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Latty
Germany567 Posts
Jinro dont take it to hard ! you will come back !! and did anyone of the German viewers note that Bushido Song when the Players were introduced?!?!?! i was shocked ! seriously. one of the baddest musicians in germany with a bad attidude and i have to hear that in GSL code A .. that was a bummer ! | ||
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Polygamy
Austria1114 Posts
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
You forgot MMA, Ryung, Ganzi, Heart, Revival and Line. I really dount Thorzain or Naniwa will win Code A. Thorzain is too inconsistant, Naniwa has a better chance, depends if he plays any Zergs. | ||
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SuperYo1000
United States880 Posts
On July 01 2011 17:13 Liquid`Jinro wrote: People talking about bad mechanics have to realize that when things go completely unlike what you had planned, mechanics tend to suffer. Let me list the things that went completely fuckign wrong game 1: - It started on th e WRONG FUCKING MAP. - Restart on the right map, I forget depot and have to use a calldown (HUGE) - Barracks is supposed to scout for banshee but I fail because I dont know, Im tilting at about the depot probably. - Because of the banshee I cant take my tower, which means I cant control the center, which means I cant take gold, which means I cant just put 2 vikings in each air space and be safe from all counters, which means my ENTIRE GAME PLAN for the map is out the window. Yes, everything suffered after that because I had no idea how to react, because not once in practice did I FORGET A DEPOT AND NOT SCOUT BANSHEE. Game 2 the biggest issue was letting my 2nd banshee die for NO reason at all, which forced me to make a 3rd b anshee, which meant I had no vikigns to protect my banshee..... As for people saying I shouldnt have attacked the mraauders in the hellion sneaks, I dont think you guys realized they were all red HP, because the observer doesnt have HP bars on - but I do. I also couldnt sleep the entire night before this (I dunno when I fell asleep, but Im guessing around 6 or 7 am after laying in bed for many hours) which made things even worse in terms of being able to focus when things didnt go right. It annoys me when people see these games and think its some kind of mechanical deficiency, when what you should be pointing at is the fact that I made retarded errors that lead into terrible situations, errors that are so easy to not make that they are completely unrelated to mechanics. it was bad play, but not because of mechanics, it was bad play because I made mistakes which greatly altered the nature of the game and I had no idea how to adjust for it, nor am I sure I could have in game 1 since the entire build was made for taking tower control. I wanna give a shoutout to asd for being awesomely manner and agreeing to play the other map pool despite not having practiced metal (I didnt practice metal much either but thats still more than not practicing). I have played like 6 TvTs on dual site EVER, so Im pretty happy I didnt have to play it (we were given different map lists, Xelnaga Crossfire, Metal for me and Dual Site, Crossfire, Xelnaga for him, he agreed to play the first list as long as metal was 3rd). Thanks for the clarification. Sometimes things just go ALL wrong dont they. Well dont be too hard on yourself. GG | ||
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sabres
United States23 Posts
 . I know Jinro will be back and it looks like he's starting to get back into old form. Hope he can get some GSTL games to help. | ||
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MeteorRise
Canada611 Posts
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4of8
Germany256 Posts
On July 02 2011 00:53 Latty wrote: and did anyone of the German viewers note that Bushido Song when the Players were introduced?!?!?! i was shocked ! seriously. one of the baddest musicians in germany with a bad attidude and i have to hear that in GSL code A .. that was a bummer ! It is not Bushido it is Fler... just look in the GOM Forum:"09 Player Divi3 : Fler - Du Wirst Gebangt" And I find it nice they play a lots of music from artists most of the audience never heard before. Even if you sometimes have to listen to songs not everyone will like. | ||
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
