After facing an incursion of the ZeNEX team last week, TL Open was faced with the largest Korean invasion yet. ZeNEX, SlayerS, and PSW made their way into the tournament and once again dominated the top rankings. Several members of the Prime team had also planned to play, but only PoltPrime - GSL Super Tournament champion and top three Terran in the world - was able to play.
In the end, it wasn't any of the later wave Koreans who took home the first place prize of $100. It was Hwangsin, who debuted in the TeamSpeak TL Open #16 as the lone Korean entrant, who claimed his second TL Open championship. He defeated ZeNEXHack in the final, who was unfortunate to take the silver two weeks in a row.
Among the 'foreign' contingent, Nerchio, Lalush, and Shadow played well to reach the top eight, but it might have been KawaiiRice who had the most impressive run. He knocked out Korean pros SlayerS_drugbird and ZeNEXNaya in earlier rounds, before being eliminated by fellow American Shadow in the RO16.
Also worth noting, was the not-quite-pro Korean clan PSW. After a poor showing in the previous tournament, two of the team members - Mystic and Phantasm - placed in the top eight.
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uhmm... i didnt know check in closed so quickly... i thought i could check in 15 minutes before so i set my alarm clock at 12.... just as it closed =/ there any way an admin could check me in? =/
Yeah check in was bugged I think it told me players could register until 12 ET and then once that ran up it said I didn't check in. Kinda sucks I was looking forward to it
Checkin must've been glitched..it definitely said we could check in AT 12. Why could we register until 12 and not be able to check in during the 12:00-12:15 time?
On July 03 2011 01:08 TylerThaCreator wrote: Checkin must've been glitched..it definitely said we could check in AT 12. Why could we register until 12 and not be able to check in during the 12:00-12:15 time?
Also 1/5 Prime members checked in...lol
On the page of registered players it said:
Check-in opens: Saturday, Jul 02 5:30pm CEST (now!) Check-in closes: Saturday, Jul 02 6:00pm CEST
EDIT: This is of course for my locale, but should be 11:30, 12:00 for you. Maybe some other page had incorrect info. Sad to see so many people miss check-in (though it happens normally). Especially most of the prime guys.
On July 03 2011 01:08 TylerThaCreator wrote: Checkin must've been glitched..it definitely said we could check in AT 12. Why could we register until 12 and not be able to check in during the 12:00-12:15 time?
On July 03 2011 01:08 TylerThaCreator wrote: Checkin must've been glitched..it definitely said we could check in AT 12. Why could we register until 12 and not be able to check in during the 12:00-12:15 time?
The registration page was fine, but the yellow bar at the top said players could register until 12. I thought it was unusual, but didn't pay attention too much until check in was over at 12.
Just saying so it's fixed in the future even if it sucks not being able to play
On July 03 2011 01:20 ThaZenith wrote: There are way too many streams, can anyone point me to the one that has the best casters? lol
Viewer numbers are usually a decent indicator of the quality of a stream (cast, players, quality, etc.). If you have no idea who to look at just open a couple of the streams with a decent viewer number (this is not to say that the less popular streams are necessarily worse).
On July 03 2011 01:26 zYwi3c wrote: Is there any streamer that will fallow MKP ?
e; Nvm, i guess MKP will play in NASL, so if Polt is playing here, MKP is going to be in NASL S2
Isn't the NASL qualifiers casted from replays? I'm pretty sure I heard Khaldor say that he had to wait for the replays to be sent to him?
All players are playing at the same time ( 19:00 CET -> in 30 mins ). Khaldor casted 2 matches LIVE, and rest from replays, cuz players played it without any other caster.
So i guess, MKP just choose NASL over TSL Open #18
On July 03 2011 01:26 zYwi3c wrote: Is there any streamer that will fallow MKP ?
e; Nvm, i guess MKP will play in NASL, so if Polt is playing here, MKP is going to be in NASL S2
Isn't the NASL qualifiers casted from replays? I'm pretty sure I heard Khaldor say that he had to wait for the replays to be sent to him?
All players are playing at the same time ( 19:00 CET -> in 30 mins ). Khaldor casted 2 matches LIVE, and rest from replays, cuz players played it without any other caster.
So i guess, MKP just choose NASL over TSL Open #18
Alright, I see. Thanks for the clarification . I can understand MKP's choice, they probably talked about it (Polt & MKP), giving one of them the NASL spot, and one of them the TL Open win (Yes, Poltimus will crush! ).
On July 03 2011 01:26 zYwi3c wrote: Is there any streamer that will fallow MKP ?
e; Nvm, i guess MKP will play in NASL, so if Polt is playing here, MKP is going to be in NASL S2
Isn't the NASL qualifiers casted from replays? I'm pretty sure I heard Khaldor say that he had to wait for the replays to be sent to him?
All players are playing at the same time ( 19:00 CET -> in 30 mins ). Khaldor casted 2 matches LIVE, and rest from replays, cuz players played it without any other caster.
