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can we please leave boxer-related talk out of this lr thread.
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Sweet fuck some people talk about some dumb things here. Honestly, semantics, architecture? Want to know what a strategy is? Go look it up in a dictionary. Same thing with architecture, (and more specifically, the definition of what is or is not a house...) it's cool, but it doesn't need to be a 15 post discussion in an LR thread.
Meanwhile... Yeah really sad to see MKP back in the up down matches when he is SO consistent at his BO3s. Beating MMA last up down (as did HuK of course), and getting damn far in the super tournament, and surviving every up/down so far, making to the finals of the World Championship...
I'm still gonna keep being an MKP fan until the day he drops out of code A, (never gonna happen tho :p)
Hopefully he can claw his way through the NASL qualifiers, I think he needs to see exactly how awesome his foreign fans think he is.
Shame about BoxeR.
Losira's going deep this tourney I think, only has to take on ToP and then winner of Clide-Trickster. REALLY not that bad all things considered.
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does anyone else hate the system that code S is using?? no bo3 instead but bo1 -_-
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On June 30 2011 00:58 backtoback wrote:
does anyone else hate the system that code S is using?? no bo3 instead but bo1 -_-
We've been through this before.
GSL doesn't have the logistics and schedule to accommodate a Bo3 in the group stages.
However their format is fair enough that it doesn't need one.
BW's OSL and MSL ran with a similar format for years and no one ever complained then. Neither should anyone complain now.
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damn passed out last night ;;
now I awake to fruit getting his ass kicked again. D=
Least Jinro made it :/
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On June 30 2011 00:58 backtoback wrote:
does anyone else hate the system that code S is using?? no bo3 instead but bo1 -_-
It isn't Bo1
You need to lose twice for you to get knocked out.
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On June 30 2011 00:35 lorkac wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 00:27 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 29 2011 23:59 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:51 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 23:45 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:11 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 22:56 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 22:32 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 22:11 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 22:03 NickelMail wrote:
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1 base voidray and DT , 6 gate Blink Stalker are not "Standard" play. When they fail, u lose cause you have no midgame tech. Terran walks down with stim and medivacs and u die. Their variety builds to mix up your play, but korean protoss, and especially Alecia use them 80% of the time. Just watch the last 10 protoss games at GSL, maybe 1 standard game teching to mid/late game play.
Actually, when any strategy fails--you lose. Imagine doing a hatch first and they kill your hatch? Fail. 1Rax FE and they kill your scvs with a drop? Fail. How about a 3GateFE where they kill all your sentries? Fail. Actually any strategy where your main crutch is countered is a strategy that fails. That's kind of why there's usually a "main crutch" to every strategy out there. Open Speedling expand but you don't send out your lings for map control? Fail. Open 2RaxFE but you lose your army to forcefields trying to go up the ramp? Protoss counterattacks and you die. Open ForgeFE (Like Alicia did) and have drops circumvent your wall off? Yes, you also fail. Do you even understand what strategy is? Or are you like Idra and simply pretend that strategies are only allowed if you say so? yes when your "Strategy" fails, you indeed do lose. But you have no idea what a strategy is. 1 Rax FE is not a strategy. 3 gate FE is not a strategy. Opening hatch first is not a strategy. Forge FE is not a strategy. When you know what a strategy is, I'll consider your points, until then, back to school. Actually--you not believing that those opening are strategic choices reveals a LOT about why you define cheese in the way you do  Also, you're wrong. Not even "opinion wise" (which you also are) but you are factually wrong in this case It's actually pretty funny how you're acting right now lol On the bright side, I now understand why you've been saying such silly things on this thread. Thats a bunch of goblygook. An opening is not a strategy, LOL. Its like saying a foundation is a house. It isn't. And all the smiley faces in the world aren't going to make it so. A foundation is a part of the house... It's actually the most important part... It's actually the most ridiculously important part of all buildings.... In fact, everything above the foundation is customizable and purely aesthetic more times than not. The foundation really is the big deal when it comes to house. I mean, it's okay that you didn't know that. You don't seem to know much about anything anyway. LOL, Yes the foundation is an important part of the house, But so is the roof, and the walls, and many other things that make up a house. And yet the fact remains, a foundation, is not a house. Just as an opening is not a strategy. The roof is actually not an important part of the house--it's simply preferred. As are the walls and all the other "stuff" The only "required" thing for a building is the foundation. Everything else is purely aesthetics. I know this is a huge offtopic but as an architect I simply can't get this one slide. What the hell are you talking about? A house is defined by walls and a ceiling, foundation isn't even an used element in some cultures and some ways of building. Cement foundations the way it's used in Modern first world countries are not used by all cultures--but that doesn't mean other houses "don't have a foundation" A lot of houses in the Philippines for example use timber to create the base for a house by way of multiple legs to hold up the rest of the house. The walls and ceiling could be anything you really want it to be. Any material, any shape, any strength. In all cases the steps in building it is the same. Step 1: Make a foundation. Step 2: Look at architect's design to figure out how the rectangles and trapezoids fit on top of the flat slab of wood/concrete/etc... you have in place. Construction wise that is. Remove the foundation and you're in a tent. EDIT: Assuming you're the guy building the house that is. Most people just live in it.
