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On July 01 2011 14:14 ProperOne wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:11 Vapaach wrote: Once again, the zerg's answer would have been infestors. Lol is this a joke? he didint have the gas to get the infestor pit or time. But blink stalker or balanced rgiht? So answer is that sheth just isnt as good as puzzle clearly.
Sheth had 1k+ almost at all times :/
Good try by sheth tho!!
Now soon Jinro fighting :D
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I will rewatch this later, stealing puzzle's build, ive problem playing against zerg lately
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I'm so glad I picked Puzzle for my fantasy team, his control is ridiculous; it really makes up for missing out on Puma and having to trade off Hero for JYP.
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Would be awesome if Overlords had their own rally point from the hatcheries =/ Anyway, gj sheth ! No shame in losing against such a good player.
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On July 01 2011 14:14 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:12 Fulgrim wrote: 8 gateways on 2 base is too much production..... It is Im surprised people aren't mentioning this. 7 is barely producable. 8 means one gate is always not producing, especially stalkers. Im guessing the 8 gates are for a fallback plan so that if he fails he can make lean units which you can support 8 gates on. Actually it takes 10 gates on 2 base to support zealot archon.
when you are microing a bunch of blink stalkers its better to have a couple macro gates.
not everyone has perfect macro while micoring constantly.
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Let the man speak, Wolf. Jesus.
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On July 01 2011 14:14 slicknav wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:11 Mephiztopheles1 wrote: 7/8 +2 blink gate all-in is so powerful atm, Zergs really need to come up with an answer for this. wait for Nestea to encounter this. It will be solved then.
Wait for the best Zerg player in the world to counter a strategy every Protoss is doing. Sounds good.
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On July 01 2011 14:14 travis wrote: pooor sheth blink stalkers are so good, the timing it comes puts so much pressure on zerg its hard for them to get, say, infestors
sheth's positioning needed to be better to win, not that it was bad that game
kinda hurts to lose so many overlords too how was his positioning bad when the roachs had to concave like every single time?
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550 APM is around 730 real life APM o_O
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On July 01 2011 14:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:14 Miah121 wrote: I find it pretty funny that Sheth supporters were so happy that Puzzle beat MMA, then Puzzle just outplays him. yea but MMA has pro as shit TvZ and sheth isnt that great ZvT so it would have been even more of a curbstomping probably. He most likely had at least a believable chance vs Puzzle since he is relatively unknown from his TLPD stats and Sheth prefers ZvP over anything. Also, ZvP has lately been favoring Zerg (excluding Dreamhack)
and homestory cup right? (top 3 in homestory cup were toss)
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Anyway is 3 base + 1 in base hatch possible to hold off aggression or the zerg will get too far behind?
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On July 01 2011 14:14 Gorlin wrote: I really don't think Puzzle had great micro, he was blinking stalkers back in big groups and wasn't actually being very efficient with it.
you do that in order to "dodge" the roach shots if you blink back stalkers while the acid animation from roaches are flying, they won't take damage.
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Sheth had the money but lacked enough production to get enough roaches out. Had he been supply blocked less and a 4th macro hatch in his base, he may have held tht. But ppl suggesting infestors and hydras are being silly.
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On July 01 2011 14:14 Miah121 wrote: I find it pretty funny that Sheth supporters were so happy that Puzzle beat MMA, then Puzzle just outplays him. Well Sheths best matchup is ZvP so why shouldn't they be happy? Both of them are insanely good anyway, so I doubt he would have had a better shot against MMA.
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On July 01 2011 14:14 phyre112 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:12 Raambo11 wrote:On July 01 2011 14:11 Karthane wrote: So does Sheth need to have 4 hatches worth of production to hold off this two base attack? Yes BECAUSE the UPGRADES were significantly better for Puzzle, and sheth got supply blocked for a long time which basically lost him the game, he had money but couldnt make units. Sheth got +1, and weapon upgrades for stalkers don't really make much difference. Blink with lol500apm made the push POSSIBLE, let alone effective. It ALL came down to losing those five overlords, at that point with an extra six roaches he'd have been able to finish puzzle's push off right there. Well, his +1 finished after the majority of the fight was over.
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On July 01 2011 14:15 imareaver3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:14 Westy wrote: Why aren't zergs doing speedling flanks against this build yet? He had +1 melee, if he had 20 zerglins run in from behind he would be blinking hurt stalkers into speedlings. He even opened up the back passage so it's not like it wasn't possible! Larva efficiency of speedlings is too bad. He didn't have the extra cash for a macro hatch, and he didn't have the larvae to blow on speedlings. He made a couple of speedlings during the battle (very few though) but charged in from the front when he had already taken down the rocks and could have possibly flanked. (although it might have been a small flank)
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Zerg just needed better decision making and better unit control. Pretty indecisive and shaky defense there
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On July 01 2011 14:15 UniversalMind wrote: overlords should have their own rally it makes me sick when you lose cause your overlords are wondering to their deaths like retards You just need to pay attention on them.... nothing more.
As a pro gamer you should be able to do that.
Its not that tough in fact.
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On July 01 2011 14:15 Goibon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 14:15 travis wrote:On July 01 2011 14:14 Miah121 wrote: I find it pretty funny that Sheth supporters were so happy that Puzzle beat MMA, then Puzzle just outplays him. ...? why is that funny? Because they (like 6 people in the prior LR thread) thought Puzzle would be an easier opponent than MMA.
and who says he wasn't?
sheth was damn close to winning that 2nd game..
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Sheth just used his left hand to shake hands with some guy :\
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