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Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 02 2011 16:28 GMT
#281
Not even sure why this has stayed open when the tournament format itself has proven to be a money making scheme, it was such a blatant scam, who expected a different outcome?
NeSE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States87 Posts
August 02 2011 17:42 GMT
#282
It is not our intention to appear silent, we made a post on our Facebook page last night, the situation is unfortunate but out of our hands. The Blizzard announcements will be made shortly. A Blizzard representative was going to contact Team Liquid to have them post on Blizzard's behalf in this thread, but that is a lot of work with no real purpose. The announcements will go out, again this is not an issue the NeSE is responsible for. Blizzard has a lot going on and this is just how the chips fell in this situation. We assure you the posts will be made, the only reason I have not been replying to everyone's post here is because we feel there is no point until Blizzard makes an announcement. It is clear some of you are legitimately looking forward to this though and for those of you that are, this post is for you.

Thank you.
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 18:14:39
August 02 2011 18:13 GMT
#283
On August 03 2011 02:42 NeSE wrote:
It is not our intention to appear silent, we made a post on our Facebook page last night, the situation is unfortunate but out of our hands. The Blizzard announcements will be made shortly. A Blizzard representative was going to contact Team Liquid to have them post on Blizzard's behalf in this thread, but that is a lot of work with no real purpose. The announcements will go out, again this is not an issue the NeSE is responsible for. Blizzard has a lot going on and this is just how the chips fell in this situation. We assure you the posts will be made, the only reason I have not been replying to everyone's post here is because we feel there is no point until Blizzard makes an announcement. It is clear some of you are legitimately looking forward to this though and for those of you that are, this post is for you.

Thank you.


Believe it when we see it..
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 02 2011 18:15 GMT
#284
It's so obvious at this point...
SMD
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada627 Posts
August 02 2011 18:17 GMT
#285
Are they're updates on how many people have signed up so far? how many 1v1/2v2 teams as well?

Just curious to see how many players are signed up, or actually waiting to hear from blizzard.

Also, have someone from blizzard posting here won't get people off your back. It will have to be somewhere on the official blizzard website, or people just simply believe it, its too easy to create new accounts.
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
August 02 2011 18:21 GMT
#286
Wow amazing web!
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
August 02 2011 19:09 GMT
#287
On August 03 2011 03:13 LovE-z33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 02:42 NeSE wrote:
It is not our intention to appear silent, we made a post on our Facebook page last night, the situation is unfortunate but out of our hands. The Blizzard announcements will be made shortly. A Blizzard representative was going to contact Team Liquid to have them post on Blizzard's behalf in this thread, but that is a lot of work with no real purpose. The announcements will go out, again this is not an issue the NeSE is responsible for. Blizzard has a lot going on and this is just how the chips fell in this situation. We assure you the posts will be made, the only reason I have not been replying to everyone's post here is because we feel there is no point until Blizzard makes an announcement. It is clear some of you are legitimately looking forward to this though and for those of you that are, this post is for you.

Thank you.


Believe it when we see it..


Don't even bother; this guy is constantly posting about how stuff is "in the works" and "coming" and how we just need to wait; I'm done following this thread. Even if it's not a scam, NeSE so clearly lacks the basic organizational competence to run a tournament of this scale that it's mind-boggling.

What a professional tournament organizer who was in the right would do is:
  • post an OP with all the relevant information, including map pool, etc, from the start
  • if there was any missing information, update the op
  • include a spoiler in the op full of FAQs and address concerns there
  • not get into long, protracted arguments on the thread, but provide evidence, again in the OP
  • generally handle things in a more professional and organized manner.

In the unlikely event NeSE is legit, I hope you take the time to really think through how you interact with the sc2 community-- gamers and esports fan are the lifeblood of tournaments, and you need a good relationship with both to get viewerships, sponsorships, and a sustainable business model.

