you to obtain an experience in today's economy you have to be able to support yourself. In order to get to a point where we can offer constant live competitions that are more populated, high quality, closer to your home and what you would refer to as a Stadium. There are steps in this process but the goal is to provide EVERYONE with an opportunity to achieve that exact experience you are referring to. The first step of which is to show the rest of the world, and especially the US public, that we are very serious, that this sport is a very serious one and that those of us who are not the "greatest players" are the greatest fans a sport can have. You being a high masters player stand a great opportunity not to only earn cash prizes in this event, but to get yourself on the map. This is a big event with a pretty good prize pool at the Finals and if you can compete here, then you know its time to start working a little harder because you have a real shot. The NE-SE is not here to make money and that is not our goal with this event, we have gone through a 17 month process preparing for this so we can continue for quite some time regardless of our profit margin. We are trying to be a part of the building process that esports has within it's grasp to provide everyone with the atmosphere and environment to ensue that incredible experience. | ||
Burpies
Canada409 Posts
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KingGreasy
United States162 Posts
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mavsfan0041
United States306 Posts
 Good to know that this is confirmed legit now. Still not sure whether I'll sign up just because 20 bucks is still kinda big for me right now :/ but best of luck to you NeSE | ||
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Saishuuheiki
United States188 Posts
Seriously...I wonder if there would be even over 20 that sign up for the 2v2 with a $20 entry fee. I think it would be improved if the 2v2 had either a lower/free entry with a reduced prize pool as opposed to the current system. (Although if you want to keep the prize pool high, that would be cool) | ||
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Bonkarooni
United States383 Posts
On August 06 2011 04:15 NeSE wrote: Crojar, Let me begin by saying that you are 100% spot on and more people should be about the experience than making money for sure! Unfortunately, in order for you to obtain an experience in today's economy you have to be able to support yourself. In order to get to a point where we can offer constant live competitions that are more populated, high quality, closer to your home and what you would refer to as a Stadium. There are steps in this process but the goal is to provide EVERYONE with an opportunity to achieve that exact experience you are referring to. The first step of which is to show the rest of the world, and especially the US public, that we are very serious, that this sport is a very serious one and that those of us who are not the "greatest players" are the greatest fans a sport can have. You being a high masters player stand a great opportunity not to only earn cash prizes in this event, but to get yourself on the map. This is a big event with a pretty good prize pool at the Finals and if you can compete here, then you know its time to start working a little harder because you have a real shot. The NE-SE is not here to make money and that is not our goal with this event, we have gone through a 17 month process preparing for this so we can continue for quite some time regardless of our profit margin. We are trying to be a part of the building process that esports has within it's grasp to provide everyone with the atmosphere and environment to ensue that incredible experience. i actually like the structure you've created here. Im personally fine with paying out a bit of money for a decent chance at making some back, it seems cool. The map pool though man...Please...don't do that to us x.x | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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SidianTheBard
United States2474 Posts
On August 06 2011 04:36 KingGreasy wrote: A couple weeks of bashing and the NeSE guy continues to persist and respond to the community. That deserves respect. So True. I don't play ladder games enough to care to enter into a tournament, but GL with this and I hope all goes well. Also I'm pumped you guys are using some MoTM maps in your pool, spices some things up.  | ||
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NeSE
United States87 Posts
On August 06 2011 05:19 Saishuuheiki wrote: While I like the idea of there being a serious 2v2 tournament...I worry that the $20 entry will dull it. I don't know if there are enough serious 2v2 players to have a significant number of real good 2v2 players, and with such a high entry I ave my doubts when it comes to people signing up for it. Seriously...I wonder if there would be even over 20 that sign up for the 2v2 with a $20 entry fee. I think it would be improved if the 2v2 had either a lower/free entry with a reduced prize pool as opposed to the current system. (Although if you want to keep the prize pool high, that would be cool) Just to reassure you we actually do have over 20 registrations for 2v2 right now and we are hoping more do elect to participate. Also, we did everything we could with the 2v2 to make it even more appealing by splitting the entry fee between the teammates. It takes away from the prize pool a bit but, as I've said before, the more people that can be involved the better especially regarding 2v2 and its current stand point in competitive SC2 eSports. Ultimately the best case scenario is no entry fee at all and we are continuing to work forward towards that goal. Register as a Guest on the NE-SE SC2 site and that will keep you updated regarding the status of things like that. Thank you everyone for your support, I speak on behalf of everyone at NE-SE when I say it is greatly appreciated. A great deal of time, effort and finances have gone into this project and our sole purpose is providing to gamers just like yourselves. We have a lot of cool updates and additions in store so definitely stay tuned, some re-designs and new features will be published in upcoming weeks. You will also be able to find a live link to all NE-SE Sponsored or Hosted streams on the main page of www.ne-se.com. So, if you are interested in viewing some broadcasts check the site on August 6th, 10th and 11th. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
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kedinik
United States352 Posts
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Niick
Australia426 Posts
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NeSE
United States87 Posts
On August 06 2011 14:43 kedinik wrote: I'm pretty sure a Blizzard post just means they paid a licensing fee to Blizzard, not that Blizzard investigated their finances -_- In order to host a StarCraft II tournament or any tournament involving a Blizzard Entertainment game that features an entry fee requires a specific type of contract. It is not a regular licensing agreement that you can acquire to host an open even with 1-3 prize amounts with no entry fee. One of the steps of this specific agreement with Blizzard Entertainment is Proof of Funds. | ||
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cheeseheadlogic
United States322 Posts
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kevinmon
United States540 Posts
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