EPT[GSL] July Code A Finals - Page 36
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chatuka
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Eurekastreet
1308 Posts
On July 18 2011 19:01 enigamI wrote: just tuning in, can i get a one comment summary? 4 gate vs 4 gate, 4 gate wins : 2-2. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 18 2011 19:02 L3g3nd_ wrote: with buildings at ramp so you can FF zealots that are warped in, i think you can hold a well done 4gate, but its hard. And @homestory comment, thats partly because both players went 1gate tech, we didnt see any 1gate tech v straight up 4gate Pretty much. No one like playing 4gate, so when both you and your opponent mutually agree to not 4gate then things open up and become interesting. But make no mistake, 4gate is still the standard strategy. I'm totally stealing puzzles build in game 3 tho ^_^ | ||
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branflakes14
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
On July 18 2011 19:00 phyren wrote: I think it's just Tassadar. Essentially suiciding those first units to get the pylon in the main seem very strong. However, it means that he basically auto-loses if puzzle also 4 gates. If he didn't go so aggressive and tried to save the initial 2 until warp ins, then a number of non 4 gate builds would be viable. Indeed that suicidal attempt was really dumb in my opinion. A good way to play it off imo is just retreat if you see the 4 gate, get a second gas, add a couple probes, and go heavier stalker. The only problem there is, if they choose to play more greedy theyľl go for blink and youľl die. I dont think he could retreat though because he assumed that Puzzle had a proxy pylon. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On July 18 2011 19:00 Dommk wrote: No it isn't. People only 4gate non-stop if they feel they are the inferior player. There isn't much one person can do when the other side is dedicating to the 4gate, but it isn't significantly harder to defend. That's the point. The safest way to defend a 4gate is to 4gate yourself, because holding 4gates with anything less can be very fragile. | ||
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Umpteen
United Kingdom1570 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
I said Non-stop. In a BoX you usually have some variation, i.e Blink. There really isn't any other reason to not go blink from opening 4gate unless you feel you are inferior | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On July 18 2011 19:03 chatuka wrote: yup every game will be 4 gate. this will be the shortest finals ever. Shortest Code A finals you mean...there have been some very very quick Code S finals. | ||
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Kiyo.
United States2284 Posts
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
they dont suck, they got here through playing good. Their pvp though isnt really up to snuff. Watch a pvp with naniwa, mc or huk playing a similarly good player and you will be blown away when comparing it to what we are watching now. | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
Some people think a 6 min game with 1 attack is more enjoyable than a 30 min game with 10 attacks, 5 harassments, tech switches and swings in the lead are bland. Still think PvP is indeed the worst matchup. Between two really good players its good, between the rest it's just as Wolf is talking about now: zealot + stalker + probe vs zealot + stalker + probe | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On July 18 2011 19:02 Krehlmar wrote: Tassadar is doing the MC build; Do anything to win, who cares if it bores the audience ? Yeah he might get to Code S but I sure as hell won't be cheering him on when he gets there... find me ONE player that would do an "entertaining" match over a winning match in an important finals. Its not like hes being a dick. i want to see players going 100% to win, not going 80% but being slightly more "entertaining" Also the micro in these matches has been very entertaining, if you dont like it, thats your loss. | ||
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Invadris
United States164 Posts
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Dragonmaster26
Australia311 Posts
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s3183529
Australia707 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
On July 18 2011 19:04 Kiyo. wrote: Wolf ranting at you PvP haters lol The man speaks the truth dammit ! Its hard... doesnt mean its good  | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
We just want something to go late game for once. Or at least more than 10 minutes. | ||
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Metaltoss
France781 Posts
On July 18 2011 19:03 doffe wrote: I dont think many will agree to this. ZvZ is alot more exiting then this, atleast when its only 4gate all the time. ZvZ goes to lategame ALOT more often then PvP. TvT bland? TvT is an awsome MU, it has soooo many different viable openings. Sure, lategame is mostly tanks until the BC transition but still, alot more variety then PvP. TvZ is a matchup that have brought us an ridicolous amount of epic games, cant see how this is depressing in any way. PvT is probably the best, this I agree on. PvZ aswell has tons of awsome games under its belt, PvP has 80% 4gates and it gets old quickly. Can we all just agree that we have different opinions instead of posting rebuttals to troll posts? Some enjoy PvP, some don't. End of story. | ||
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Fenrir-Vice
United States123 Posts
On July 18 2011 19:04 Kiyo. wrote: Wolf ranting at you PvP haters lol you mean the 4gate haters? | ||
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