So i guess, MKP just choose NASL over TSL Open #18
Alright, I see. Thanks for the clarification . I can understand MKP's choice, they probably talked about it (Polt & MKP), giving one of them the NASL spot, and one of them the TL Open win (Yes, Poltimus will crush! ).
I will be quite surprised if Polt really gave up his NASL spot to MKP. It will be a weird situation, for sure, because if he plans to play the game, it will have to be between TLOpen games.
On July 03 2011 01:52 redloser wrote: btw, i'm pretty sure i saw check's name on the player list, but he seems not to be in the bracket! he didn't sign up or sth?
Only one of the five Prime players, Polt, checked in. There seems to be no reason why, yet .
On July 03 2011 01:52 redloser wrote: btw, i'm pretty sure i saw check's name on the player list, but he seems not to be in the bracket! he didn't sign up or sth?
Only one of the five Prime players, Polt, checked in. There seems to be no reason why, yet .
On July 03 2011 01:47 Ghoststrikes wrote: hahahahaha did anyone else see Incontrol vs OGroyal or something like that?
Nope, was watching Polt, what happened xd?
it was pvz on shakuras, and incontrol did forge FE. He also pylon blocked the natural of the zerg. The zerg just went straight and got his 3rd instead of his natural and incontrol had a probe hidden there, and cannoned that expo. The dude called inctrol "EGCombatex". Incontrol responded by calling the guy "OGnotscouting". The guy then went to try nydus play, but incontrol scouted the spotting overlord before the nydus went down. The guy just gg'ed then lolol!
On July 03 2011 01:52 redloser wrote: btw, i'm pretty sure i saw check's name on the player list, but he seems not to be in the bracket! he didn't sign up or sth?
Only one of the five Prime players, Polt, checked in. There seems to be no reason why, yet .
On July 03 2011 01:52 redloser wrote: btw, i'm pretty sure i saw check's name on the player list, but he seems not to be in the bracket! he didn't sign up or sth?
Only one of the five Prime players, Polt, checked in. There seems to be no reason why, yet .
Probably cause it's effin late in KR
Yeah, it's probably either that, or the check-in confusion or smth I guess?
I'm always amazed how many people play in TL Open although prize pool is, well, pretty much non existent + considering the amount of the players taking part in it + format (bo1 to round of 6?). Even koreans play lately. Must be a really prestigious to win it. Gogo Poltimus!
On July 03 2011 02:13 Asha` wrote: Rofl, Polt just hit a full on 270 degree bio concave with a 150 supply army. That was like, the sickest bio arc I've seen vs a toss ball heh
hahahaha that was just beautiful to watch. what level was the toss? diamondish?
On July 03 2011 02:13 Asha` wrote: Rofl, Polt just hit a full on 270 degree bio concave with a 150 supply army. That was like, the sickest bio arc I've seen vs a toss ball heh
hahahaha that was just beautiful to watch. what level was the toss? diamondish?
Dunno, didn't see/hear if Endrey mentioned. Sounds about right though, was a very comfortable game in every area for Polt.
On July 03 2011 02:13 Asha` wrote: Rofl, Polt just hit a full on 270 degree bio concave with a 150 supply army. That was like, the sickest bio arc I've seen vs a toss ball heh
hahahaha that was just beautiful to watch. what level was the toss? diamondish?
On July 03 2011 02:13 Asha` wrote: Rofl, Polt just hit a full on 270 degree bio concave with a 150 supply army. That was like, the sickest bio arc I've seen vs a toss ball heh
I'm not a big fan of Polt by any means by that was the most wicked arc I have ever seen.
On July 03 2011 02:26 ondik wrote: why all of sudden there are that many koreans playing this tournament (especially at this time)?
Dunno. Hopefully it gets some of the euro and NA pro's out into the tournament and we see some crazy high caliber games. 1024 people.. lotta room for some talent
Rofl @ Polt's last game. The guy played an equal game up to 30 seconds before the finish, he failed a drop and just left the game. Thing is, he could actually come back.
On July 03 2011 02:29 Djagulingu wrote: Rofl @ Polt's last game. The guy played an equal game up to 30 seconds before the finish, he failed a drop and just left the game. Thing is, he could actually come back.
not in a million years, polt was already way ahead before and while he was cleaning up the drop, he also killed the other guy's entire army.
On July 03 2011 02:29 LightWireEX wrote: noooooooooo!!!! i was 1 round away fromplaying SlayerSMin and I got knocked out by a really good master terran!! :< :< :<
SlayerSMin got knocked out by some guy named Prakas anyway.
On July 03 2011 02:29 LightWireEX wrote: noooooooooo!!!! i was 1 round away fromplaying SlayerSMin and I got knocked out by a really good master terran!! :< :< :<
SlayerSMin got knocked out by some guy named Prakas anyway.