Houses made of rammed earth. Floating houses. Your argument is invalid.
Besides, construction-wise, the foundations aren't the only elements that make a house. You still need pillars, beams and yes, walls and ceilings when these are structural elements (see: every single building made between the beggining of mankind and the European Gothic period). Every single one of these elements is as important, if not more, than the foundation.
And your steps really show how you have no idea what you're talking about. Make a random foundation and then look at what the architect designed? The foundations ARE designed by the architect to attend specific structural needs of that building.
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On June 30 2011 01:10 GrungyMunchy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 00:35 lorkac wrote:On June 30 2011 00:27 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 29 2011 23:59 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:51 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 23:45 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:11 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 22:56 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 22:32 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 22:11 lorkac wrote:
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Actually, when any strategy fails--you lose.
Imagine doing a hatch first and they kill your hatch? Fail.
1Rax FE and they kill your scvs with a drop? Fail.
How about a 3GateFE where they kill all your sentries? Fail.
Actually any strategy where your main crutch is countered is a strategy that fails. That's kind of why there's usually a "main crutch" to every strategy out there.
Open Speedling expand but you don't send out your lings for map control? Fail.
Open 2RaxFE but you lose your army to forcefields trying to go up the ramp? Protoss counterattacks and you die.
Open ForgeFE (Like Alicia did) and have drops circumvent your wall off? Yes, you also fail.
Do you even understand what strategy is? Or are you like Idra and simply pretend that strategies are only allowed if you say so? yes when your "Strategy" fails, you indeed do lose. But you have no idea what a strategy is. 1 Rax FE is not a strategy. 3 gate FE is not a strategy. Opening hatch first is not a strategy. Forge FE is not a strategy. When you know what a strategy is, I'll consider your points, until then, back to school. Actually--you not believing that those opening are strategic choices reveals a LOT about why you define cheese in the way you do Also, you're wrong. Not even "opinion wise" (which you also are) but you are factually wrong in this case It's actually pretty funny how you're acting right now lol On the bright side, I now understand why you've been saying such silly things on this thread. Thats a bunch of goblygook. An opening is not a strategy, LOL. Its like saying a foundation is a house. It isn't. And all the smiley faces in the world aren't going to make it so. A foundation is a part of the house... It's actually the most important part... It's actually the most ridiculously important part of all buildings.... In fact, everything above the foundation is customizable and purely aesthetic more times than not. The foundation really is the big deal when it comes to house. I mean, it's okay that you didn't know that. You don't seem to know much about anything anyway. LOL, Yes the foundation is an important part of the house, But so is the roof, and the walls, and many other things that make up a house. And yet the fact remains, a foundation, is not a house. Just as an opening is not a strategy. The roof is actually not an important part of the house--it's simply preferred. As are the walls and all the other "stuff" The only "required" thing for a building is the foundation. Everything else is purely aesthetics. I know this is a huge offtopic but as an architect I simply can't get this one slide. What the hell are you talking about? A house is defined by walls and a ceiling, foundation isn't even an used element in some cultures and some ways of building. Cement foundations the way it's used in Modern first world countries are not used by all cultures--but that doesn't mean other houses "don't have a foundation" A lot of houses in the Philippines for example use timber to create the base for a house by way of multiple legs to hold up the rest of the house. The walls and ceiling could be anything you really want it to be. Any material, any shape, any strength. In all cases the steps in building it is the same. Step 1: Make a foundation. Step 2: Look at architect's design to figure out how the rectangles and trapezoids fit on top of the flat slab of wood/concrete/etc... you have in place. Construction wise that is. Remove the foundation and you're in a tent. EDIT: Assuming you're the guy building the house that is. Most people just live in it. Houses made of rammed earth. Floating houses. Your argument is invalid. Besides, construction-wise, the foundations aren't the only elements that make a house. You still need pillars, beams and yes, walls and ceilings when these are structural elements (see: every single building made between the beggining of mankind and the European Gothic period). Every single one of these elements is as important, if not more, than the foundation. And your steps really show how you have no idea what you're talking about. Make a random foundation and then look at what the architect designed? The foundations ARE designed by the architect to attend specific structural needs of that building.
On the other hand, who gives a fuck?
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no shame MKP, Alicia is a very very good toss. This group is actually insane. i believe you will own up&down.. even Mvp dropped to code A before, stay strong!
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On June 30 2011 01:23 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 01:10 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 30 2011 00:35 lorkac wrote:On June 30 2011 00:27 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 29 2011 23:59 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:51 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 23:45 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:11 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 22:56 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 22:32 NickelMail wrote:
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yes when your "Strategy" fails, you indeed do lose. But you have no idea what a strategy is. 1 Rax FE is not a strategy. 3 gate FE is not a strategy. Opening hatch first is not a strategy. Forge FE is not a strategy.