Peace.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Bonkarooni
Profile Joined October 2010
United States383 Posts
August 02 2011 22:06 GMT
#288
soooo any word on this? I actually dont think 20 dollars is really that much of a scam...Although this whole thing seems kinda fishy.
NeSE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States87 Posts
August 03 2011 00:31 GMT
#289
We apologize for the delay, we have added a feature where everyone can register as a guest on the web site to check out the features. www.ne-se.com/sc2/home -- just click register now and select guest, as always we appreciate feedback. We hope to have a link to a Blizzard announcement before the day's end.
eauxlune
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 02:02:02
August 03 2011 02:00 GMT
#290
It took me three tries to muster up the motive to stay on that site for longer than five seconds with that annoying pop up video tutorial. It seems just plastered on the page and is extremely unprofessional. I know this is a thread about your possible upcoming tournament, but the site is absolutely atrocious. Please use less fonts per page! The graphics also all seem to be taken straight from SC2.. Not sure of the legality there.

Also.. wow.. registration rules that REALLY bother me:
All players must register under their authentic Battle.net account E-Mail address.

I get that you want to be able to report people.. but you'll have character codes and usernames.. If anyone within your organization (or outside for that matter) gets any of the combinations of the email addresses with people's passwords, anyone who uses a password similar on your site to their battle.net account immediately has their account's security in jeopardy.

EDIT:
The National eSports Event is a licensed tournament organizer for Blizzard Entertainment's Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty and no NeSE employee will ever contact you and ask for any private Battle.net account information under any circumstance.

Lol.. but you already have..

In any case: I'm interested to see whether or not this is legit.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
August 03 2011 02:53 GMT
#291
Following my post, NeSE sent me a series of insulting PMs, and he continually fails to deliver, or even update the original post with new information. Until I see otherwise, we must be noodlin' cause this smells fishy, gentlemen.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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SMD
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada627 Posts
August 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#292
On August 03 2011 11:53 Blazinghand wrote:
Following my post, NeSE sent me a series of insulting PMs, and he continually fails to deliver, or even update the original post with new information. Until I see otherwise, we must be noodlin' cause this smells fishy, gentlemen.


Id enjoy seeing the PM's you got, not for proof, just for entertainment value
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
August 03 2011 03:20 GMT
#293
On August 03 2011 12:14 SMD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 11:53 Blazinghand wrote:
Following my post, NeSE sent me a series of insulting PMs, and he continually fails to deliver, or even update the original post with new information. Until I see otherwise, we must be noodlin' cause this smells fishy, gentlemen.


Id enjoy seeing the PM's you got, not for proof, just for entertainment value


Oh, gladly.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From NeSE:
I suppose you believe you are an intelligent individual, based on your in-depth breakdown of the faults of our organization. Here's a question for you; when have you ever seen a company of any kind release a product by telling every single square bit of information about it? What would be left to talk about? 300 plus posts 5,000 plus views on this thread. We thank you dearly for your concern in our ability to effectively market a product. Please note the NeSE organization has spent no money on advertising and only on qualifier events and other tournaments, due to the fact we are ONLY here to bring that entertainment to the public. I look forward to speaking with you again.


Original Message From Blazinghand:
Update the OP in the thread, make it presentable, please be professional, get a real blizz support post, etc. Take all people's criticisms and put them into a big "FAQ" list and address them, add it to the OP.


Original Message From NeSE:
I just so happened to find your post both intelligible, informational and most importantly, emotional. I'm curious if you have ever run a tournament in the past or an eSports event of some kind.


Original Message From Blazinghand:
No, I have not. This is common sense, please apply it.


Original Message From NeSE:
I have a feeling you carry a heavy sense of stubbornness with you. A shame really, you appear to be someone who could be a viable asset.


Original Message From Blazinghand:
Heh, I was gonna say the same about you. Good luck with your "tournament. Make sure to update your thread with the blizz announcement when you get the chance.


Original Message From NeSE:
We will be sure to follow your instructions to the letter.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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crojar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States59 Posts
August 03 2011 03:44 GMT
#294
I thought your post was pretty spot on.

Assuming it's legit, it's hard to get interested in something like this when the organizer has such a bad attitude.

miamibadboi
Profile Joined July 2010
United States27 Posts
August 03 2011 04:02 GMT
#295
On August 03 2011 12:20 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 12:14 SMD wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:53 Blazinghand wrote:
Following my post, NeSE sent me a series of insulting PMs, and he continually fails to deliver, or even update the original post with new information. Until I see otherwise, we must be noodlin' cause this smells fishy, gentlemen.