On July 03 2011 02:29 Djagulingu wrote: Rofl @ Polt's last game. The guy played an equal game up to 30 seconds before the finish, he failed a drop and just left the game. Thing is, he could actually come back.
as Kalin's old teammate, he is very good but one of the most raging/BM players in europe (worse than Fargo, if you have seen he streaming). Sad but true =/
On July 03 2011 02:29 LightWireEX wrote: noooooooooo!!!! i was 1 round away fromplaying SlayerSMin and I got knocked out by a really good master terran!! :< :< :<
SlayerSMin got knocked out by some guy named Prakas anyway.
On July 03 2011 02:29 LightWireEX wrote: noooooooooo!!!! i was 1 round away fromplaying SlayerSMin and I got knocked out by a really good master terran!! :< :< :<
SlayerSMin got knocked out by some guy named Prakas anyway.
Min beat Prakas, check the brackets.
Oh, I did.. I guess there was an error but I just refreshed and it's fixed now. I got trolled.
If you didn't watch Kawaii vs SlayerSdrugbird you missed the best game of the whole tournament just saying. 50 minute game with every base getting mined out?? wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Let me also mention how excellent Kawaii's game was right there. He play picture perfect late-game against an extremely powerful and well positioned Z player, denying him the last mining base for the win. everything was mined out by the end.
EDIT: SlayerS_Frozen, who took out a code s zerg MvP_viOlet in the last GSTL finals, got taken out by a random zerg player. NICE! I never really liked that guy anyway, I was thinking that he was a below semi competent protoss and now he's not even in ro16.
This might come off a little odd, but I'm kind of glad the Koreans are showing up to the weekend tournaments in the foreign scene. It gives the non-Koreans a consistent chance to actually play against the Koreans and build up that experience. I think that's good.
I don't see why TT1 would let all his gates, robo and core die to the banshees if he does have blink. He can just keep them at bay and blink back when the seige hits to regenerate his shield damage.
On July 03 2011 04:37 PartyBiscuit wrote: I don't see why TT1 would let all his gates, robo and core die to the banshees if he does have blink. He can just keep them from at bay and blink back when the seige hits to regenerate his shield damage.
On July 03 2011 04:37 PartyBiscuit wrote: I don't see why TT1 would let all his gates, robo and core die to the banshees if he does have blink. He can just keep them from at bay and blink back when the seige hits to regenerate his shield damage.
TT1 didnt have blink, he researched only charge
Ah, my bad then, was only listening to commentary and alt-tabbing to see parts.
Nerchio with flawless broodlord positioning, have to say, I've rarely seen a zerg positioning the broodlords in a way that stalkers can't blink under them
On July 03 2011 04:41 Kraznaya wrote: Wait what? Polt won that game?
I closed the stream thinking it was over lol...
Yeah, i wanted to do this too LOL. Polt used his 6 banshees and tanks on low ground to destroy core + 4 gateways, TT1 started to make DTs but Polt pulled his all scvs to his army, and built there a EB + turret = WIN.
On July 03 2011 01:52 redloser wrote: btw, i'm pretty sure i saw check's name on the player list, but he seems not to be in the bracket! he didn't sign up or sth?
Only one of the five Prime players, Polt, checked in. There seems to be no reason why, yet .
Probably cause it's effin late in KR
Yeah, it's probably either that, or the check-in confusion or smth I guess?
Tournament scheduling conflicts. MKP vs Polt NASL, Polt got knocked out. MKP gets to move on to next series and Polt's consolation prize was to play in TLOpen. Check is also playing NASL.
hongun and hannibal not playing cuz of some personal reasons
Min v Hack on Iccup. If anyone finds any other interesting games, write them here, pls. They are a pain to find even with 4 streams open simultaneously.
On July 03 2011 04:41 Jibba wrote: What terrible decision making. :/ TT1 if you read this, why on earth didn't you take a third? There was such a large window.
why would i take a 3rd base vs a marine tank heavy terran? id be vunerable to a timing push
when i defended his 1base push i started getting nervous thinking i was going to win and i made alot stupid mistakes such as getting pylon blocked and not teching fast enought, i should have just chronoed my probes non stop and teched to storm right when i held him off(knowing i would have had the time to tech up) but instead i didnt capitalize on my advantage and played like an idiot by staying on zeal stalkers for way too long, o well shit happens
edit: that being said playing on close air positions is so hard vs a good terran
On July 03 2011 04:41 Jibba wrote: What terrible decision making. :/ TT1 if you read this, why on earth didn't you take a third? There was such a large window.
why would i take a 3rd base vs a marine tank heavy terran? id be vunerable to a timing push
when i defended his 1base push i started getting nervous thinking i was going to win and i made alot stupid mistakes such as getting pylon blocked and not teching fast enought, i should have just chronoed my probes non stop and teched to storm right when i held him off(knowing i would have had the time to tech up) but instead i didnt capitalize on my advantage and played like an idiot by staying on zeal stalkers for way too long, o well shit happens
edit: that being said playing on close air positions is so hard vs a good terran
true, quick blink to kill the banshee's that tryed to flee, and teching to storm, dumping all the overmins in zealots. Still incredible hold though from his first push! I thought you were screwed when I saw the 3gate and him teching to siege mode
On July 03 2011 05:20 Asha` wrote: Poor Polt doesn't seem to be able to react in time to micro whenever an engagement doesn't have a lot of forewarning
Must be frustrating for someone who's unit control is normally excellent.
his micro is decent enough (good splits) i think it's more the time the games are played at that's hurting him
I'm sure that lag may be affecting Polt to a certain degree, but he's certainly not showing his best play either. It almost seems as if he dramatically underestimated Lalush; those Infestors completely surprised him and consequently wrecked most of this marines.
