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ClasH
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany143 Posts
July 01 2011 09:55 GMT
#2481
Im chering for Jinro and I think if he gets mentally strong again he will make it, go practice bro! I believe in u!
Marburg
Aodh
Profile Joined April 2011
61 Posts
July 01 2011 10:19 GMT
#2482
Jinro, even though you were behind almost the entire game(game 1) you put up an amazing fight and your creativity and decisionmaking are at times incredible! Sov, ät och träna hårt så kommer du snart vara på topp!
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 10:21:21
July 01 2011 10:20 GMT
#2483
Either ZenexHack is an up-and-coming player, or FXO...
edit: oops wrong thread. o.o
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
BushidoSnipr
Profile Joined November 2010
United States910 Posts
July 01 2011 10:29 GMT
#2484
Shethro...so sad...
minhbq299
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom566 Posts
July 01 2011 10:29 GMT
#2485
last week result is much better 2-4 but at lease sheth + oz win
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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 10:30:14
July 01 2011 10:29 GMT
#2486
oh no both foreigners lost. :`(((((
keep it deep! @zulison
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 01 2011 10:41 GMT
#2487
Aww
Better luck next time
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Teeky
Profile Joined October 2010
United States84 Posts
July 01 2011 10:50 GMT
#2488
Keep your head up, Jinro! You did some really good things, and I'm confident that everything will fall into place soon. Rooting for you to work your way up again!
Hydras are so bad your opponent wants them to stay alive. - Idra, 2011
okay320
Profile Joined August 2010
18 Posts
July 01 2011 10:55 GMT
#2489
Comeon Jinro, your mechanics/multitasking were definitely a factor in today's losses.

On Xel Naga specifically.. I remember multiple times where you had 3 or 4 hellions that could of killed tons of SCVs, but they were a-moved and wasted time attacking marauders. Lots of things like that.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
July 01 2011 10:56 GMT
#2490
On July 01 2011 19:55 okay320 wrote:
Comeon Jinro, your mechanics/multitasking were definitely a factor in today's losses.

On Xel Naga specifically.. I remember multiple times where you had 3 or 4 hellions that could of killed tons of SCVs, but they were a-moved and wasted time attacking marauders. Lots of things like that.

When IdrA goes on tilt his "mechanics" also go godawful, he can get supply blocked at times he really, really shouldn't. Does that mean IdrA has bad mechanics?
Or just that he tilts?
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
July 01 2011 10:59 GMT
#2491
On July 01 2011 17:13 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
People talking about bad mechanics have to realize that when things go completely unlike what you had planned, mechanics tend to suffer.

Let me list the things that went completely fuckign wrong game 1:

- It started on th e WRONG FUCKING MAP.
- Restart on the right map, I forget depot and have to use a calldown (HUGE)
- Barracks is supposed to scout for banshee but I fail because I dont know, Im tilting at about the depot probably.
- Because of the banshee I cant take my tower, which means I cant control the center, which means I cant take gold, which means I cant just put 2 vikings in each air space and be safe from all counters, which means my ENTIRE GAME PLAN for the map is out the window.

Yes, everything suffered after that because I had no idea how to react, because not once in practice did I FORGET A DEPOT AND NOT SCOUT BANSHEE.

Game 2 the biggest issue was letting my 2nd banshee die for NO reason at all, which forced me to make a 3rd b anshee, which meant I had no vikigns to protect my banshee..... As for people saying I shouldnt have attacked the mraauders in the hellion sneaks, I dont think you guys realized they were all red HP, because the observer doesnt have HP bars on - but I do.

I also couldnt sleep the entire night before this (I dunno when I fell asleep, but Im guessing around 6 or 7 am after laying in bed for many hours) which made things even worse in terms of being able to focus when things didnt go right.

It annoys me when people see these games and think its some kind of mechanical deficiency, when what you should be pointing at is the fact that I made retarded errors that lead into terrible situations, errors that are so easy to not make that they are completely unrelated to mechanics.

it was bad play, but not because of mechanics, it was bad play because I made mistakes which greatly altered the nature of the game and I had no idea how to adjust for it, nor am I sure I could have in game 1 since the entire build was made for taking tower control.

I wanna give a shoutout to asd for being awesomely manner and agreeing to play the other map pool despite not having practiced metal (I didnt practice metal much either but thats still more than not practicing). I have played like 6 TvTs on dual site EVER, so Im pretty happy I didnt have to play it (we were given different map lists, Xelnaga Crossfire, Metal for me and Dual Site, Crossfire, Xelnaga for him, he agreed to play the first list as long as metal was 3rd).



Maybe you already know this, but I feel it's something that needs to be known more commonly: sleep is incredibly important, and sleep deprivation has a huge effect on people (and enough sleep deprivation is incredibly dangerous). A person might feel fine after an all nighter, and after pulling many all nighters throughout their life they might feel accustomed to the effects, but even if you FEEL fine, you really won't be nearly as alert and focused as you would have been otherwise. I took a class at Stanford about sleep and dreams, and the main point they wanted to give us, and for us to give others, was: Drowsiness is Red Alert.

In other words... I want my favorite players to be well rested before they play their important matches.

Also, sorry about the tilt =(
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
okay320
Profile Joined August 2010
18 Posts
July 01 2011 11:02 GMT
#2492
On July 01 2011 19:56 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 19:55 okay320 wrote:
Comeon Jinro, your mechanics/multitasking were definitely a factor in today's losses.