HerO beat DRG and got knocked out ro32 StC got knocked out of quals by ShinyStar, who in turn played badly against Jinro Puma is a very strong player and someone to look out for JYP? Really? and Sage won a bunch of bo1s, there's no telling how he does in bo3s I still see a strong future for an August foreigner winner | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On July 02 2011 01:44 ptrpb wrote: HerO beat DRG and got knocked out ro32 StC got knocked out of quals by ShinyStar, who in turn played badly against Jinro Puma is a very strong player and someone to look out for JYP? Really? and Sage won a bunch of bo1s, there's no telling how he does in bo3s I still see a strong future for an August foreigner winner DRG and STC have a history of strong play, and amazing playstyles. To disregard them just because of single losses is stupid. Watching DRG play sometimes is almost comparable to Losira and Nestea. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On July 02 2011 01:44 ptrpb wrote: HerO beat DRG and got knocked out ro32 StC got knocked out of quals by ShinyStar, who in turn played badly against Jinro Puma is a very strong player and someone to look out for JYP? Really? and Sage won a bunch of bo1s, there's no telling how he does in bo3s I still see a strong future for an August foreigner winner You're falling into the trap of looking at past achievements rather than future potential... we all know skill levels are not static. DongRaeGu won the LG Special League (when players like Leenock, sC, MMA and MKP were in it). He's not just a GSTL player and is widely noted as one of the best players in Korea. Why do you think MVP always leave him as the Ace player? TheStC has always been noted as a player to watch out for, given his performances (wins in FXO tournaments and strong non-GSL Korean tournaments) WHILE in the army and with limited practice. The fact that he made it to the final round of a very difficult qualification tournament speaks for itself. Also just because Jinro beat ShinyStar who beat TheStC doesn't mean Jinro>ShinyStar>TheStC in terms of skill. It's odd that you claim Puma is a very strong person to look out for when you pretty much downplay TheStC, and DRG. First of all, Puma has been attempting to qualify since GSL2 or 3 and has had multiple attempts at qualifying and never once has he made it to the late stages of the prelims even. DRG and TheStC have had less GSL qualifying attempts but have made it to the final rounds of the prelims. If you bothered to do some research, you would know that JYP won the SK Champions Trophy, made it pretty deep in the LG Special League and a lot of people have been raving about him recently. And I've only watched 3/4 games that Sage played. But judging from the games he played, he wouldn't have a problem in a Bo3. Personally don't see much of a difference between winning a single Bo3 over winning 2-3 Bo1s consecutively. | ||
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
On July 02 2011 02:10 JinDesu wrote: DRG and STC have a history of strong play, and amazing playstyles. To disregard them just because of single losses is stupid. Watching DRG play sometimes is almost comparable to Losira and Nestea. DRG I agree with, he is definitely a strong player in TvZ, I'm not underestimating him but currently he has problems against Protoss. TheStC does have history being a very strong beta player, and he is approaching levels similar to Bomber, sC, and Polt from what I've seen. Again, he seems to currently struggle with Protoss. I mean, sorry if it came out that way but I'm not saying that it's clear as day that Naniwa and Thorzain will STRAIGHT UP DESTROY them but I think that both of them will do well in the GSL. Naniwa is a very strong PvTer and PvPer, Code A just happens to have historically a lot of Terrans and Toss in them and Thorzain has proven that given preparation time he can take down almost anyone or get very close. I think it's fairly realistic to think that they have a chance at winning Code A | ||
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IronSlayer
Canada30 Posts
Jinro, Sheth, Naniwa, Thorzain, SaSe and Fenix. So excited! | ||
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Clog
United States950 Posts
On July 02 2011 02:16 ptrpb wrote: DRG I agree with, he is definitely a strong player in TvZ, I'm not underestimating him but currently he has problems against Protoss. TheStC does have history being a very strong beta player, and he is approaching levels similar to Bomber, sC, and Polt from what I've seen. Again, he seems to currently struggle with Protoss. I mean, sorry if it came out that way but I'm not saying that it's clear as day that Naniwa and Thorzain will STRAIGHT UP DESTROY them but I think that both of them will do well in the GSL. Naniwa is a very strong PvTer and PvPer, Code A just happens to have historically a lot of Terrans and Toss in them and Thorzain has proven that given preparation time he can take down almost anyone or get very close. I think it's fairly realistic to think that they have a chance at winning Code A Saying it's realistic foreigners have a chance is one thing, calling a foreigner winner is another. I won't say you are wrong for being hopeful or for calling such a result, but I'd personally give it a 15-25% chance for a foreigner win. It could happen, but I just don't think it will... Code A koreans are becoming really really good -.- | ||
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