On July 03 2011 05:20 Asha` wrote: Poor Polt doesn't seem to be able to react in time to micro whenever an engagement doesn't have a lot of forewarning
Must be frustrating for someone who's unit control is normally excellent.
his micro is decent enough (good splits) i think it's more the time the games are played at that's hurting him
mm, what I meant was he's got perfectly fine splits when he knows he's about to need to do it, but it's pretty clear that whenever he needs to react quickly it's just not happening for whatever reason ^^
surprised how long he's managing to stay in this game.
On July 03 2011 05:35 zerglingsfolife wrote: Kawaii get's knocked out by allin TT
Kawaii got knocked out by his own incompetency. (Didn't scout, did a greedy opening when he saw protoss was on two early geysers [which rules out an FE for toss]) nice try though. Let me guess, FFs are imba too?
On July 03 2011 05:35 zerglingsfolife wrote: Kawaii get's knocked out by allin TT
Kawaii got knocked out by his own incompetency. (Didn't scout, did a greedy opening when he saw protoss was on two early geysers [which rules out an FE for toss]) nice try though. Let me guess, FFs are imba too?
was funny watching his chat after he lost. all the cries of toss imbalance lol :D
im confused about the schedule. Why are they casting off replays? is it all ready decided and down to just 4 players but they havent actually told which 4? cant they just update the brackets
On July 03 2011 05:35 zerglingsfolife wrote: Kawaii get's knocked out by allin TT
Kawaii got knocked out by his own incompetency. (Didn't scout, did a greedy opening when he saw protoss was on two early geysers [which rules out an FE for toss]) nice try though. Let me guess, FFs are imba too?
They are casting off replays to prevent stream cheating, they'll update the brackets when the games actually have a chance to be cast by a proper casting team...
...not once they've been spoiled by people talking outside of tags about a players fp stream :/
They are casting off replays to prevent stream cheating, they'll update the brackets when the games actually have a chance to be cast by a proper casting team...
...not once they've been spoiled by people talking outside of tags about a players fp stream :/
yea the people who did that shouldnt have.naughty people just as i said that they updated the brackets
could rage so hard, endrey's the only non-justintv stream i.e. the only stream that doesn't lag like dick for me and now i've accidently F5ed that and it lags too
I'm confused by Polt's control against Lalush. I would say without a doubt that Lalush is quite a bit less scary of an opponent than Polt is accustomed to playing against in the GSL setting, yet he loses 5 marines to 2 banes without moving them. Odd
On July 03 2011 05:46 FallDownMarigold wrote: I'm confused by Polt's control against Lalush. I would say without a doubt that Lalush is quite a bit less scary of an opponent than Polt is accustomed to playing against in the GSL setting, yet he loses 5 marines to 2 banes without moving them. Odd
On July 03 2011 05:46 FallDownMarigold wrote: I'm confused by Polt's control against Lalush. I would say without a doubt that Lalush is quite a bit less scary of an opponent than Polt is accustomed to playing against in the GSL setting, yet he loses 5 marines to 2 banes without moving them. Odd
On July 03 2011 05:46 FallDownMarigold wrote: I'm confused by Polt's control against Lalush. I would say without a doubt that Lalush is quite a bit less scary of an opponent than Polt is accustomed to playing against in the GSL setting, yet he loses 5 marines to 2 banes without moving them. Odd
On July 03 2011 05:46 FallDownMarigold wrote: I'm confused by Polt's control against Lalush. I would say without a doubt that Lalush is quite a bit less scary of an opponent than Polt is accustomed to playing against in the GSL setting, yet he loses 5 marines to 2 banes without moving them. Odd
he's got this tho, even bases + even supply = gg
yea forget that lol i think polt has it
yeah totally agree I just didn't think the lag was that noticeably different. hmm, I'm even more impressed by the performance of Polt & co. knowing that
Hadn't watched endrey before. If you read this endrey, no offense, but you might very well be a starcraft illiterate (in other words: suffering from minimap blindness).
0/15 on the strategic calls.
Zooming in on roaches, marines and flipping camera angles during 1 minute counter attacks.
I stayed in the game because i killed all SCVs except 4 in that counterattack before doing my stupid suicide attack into his sieged position. So disappoint.
On July 03 2011 06:17 LaLuSh wrote: Hadn't watched endrey before. If you read this endrey, no offense, but you might very well be a starcraft illiterate (in other words: suffering from minimap blindness).