Id enjoy seeing the PM's you got, not for proof, just for entertainment value


Oh, gladly.

HAHAAHAHAHA you are pretty soft if you call insults. I guess no one has ever trolled u b4.
eauxlune
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
43 Posts
August 03 2011 04:31 GMT
#296
I tried to contact some of the emails on the website. It seems that none of them actually exist.
Baby_Seal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 07:57:10
August 03 2011 07:56 GMT
#297
I think me and a lot of other people reading this are at the point where we're not going to be convinced until we have a Blizzard Representative make an announcement about it.

Unfortunately, first impressions are often lasting impressions. NASL has done a pretty good job with their organization (especially more lately), but a poor first impression has generated a legion of NASL haters that probably aren't going to go away for a long time, regardless of how well the NASL performs as an organization. I hope NeSE can avoid the same pitfall.

Anyway, I do hope this whole thing is legitimate. I certainly want it to be, though to be frank, it sounds like its goals may be too ambitious to be realistically attainable in the near future, assuming that it is legitimate.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
August 03 2011 08:05 GMT
#298
On August 03 2011 04:09 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 03:13 LovE-z33k wrote:
On August 03 2011 02:42 NeSE wrote:
It is not our intention to appear silent, we made a post on our Facebook page last night, the situation is unfortunate but out of our hands. The Blizzard announcements will be made shortly. A Blizzard representative was going to contact Team Liquid to have them post on Blizzard's behalf in this thread, but that is a lot of work with no real purpose. The announcements will go out, again this is not an issue the NeSE is responsible for. Blizzard has a lot going on and this is just how the chips fell in this situation. We assure you the posts will be made, the only reason I have not been replying to everyone's post here is because we feel there is no point until Blizzard makes an announcement. It is clear some of you are legitimately looking forward to this though and for those of you that are, this post is for you.

Thank you.


Believe it when we see it..


Don't even bother; this guy is constantly posting about how stuff is "in the works" and "coming" and how we just need to wait; I'm done following this thread. Even if it's not a scam, NeSE so clearly lacks the basic organizational competence to run a tournament of this scale that it's mind-boggling.

What a professional tournament organizer who was in the right would do is:
  • post an OP with all the relevant information, including map pool, etc, from the start
  • if there was any missing information, update the op
  • include a spoiler in the op full of FAQs and address concerns there
  • not get into long, protracted arguments on the thread, but provide evidence, again in the OP
  • generally handle things in a more professional and organized manner.

In the unlikely event NeSE is legit, I hope you take the time to really think through how you interact with the sc2 community-- gamers and esports fan are the lifeblood of tournaments, and you need a good relationship with both to get viewerships, sponsorships, and a sustainable business model.

Peace.


i'm with this guy, tbh. kind of over this thread. was amusing for a time.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Nimla
Profile Joined August 2011
35 Posts
August 03 2011 19:30 GMT
#299
Anyway, Is this where I advertise a tournament that requires money to enter, that has fucking horrible website design, horrible production value, with several sites WITH THE SAME DESIGN. And an attitude from the one of the owners?

Seems like we know our answer guys. This shit's obviously a scam. Too good to be true? It is!

It baffles me why It's GoSu and SKGaming advertises for these guys, I guess money talks for anyone, no matter how horribly these guys are and will kill esports.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
August 03 2011 19:36 GMT
#300
On August 04 2011 04:30 Nimla wrote:
Anyway, Is this where I advertise a tournament that requires money to enter, that has fucking horrible website design, horrible production value, with several sites WITH THE SAME DESIGN. And an attitude from the one of the owners?

Seems like we know our answer guys. This shit's obviously a scam. Too good to be true? It is!

It baffles me why It's GoSu and SKGaming advertises for these guys, I guess money talks for anyone, no matter how horribly these guys are and will kill esports.


If this tournament were legit and well-run, it would be GREAT for esports. I wouldn't hate on GoSu or SKGaming, they may not have done the same in-depth investigation we did-- and on the surface, this seems legit. Anyone can make a mistake.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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