MLG Live 4th of July Broadcast with SoTG - Page 66

On July 05 2011 09:52 A Wet Shamwow wrote:

no quake and halo are two very different games.

On July 05 2011 09:51 Quesa wrote:


Sort of. It would be the same logic if you played SC2 with a Wii controller.

On July 05 2011 09:48 Charger wrote:


Is the typical game mode 1v1? Or if I played it and joined a game would it be 4v4 or what is the standard gameplay mode?

On July 05 2011 09:50 50mineral wrote:
also if you wouldnt aware of that, rapha is the flash of quake games who became overly dominant just a few years ago

http://steelseries.com/gaming/teams/sk-gaming/player-interviews/1on1-with-rapha

I'm new to quake live can someone tell me do the players see those armor and megahealth timers on the side or is it like an obersever thing?

On July 05 2011 09:56 Dogbert wrote:
I'm new to quake live can someone tell me do the players see those armor and megahealth timers on the side or is it like an obersever thing?

On July 05 2011 09:41 kwizach wrote:
Since I see some people asking questions I've already given an answer to, let me c/c what I wrote earlier in the thread:

Just to give a little bit more information to people not familiar with quake:

The players cannot see the timers you see on the left of your screen. The yellow armors (50 armor points each) and the red armor (100 armor points) re-spawn 25 seconds after being taken, and the 100 health (blue bubble) re-spawns 35 seconds after being taken. The players must mentally calculate when these items will spawn next in order to take them/prevent their enemy from taking them, since having more health & armor than your opponent obviously puts you in a much better position during fights in which damage is exchanged. Players often try to delay some items when they're sure to get them in order to mess the timings of their opponents. That's why a player will often try to get somewhat close to an item even if they can't challenge their enemy for it - they still need to know when the said item has been picked up so they can calculate when it will spawn next. Players who are in a dominant position also often try to delay major items so that two don't spawn at the same time, allowing them to pick one then move across the map to pick the next one. Otherwise, the enemy will likely check which item the dominating player is going for and go take the other one if it's spawning at the same time.

I'll add a few things regarding the weapons: the three main weapons you're going to see used are the rocket launcher, the railgun and the lightning gun. The rocket launcher does the most damage out of the three when you manage to hit direct rockets, but the opponent can often see the rocket coming and dodge it, which is why it's most effective when you're very close to your opponent. You can also "spam" with rockets to prevent your enemy from entering an area and, say, contest an item (if he does try to enter the area he will take initial damage from the rockets - note that this can also be achieved by spamming grenades or spamming plasma bolts which are projectile that look like blue balls of energy. These do less damage than rockets but are fired much more quickly). The rockets have splash damage, meaning that you will lose health if one explodes next to you (i.e. if it hits the wall right behind you), but you'll lose less health than if it was to hit you directly. Since the explosion will also push your model, players sometimes fire a rocket below their feet while jumping in order to reach higher areas of the map thanks to the added push.

The lightning gun gives constant damage to the enemy as long as you're hitting him with it. It is typically used in mid-range situations where the enemy would have the time to dodge a rocket by the time it would get to him.

The railgun fires individual lasers ("rails") that deal 80 dmg to the enemy (I believe a direct rocket deals 100 dmg). It is typically used in long-range situations.

Regarding the spawn system, be aware that there is a limited number of possible spawns on each map (like in sc2) - you can't spawn anywhere. The players know these spawn locations by heart and usually have a general idea of where their opponent is going to spawn after dieing, since the game selects one of the three spawn locations which are the furthest away from the player who made the kill (if I'm not mistaken).

On July 05 2011 09:56 Lokj wrote:


would've guessed that you'd be from the US, but no. Afaik rapha has good competition from cypher and had decent competition from Av3k, Cooller and strenx. Nowhere near Flash' stature imo.

On July 05 2011 09:58 Shinobi1982 wrote:
I have to lol at console loving people who defending their precious games no matter what. The gamepad will never be as fast/accurate as a mouse+keyboard combination for fps shooters. With that said the aiming+movement in fps games directly translates into skill if the random factor is non existent. And by random I mean the effective movement+aiming with those thumb sticks.

Now you might want to try something like this before switching full-time to a proper mouse .

On July 05 2011 10:02 leo23 wrote:
So state of the game is starting in an hour am I right?

On July 05 2011 10:02 leo23 wrote:
So state of the game is starting in an hour am I right?

On July 05 2011 10:03 Shinobi1982 wrote:

2h according to schedule.

On July 05 2011 09:30 Adreme wrote:


To me the controller is the better tool for the job. Ive used both and aiming in PC shooters is laughably easy just as it is in console shooters. Once you figure out sensitivity for both you have basically locked yourself in to a mass amount of headshots. I am sure it is odd for a PC gamer and difficult even to use a console controller because it is different and it takes time to adjust to just like going from xbox to ps3 takes a few mins even for an experienced gamer.