0/15 on the strategic calls.
Zooming in on roaches, marines and flipping camera angles during 1 minute counter attacks.
I stayed in the game because i killed all SCVs except 4 in that counterattack before doing my stupid suicide attack into his sieged position. So disappoint.
im sure like everyone else was looking at the minimap
On July 03 2011 06:17 LaLuSh wrote: Hadn't watched endrey before. If you read this endrey, no offense, but you might very well be a starcraft illiterate (in other words: suffering from minimap blindness).
0/15 on the strategic calls.
Zooming in on roaches, marines and flipping camera angles during 1 minute counter attacks.
I stayed in the game because i killed all SCVs except 4 in that counterattack before doing my stupid suicide attack into his sieged position. So disappoint.
If you read this LaLush, no offense, but you might very well be very BM (in other words rude, impolite, childish).
On July 03 2011 06:17 LaLuSh wrote: Hadn't watched endrey before. If you read this endrey, no offense, but you might very well be a starcraft illiterate (in other words: suffering from minimap blindness).
0/15 on the strategic calls.
Zooming in on roaches, marines and flipping camera angles during 1 minute counter attacks.
I stayed in the game because i killed all SCVs except 4 in that counterattack before doing my stupid suicide attack into his sieged position. So disappoint.
He has been casting for like 4 hours though, so I think you can cut him some slack. I did see the attack on the minimap, and while I was surprised he didn't, he did catch most of the other stuff in other games. Too bad you attacked into that position, you still had quite the chance. GG's nonetheless tho'!K
On July 03 2011 06:17 LaLuSh wrote: Hadn't watched endrey before. If you read this endrey, no offense, but you might very well be a starcraft illiterate (in other words: suffering from minimap blindness).
0/15 on the strategic calls.
Zooming in on roaches, marines and flipping camera angles during 1 minute counter attacks.
I stayed in the game because i killed all SCVs except 4 in that counterattack before doing my stupid suicide attack into his sieged position. So disappoint.
I saw red Dots in Polts Base and Polt dropping in Supply while Endrey zoomed into Units , kinda well strage ^^.
On July 03 2011 06:17 LaLuSh wrote: Hadn't watched endrey before. If you read this endrey, no offense, but you might very well be a starcraft illiterate (in other words: suffering from minimap blindness).
0/15 on the strategic calls.
Zooming in on roaches, marines and flipping camera angles during 1 minute counter attacks.
I stayed in the game because i killed all SCVs except 4 in that counterattack before doing my stupid suicide attack into his sieged position. So disappoint.
dude, relax i muted him as soon as he said "double barracks all the way" somewhere in the ro64
although he does get props for not using jtv, that shit is unwatchable for me
On July 03 2011 06:17 LaLuSh wrote: Hadn't watched endrey before. If you read this endrey, no offense, but you might very well be a starcraft illiterate (in other words: suffering from minimap blindness).
0/15 on the strategic calls.
Zooming in on roaches, marines and flipping camera angles during 1 minute counter attacks.
I stayed in the game because i killed all SCVs except 4 in that counterattack before doing my stupid suicide attack into his sieged position. So disappoint.
If you read this LaLush, no offense, but you might very well be very BM (in other words rude, impolite, childish).
your reply is to mimic him and you call HIM childish? Uh...ok
On July 03 2011 06:17 LaLuSh wrote: Hadn't watched endrey before. If you read this endrey, no offense, but you might very well be a starcraft illiterate (in other words: suffering from minimap blindness).
0/15 on the strategic calls.
Zooming in on roaches, marines and flipping camera angles during 1 minute counter attacks.
I stayed in the game because i killed all SCVs except 4 in that counterattack before doing my stupid suicide attack into his sieged position. So disappoint.
If you read this LaLush, no offense, but you might very well be very BM (in other words rude, impolite, childish).
your reply is to mimic him and you call HIM childish? Uh...ok
Here it could be said that imitation is an insincere form of flattery.
On July 03 2011 06:17 LaLuSh wrote: Hadn't watched endrey before. If you read this endrey, no offense, but you might very well be a starcraft illiterate (in other words: suffering from minimap blindness).
0/15 on the strategic calls.
Zooming in on roaches, marines and flipping camera angles during 1 minute counter attacks.
I stayed in the game because i killed all SCVs except 4 in that counterattack before doing my stupid suicide attack into his sieged position. So disappoint.
dude, relax i muted him as soon as he said "double barracks all the way" somewhere in the ro64
although he does get props for not using jtv, that shit is unwatchable for me
Guys, when did caster-bashing become acceptable? Especially by players who benefited from the game being casted. Enjoy what you can, or PM Endrey with you constructive criticism.
I liked watching the game, and I thought the zoom-in was cute - useless - but cute. And the last ~6 hours of casting by Endrey were a great demonstration of dedication.
On July 03 2011 06:17 LaLuSh wrote: Hadn't watched endrey before. If you read this endrey, no offense, but you might very well be a starcraft illiterate (in other words: suffering from minimap blindness).