On July 02 2011 02:24 Clog wrote: Saying it's realistic foreigners have a chance is one thing, calling a foreigner winner is another. I won't say you are wrong for being hopeful or for calling such a result, but I'd personally give it a 15-25% chance for a foreigner win. It could happen, but I just don't think it will... I would have agreed with you before Homestory Cup where I saw Naniwa play against MC and win in an intense series. To me, Naniwa represents the potential that a foreigner has before Korea, I'm sure that while training in Korea and training with Moon, the percentages raise by at least 10% (arbitrary number). | ||
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Clog
United States950 Posts
On July 02 2011 02:27 ptrpb wrote: I would have agreed with you before Homestory Cup where I saw Naniwa play against MC and win in an intense series. To me, Naniwa represents the potential that a foreigner has before Korea, I'm sure that while training in Korea and training with Moon, the percentages raise by at least 10% (arbitrary number). Maybe yeah. I think Naniwa is the best chance. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 02 2011 02:27 ptrpb wrote: I would have agreed with you before Homestory Cup where I saw Naniwa play against MC and win in an intense series. To me, Naniwa represents the potential that a foreigner has before Korea, I'm sure that while training in Korea and training with Moon, the percentages raise by at least 10% (arbitrary number). It's PvP. And foreigners have beaten Koreans before (Ret over MC, Dimaga over Nestea) but no one has ever come close to the consistancy required to win a GSL aside from Jinro, and the gap has widened significantly since Jinro was getting top 4. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 02 2011 02:16 ptrpb wrote: Naniwa is a very strong PvTer and PvPer, Code A just happens to have historically a lot of Terrans and Toss in them and Thorzain has proven that given preparation time he can take down almost anyone or get very close. I think it's fairly realistic to think that they have a chance at winning Code A Thorzain has also lost twice to MC since then. And while he's proven he can beat anyone, he's also proven he can lose to players a Code A/S player should not be losing to like Tarson, Hasu Obs, TSL Heart and Ret. It's no use being able to beat one of the big three if you're going to lose to unknowns and foreigners, you don't get second chances in Code A. Thorzain's record against Koreans since TSL hasn't been that great. He's lost to MC 2-0 and 4-2, he lost to July 2-1 and TSL Heart 2-1. Naniwa is a better bet because he's more consistant but he's dropped too many games recently versus Zerg and at MLG/Dreamhack and Homestory he had pretty favourable groups. Still despite his MC and Moon wins, he also lost to Moon and MC at MLG/Dreamhack and lost to Losira too, so let's not pretend he's been tearing up Koreans on foreign soil, he's been doing okay. | ||
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Zyphen
United States258 Posts
SlayersBoxer f'ed up in one finals (2002 I think?) and was in a really bad condition. He didn't sleep well, eat well, and was sick. But he says it was his own fault because half of a gamer's job is to keep his mental and physical condition at their peak. He's not following his own advice right now with the bad shoulder (might be chronic though), but I agree with his view. Do what it takes to achieve mental and physical health. Go to a massage parlour, listen to ambient music, take sleeping pills, meditate, practice yoga, etc. Whatever it takes to get you in your top condition. Everybody has to fight nerves. Everybody gets tense and messes up. The guys who rise to the top might just be the ones who deal with it best. Look on the bright side. At least you don't choke as much as DRG, lol. PS: I also hear Nada lifts weights to relax. Rumor? lol. It might be a good idea since you're so tired, you'll fall asleep quick. Plus you'll have better blood flow with a fitter physique. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On July 01 2011 21:08 BlueSpace wrote: It's terrible if you can't fall asleep although you know that you will need all your energy and concentration on the next day. I've been there and I hate that feeling. You're lying in bed and you try to stop thinking about the next day, but the anxiety just doesn't go away and the harder you try to relax, the harder it becomes to fall asleep For what it's worth, I will keep cheering for you and I hope that next time you will be able to show us your best. Keep Fighting! For me that always happened before a uni exam. For some of us, when we most need sleep it doesn't come. Too many thoughts going through the mind. I read something recently that literally cooling down the brain can help with insomnia. Ah, here it is: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/13/news/la-heb-sleep-insomnia-cool-brain-20110613 | ||
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
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