On Xel Naga specifically.. I remember multiple times where you had 3 or 4 hellions that could of killed tons of SCVs, but they were a-moved and wasted time attacking marauders. Lots of things like that.

When IdrA goes on tilt his "mechanics" also go godawful, he can get supply blocked at times he really, really shouldn't. Does that mean IdrA has bad mechanics?
Or just that he tilts?

I think it means he has bad mechanics when he tilts?
Nando
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany32 Posts
July 01 2011 11:08 GMT
#2493
Looks like if something doesn't go as planned for Jinro he is falling apart. Look at the Match against Line of Bel'Shir Beach. Reactor got killed and the game was basicly over or the game vs HungOn on XelNaga ...Jinro wasn't prepared for Phoenix and just had no idea what to do.
Molecular
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway15 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 11:10:24
July 01 2011 11:09 GMT
#2494
Don't think too much about it Jinro. You played beautifully against ShinyStar, so we all know you can do this. And the most important part is you're staying in code A. You just need to keep it cool and make sure you get enough sleep.

Normally when I have a lot of worries and can't sleep I try to think about something that entertains me. Trying to figure out the things that worry you will lead you to just stay awake all night long. My most recent scenario is imagining what I would do if I wake up tomorrow and the world is overrun by zombies. Where would I go? Where would I barricade? Just think about whatever you find entertaining and that you can keep thinking about.

Another favourite of mine is imagining how I would design my perfect game. Whatever floats your boat.
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
July 01 2011 11:41 GMT
#2495
Jinro, when u say "tilt" do u really get that angry and play shitty from there on? O.o i really hope that is not the case cuz that sounds way to unstable to be a player :3
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Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
July 01 2011 11:47 GMT
#2496
Jinro, I hope you won't give up on GSL quite yet. You're in a slump, obviously, but it's not like you haven't got the talent to make it through Code A and back up to Code S.

I hope we'll see you at more foreigner tournaments, though I suppose you've been at a few this year already. Maybe playing competitively more regularly will do you some good. I might be seeing something that isn't there, but it seems like you do have a problem with tilting when something unexpected happens. Maybe you're too used to having everything planned in advance, due to the way GSL works? Maybe not. Just a thought!

Just keep going!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 11:56:26
July 01 2011 11:50 GMT
#2497
On July 01 2011 19:55 okay320 wrote:
Comeon Jinro, your mechanics/multitasking were definitely a factor in today's losses.

On Xel Naga specifically.. I remember multiple times where you had 3 or 4 hellions that could of killed tons of SCVs, but they were a-moved and wasted time attacking marauders. Lots of things like that.

No, they were told to attack the maraduers because the marauders had 10 hp each -_______-

I already wrote this in the thread. It might have been the wrong choice, but it was a micro decision not 'oh im afk'.

On July 01 2011 20:08 Nando wrote:
Looks like if something doesn't go as planned for Jinro he is falling apart. Look at the Match against Line of Bel'Shir Beach. Reactor got killed and the game was basicly over or the game vs HungOn on XelNaga ...Jinro wasn't prepared for Phoenix and just had no idea what to do.

Stupid post - I just followed through with my build vs Line even when reactor died, the thing you should be pointing out is that theres no reason for the reactor to be in a position where it can be killed in the first place - just lift the rax and build the factory in its place and the reactor behind it.

IE a preparation mistake, if you go reactor first and lose it like that of course you should fucking lose lol

HongUn game has nothing to do with 'things not going as planned' - I had practiced against phoenix but I was just really bad at dealing with them at the time. Again nothing to do with phoenix somehow being unexpected...

On July 01 2011 20:41 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
Jinro, when u say "tilt" do u really get that angry and play shitty from there on? O.o i really hope that is not the case cuz that sounds way to unstable to be a player :3

Just a feeling of annoyance at how I wasted an entire game on something so stupid - because Im pretty sure nobody here thinks that Im actually bad enough that I cant play a build past 35 supply without supply capping myself (which is why people talking about mechanics piss me off when I lost because I made a far bigger mistake than that).
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 12:05:43
July 01 2011 12:02 GMT
#2498
on the subject of reactor first it, you kinda have to put your reactor there incase of quick lings, depending on the map size and scouting times. you cant build the rax further back in every situation.

why doesnt blizzard just allow you to rotate the buildings so you can decide where addons will come Q_Q positional advantages are stupid.

on todays topic. unlucky jinro are you relegated from code a now or are you auto back in next season?
pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
July 01 2011 12:05 GMT
#2499
Jinro, come on man, you don't need to defend yourself against these people, you've done more as a player for the community than any other person in the west. We're many that believe in you and know you'll get out of this slump, you just need some momentum (and maybe sleep?)! Jinro hwaiting!
If you can chill.. Chill!
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 01 2011 12:08 GMT
#2500
On July 01 2011 17:13 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

I also couldnt sleep the entire night before this (I dunno when I fell asleep, but Im guessing around 6 or 7 am after laying in bed for many hours) which made things even worse in terms of being able to focus when things didnt go right.



It's terrible if you can't fall asleep although you know that you will need all your energy and concentration on the next day. I've been there and I hate that feeling. You're lying in bed and you try to stop thinking about the next day, but the anxiety just doesn't go away and the harder you try to relax, the harder it becomes to fall asleep

For what it's worth, I will keep cheering for you and I hope that next time you will be able to show us your best. Keep Fighting!
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