0/15 on the strategic calls.
Zooming in on roaches, marines and flipping camera angles during 1 minute counter attacks.
I stayed in the game because i killed all SCVs except 4 in that counterattack before doing my stupid suicide attack into his sieged position. So disappoint.
dude, relax i muted him as soon as he said "double barracks all the way" somewhere in the ro64
although he does get props for not using jtv, that shit is unwatchable for me
Guys, when did caster-bashing become acceptable? Especially by players who benefited from the game being casted. Enjoy what you can, or PM Endrey with you constructive criticism.
I liked watching the game, and I thought the zoom-in was cute - useless - but cute. And the last ~6 hours of casting by Endrey were a great demonstration of dedication.
i liked the zoom in on the roaches as well, i found it hilarious actually, but i think you're suffering from a little oversensitivity, saying that i muted his stream is not caster bashing.
On July 03 2011 06:36 Mojitsu wrote: This is bullshit. Out of 4 quarterfinal games, there was only one game cast at the same time in all streams.. which is fuckign useless...
Nice post on TL. Different games were covered by different casters at the same time, the last one (probably Shadow's game) was casted by everyone since it was the remaining replay.
On July 03 2011 06:48 Roffles wrote: Oh wow, Nerchio looked much better in quarters when I watched him play.
wasn't the best game i've ever seen from him =p
at least he's being very manner which is a pleasant surprises haha.
On July 03 2011 06:50 Bobster wrote: Nerchioooo
Wow, so many Koreans felled by NA or EU players. Great tournament, TL.
Polt will take this, no doubt. Guy has been on fire lately.
I don't know if Polt will win tbh, his play in the last couple of rounds has definitely started to look more and more as though he was struggling with tiredness.
imo the favourite will be the winner of this series, since Nerchio's very good vs T and Hwangsin has done these for 3 weeks now so he'll have been prepared for the long night.
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ed: lol, guess it was too much to hope for a gg after losing to the 4gate =p
I think that not only does that sort of wall allow archons through, but also if the zerg goes for mass ling, you can rebuild the wall much easier (building another gateway to block, and leaving a smaller space for lings to get into your base.)
On July 03 2011 06:55 anonymitylol wrote: Nerchio seemed to respond really really slow to both of those strats.. might want to use your overlords better?
They see what they want to see. Nerchio was probably desperate to believe Hwangsin was going 3 gate expo.
On July 03 2011 06:58 Focuspants wrote: Lol, Nerchio rage quitting like a raging hormonal teenager again. This guys ridiculous.
How is leaving a game without a GG make him a hormonal rage quitting teenage. You sir are ridiculous to bash a person that hard. He played badly and he lost. He knows that, he's most likely extremely angry at himself and when you take competing seriously sometimes that's all you think about.
I find it quite disgusting that people bash players that hard for "not gging" when they leave.
If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays
On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.
On July 03 2011 06:58 Focuspants wrote: Lol, Nerchio rage quitting like a raging hormonal teenager again. This guys ridiculous.
How is leaving a game without a GG make him a hormonal rage quitting teenage. You sir are ridiculous to bash a person that hard. He played badly and he lost. He knows that, he's most likely extremely angry at himself and when you take competing seriously sometimes that's all you think about.
I find it quite disgusting that people bash players that hard for "not gging" when they leave.
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays
On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.
There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.
Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.
On July 03 2011 07:03 Nevuk wrote: Polt's builds are always so good and hit at great timing.
Polt is such a weird player. He never does anything super flashy or show great micro, macro etc.. he just sort of wins, all the time.
When you watch Bomber, Nestea, MC etc.. you get so many 'how is he so good' moments. You never see that from Polt but he play to win and win he does.
He could've definitely at least forced a lift on the natural, I think he made some micro and strategic mistakes but that was definitely about the best timing he could've hoped for. (Also a few marauders may have helped, I don't think either player made a single one) edit : He reminds me a lot of Forgg, back when he took out pretty much every large name in BW through just timing attacks in that one msl.
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays
On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.
There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.
Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.
Wait so using non punishing build orders (could call them macro) and not using what the game gave you in term of strategies means honor? Might as well play No rush 10 games custom.
On July 03 2011 07:06 baoluvboa wrote: Bitter and TLO don't really keep up with the Korean scene I guess. They didn't mention that Hack is doing very well in the GSTL right now.
I don't know if one match qualifies as doing very well in the GSTL, Taeja got an all-kill as well. Not that it isn't an achievement, but it's still just one match. Lets wait until half way through the season until we can start saying who and who isn't "doing very well in the GSTL".
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays
On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.
There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.
Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.
I don't play Zerg, but I'm pretty certain that it is possible to have 2 overloads positioned around an enemy base. That was a crappy way to go out but I hope you can learn from it (not from me because I'm probably wrong)
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays
On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.
i dont understand why you wrote it tbh
u read him bad thats all he could aswell hide that gateway on the other side of the map doesnt matter....
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays
On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.
i dont understand why you wrote it tbh
u read him bad thats all he could aswell hide that gateway on the other side of the map doesnt matter....
Scouting and reading ones opponent isn't the same thing.
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: I Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go?
Look at sheth, idra, they keep drone in base so long and keep scouting with lings-poke, overlords on gas...
I am just a noob gold zerg but i also struggle with those cheesy protos builds...
it is better to make instead of 6 drones 12 speedlings and be safe, hide them and kill those precious sentries on the way or maybe probe/pylon (when they have no stalkers yet).
evo chamber is a must, just in case too
Congrats anyway, you did in this tournament more than all of nonkoreans
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays
On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.
There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.
Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.
That so-called honor is misguided. Those who think that there is virtue in avoiding one-base play are crippling themselves, by playing just part of the game and not the whole game. There is a difference between those who are learning to play and those at the top of the ladder. When learning to play, there is an advantage in making a tentative agreement not to all-in. The players who have already developed solid mechanics have no use for the agreement.
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays
On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.
There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.
Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.
Lol I guess you're from the idra school of thought of please don't attack me for 15 mins and let me macro up to 200 and then we can fight..pretty please?
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays
On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.
There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.
Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.
pls direct me to this honor based foreign scene so i can stop getting cheesed and 1 based on ladder so much
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays
On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.
There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.
Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.
I'm sorry...but '20 Minutes No Rush' doesn't apply in a tournament.
I also can't tell if you're trolling or being horribly ignorant. A 4gate is a 4gate, if you think foreigners don't 1 base...I don't know what games you've been watching.
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays
On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.
There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.
Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.
Wait so using non punishing build orders (could call them macro) and not using what the game gave you in term of strategies means honor? Might as well play No rush 10 games custom.
That wasn't my point, I think people should play to win.
That was pretty embarrassing play from Polt. His execution was off, his micro was sloppy, his openings were relatively uninspired, he didn't play to the strengths of the maps, and his reaction times were sluggish. Hack was solid but by no means impressive; his opponent hung himself.
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays
On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.
There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.
Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.
I'm sorry...but '20 Minutes No Rush' doesn't apply in a tournament.
I also can't tell if you're trolling or being horribly ignorant. A 4gate is a 4gate, if you think foreigners don't 1 base...I don't know what games you've been watching.
Cheese/one basing is much much less common in the professional EU/NA scene than it is in the Korean scene and as I said above that's not a good thing, people should play to win.
It's so awesome that the Koreans are participating, but it's a little depressing seeing foreigners fall so easily to them. 3/4 Koreans in the top 4 again? ^^
Maybe people will realize just how much harder they have to work.
i am so pissed about these Koreans winning every thing hide your kid hide your wife they are coming to take them all gg plze no re no re ......... and with re i mean rape
On July 03 2011 07:05 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: Somebody tell TLO to stop saying "absolutely". He says it roughly 10-15 times per game, I'm not exaggerating.
Hack lost so many marauders to forcefields! At the beginning just to get his reaper on P base he lost 2 plus one marine, then those 2 scouting marauders, don't even know what he was doing. This is a stupid lose.
This is turning into a rather top notch tournament each week.
If foreigners are looking to test their progress against Koreans, this is the place to go. Seems like TLOpen is going to be the only place you can go to see weekly scrimmages between foreigners and koreans.
Koreans are kicking our asses. I need a Foreigner Hero. Come on, pros!
On July 03 2011 07:32 DISHU wrote: i am so pissed about these Koreans winning every thing hide your kid hide your wife they are coming to take them all gg plze no re no re ......... and with re i mean rape
Maybe foreigners need to start practicing instead of whining or spending half their time casting.
HuK has done very well lately and Idra did well in the past because they both practiced in Korea like the Koreans. If the foreign pros actually set up to practice like that they can compete, in the meantime screwing around casting or generally not practicing makes them look like amateurs half the time.
On July 03 2011 07:42 Dalguno wrote: I played ZeNEXLine.. How good is this guy? I held him off for 21 minutes, but that's all about I can say. (I don't follow GSL)
I believe Line took Jinro, Kyrix and Nada in the Super Tournament and lost 2-3 to Top.
On July 03 2011 07:42 Dalguno wrote: I played ZeNEXLine.. How good is this guy? I held him off for 21 minutes, but that's all about I can say. (I don't follow GSL)
He was the last zerg in the round of 8 in GSL Super Tournament :D
These tourneys really show Koreans determination lol. There are a lot of Koreans participating even though it runs during early morning hours and the prize pool is actually pretty low. I think it's really cool that they'll play in these conditions :D Koreans hwaiting!
On July 03 2011 07:42 Dalguno wrote: I played ZeNEXLine.. How good is this guy? I held him off for 21 minutes, but that's all about I can say. (I don't follow GSL)
The Koreans are smart to play in this tournament. There are not a lot of chances for Koreans to get exposure outside of Korea unless you are some big name that gets invited to the big tournaments.
This is a quick way for lesser known koreans to get their names out there. If you win enough of these, you might start getting invited to the bigger tournies with those free trips to the foreigner scene and the big money.
On July 03 2011 07:48 Aurdon wrote: The Koreans are smart to play in this tournament. There are not a lot of chances for Koreans to get exposure outside of Korea unless you are some big name that gets invited to the big tournaments.
This is a quick way for lesser known koreans to get their names out there. If you win enough of these, you might start getting invited to the bigger tournies with those free trips to the foreigner scene and the big money.
I hope people realize just how many awesome pro korean's there are. Hack wasn't even known and he all killed FXO and people just said how back FXO was for losing to an unknown. Its hard to be known in Korea because getting through the Code A qualifiers is so difficult. These unknown koreans are playing in a team house just like the known ones. They are scary good too.
On July 03 2011 07:42 Dalguno wrote: I played ZeNEXLine.. How good is this guy? I held him off for 21 minutes, but that's all about I can say. (I don't follow GSL)
He was the last zerg in the round of 8 in GSL Super Tournament :D
So hes very gosu
I think his reputation is bit inflated by his result in the super tournament, his win against jinro/nada were because they were not used to his very fast muta in zvt, given time terran should have less problem facing Line.
To quote Trump: Why Pro-toss....whyyyyyy T.T lol I rofl everytime he says this
On my part Im glad most Ps dont go for archons that much....because even witht he bionic I usually use its hard as f*ck to deal with them thank god for EMP :D:D:D
If those vikings had been ghosts... Those archons just looked like colossi, frying all! I don't find they really bring something new to the matchup. Now terran have to decide to do vikings to counter colossi or ghosts to counter archons but it does not really change the gameplay of the matchup from a spectator view.
Third game was a bit like "oh i don't want to go 2base vs 2 base anymore".
Its understandable that MKP chose not to check in given that he just got done winning the champions trophy, qualifying for NASL and has to play the FXO IS for 2k in the morning. He probably just needed a rest, which is why polt probably played because hes not in the FXO tourny. Still would have liked to see him play
Why would hwangsin enter again if he already won another tournament. I guess Hack will probably make it into TSL4 as well...we really need foreigners to step up their game, bein made a fool of.
On July 04 2011 03:50 Frequencyy wrote: Why would hwangsin enter again if he already won another tournament. I guess Hack will probably make it into TSL4 as well...we really need foreigners to step up their game, bein made a fool of.
I believe that the winners of this group of TLOpens are to be invited for an invitational tourney not affiliated with the TSL4 at all. Not 100% sure though.
On July 04 2011 03:50 Frequencyy wrote: Why would hwangsin enter again if he already won another tournament. I guess Hack will probably make it into TSL4 as well...we really need foreigners to step up their game, bein made a fool of.
TSL4 hasn't even been announced yet, I don't believe these TL opens have anything at all to do with TSL4.
did hwangsin cheese 100% of his games? i watched him void rush nerchio, and then 4 gate him and then watched 2 of his wins against Hack, where he went 4 gate robo all in and then where he 6 gated
i was hoping to learn some stuff off him, obviosly not....
On July 04 2011 04:16 ThatGuy89 wrote: did hwangsin cheese 100% of his games? i watched him void rush nerchio, and then 4 gate him and then watched 2 of his wins against Hack, where he went 4 gate robo all in and then where he 6 gated
i was hoping to learn some stuff off him, obviosly not....
On July 04 2011 04:16 ThatGuy89 wrote: did hwangsin cheese 100% of his games? i watched him void rush nerchio, and then 4 gate him and then watched 2 of his wins against Hack, where he went 4 gate robo all in and then where he 6 gated
i was hoping to learn some stuff off him, obviosly not....
Those aren't cheese at all.
Definitely not cheese, but definitely not something you can learn from, unless you want to have a huge repertoire of Protoss all-ins.
But props to him for winning...again. Very impressive. Especially with all the Koreans that played this time.
On July 03 2011 12:27 EliteReplay wrote: where are the semifinals and final replays?
I have the same question. Did these replays go missing somehow? They aren't available for download from the looks of it.
I think they dont release replays for the games where there are vods.
They have always released all replays from past TL Opens, including finals and semi-finals. Can someone who is actually involved in the releasing of these VODs/replays address this issue? Why have the replays from the semi-finals and finals not been released this time? Is there a new policy that involves not releasing those replays, or have they been lost, or have they just not been released by mistake?
EDIT: I looked through the folder with the quarter final replays. This folder actually contains the replays from the semi-finals; however, the replays from the finals are still not included. So, I guess the question now only applies to the replays from the finals (i.e. Hack vs. Hwangsin Bo5).
On July 06 2011 08:06 Quakie wrote: So after PMing Hot_Bid he wrote that since there are VODs of the semis and the finals there will be no more reps from these rounds.
Aww man. All things VODs these days... just demolishing my broadband download limit. Downloading a 50-75 kb replay is so much easier on the download limit. Oh well, whatever. Thanks for the update though.
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