When you know what a strategy is, I'll consider your points, until then, back to school. Actually--you not believing that those opening are strategic choices reveals a LOT about why you define cheese in the way you do Also, you're wrong. Not even "opinion wise" (which you also are) but you are factually wrong in this case It's actually pretty funny how you're acting right now lol On the bright side, I now understand why you've been saying such silly things on this thread. Thats a bunch of goblygook. An opening is not a strategy, LOL. Its like saying a foundation is a house. It isn't. And all the smiley faces in the world aren't going to make it so. A foundation is a part of the house... It's actually the most important part... It's actually the most ridiculously important part of all buildings.... In fact, everything above the foundation is customizable and purely aesthetic more times than not. The foundation really is the big deal when it comes to house. I mean, it's okay that you didn't know that. You don't seem to know much about anything anyway. LOL, Yes the foundation is an important part of the house, But so is the roof, and the walls, and many other things that make up a house. And yet the fact remains, a foundation, is not a house. Just as an opening is not a strategy. The roof is actually not an important part of the house--it's simply preferred. As are the walls and all the other "stuff" The only "required" thing for a building is the foundation. Everything else is purely aesthetics. I know this is a huge offtopic but as an architect I simply can't get this one slide. What the hell are you talking about? A house is defined by walls and a ceiling, foundation isn't even an used element in some cultures and some ways of building. Cement foundations the way it's used in Modern first world countries are not used by all cultures--but that doesn't mean other houses "don't have a foundation" A lot of houses in the Philippines for example use timber to create the base for a house by way of multiple legs to hold up the rest of the house. The walls and ceiling could be anything you really want it to be. Any material, any shape, any strength. In all cases the steps in building it is the same. Step 1: Make a foundation. Step 2: Look at architect's design to figure out how the rectangles and trapezoids fit on top of the flat slab of wood/concrete/etc... you have in place. Construction wise that is. Remove the foundation and you're in a tent. EDIT: Assuming you're the guy building the house that is. Most people just live in it. Houses made of rammed earth. Floating houses. Your argument is invalid. Besides, construction-wise, the foundations aren't the only elements that make a house. You still need pillars, beams and yes, walls and ceilings when these are structural elements (see: every single building made between the beggining of mankind and the European Gothic period). Every single one of these elements is as important, if not more, than the foundation. And your steps really show how you have no idea what you're talking about. Make a random foundation and then look at what the architect designed? The foundations ARE designed by the architect to attend specific structural needs of that building. On the other hand, who gives a fuck?
I wasn't talking to you, was I?
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wtf has happened. When did good ol'e theory crafting turn to a discussion in architecture?
Fuck that. At least you guys got to watch the games. Be happy/
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On June 30 2011 01:10 GrungyMunchy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 00:35 lorkac wrote:On June 30 2011 00:27 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 29 2011 23:59 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:51 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 23:45 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:11 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 22:56 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 22:32 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 22:11 lorkac wrote:
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Actually, when any strategy fails--you lose.
Imagine doing a hatch first and they kill your hatch? Fail.
1Rax FE and they kill your scvs with a drop? Fail.
How about a 3GateFE where they kill all your sentries? Fail.
Actually any strategy where your main crutch is countered is a strategy that fails. That's kind of why there's usually a "main crutch" to every strategy out there.
Open Speedling expand but you don't send out your lings for map control? Fail.
Open 2RaxFE but you lose your army to forcefields trying to go up the ramp? Protoss counterattacks and you die.
Open ForgeFE (Like Alicia did) and have drops circumvent your wall off? Yes, you also fail.
Do you even understand what strategy is? Or are you like Idra and simply pretend that strategies are only allowed if you say so? yes when your "Strategy" fails, you indeed do lose. But you have no idea what a strategy is. 1 Rax FE is not a strategy. 3 gate FE is not a strategy. Opening hatch first is not a strategy. Forge FE is not a strategy. When you know what a strategy is, I'll consider your points, until then, back to school. Actually--you not believing that those opening are strategic choices reveals a LOT about why you define cheese in the way you do Also, you're wrong. Not even "opinion wise" (which you also are) but you are factually wrong in this case It's actually pretty funny how you're acting right now lol On the bright side, I now understand why you've been saying such silly things on this thread. Thats a bunch of goblygook. An opening is not a strategy, LOL. Its like saying a foundation is a house. It isn't. And all the smiley faces in the world aren't going to make it so. A foundation is a part of the house... It's actually the most important part... It's actually the most ridiculously important part of all buildings.... In fact, everything above the foundation is customizable and purely aesthetic more times than not. The foundation really is the big deal when it comes to house. I mean, it's okay that you didn't know that. You don't seem to know much about anything anyway. LOL, Yes the foundation is an important part of the house, But so is the roof, and the walls, and many other things that make up a house. And yet the fact remains, a foundation, is not a house. Just as an opening is not a strategy. The roof is actually not an important part of the house--it's simply preferred. As are the walls and all the other "stuff" The only "required" thing for a building is the foundation. Everything else is purely aesthetics. I know this is a huge offtopic but as an architect I simply can't get this one slide. What the hell are you talking about? A house is defined by walls and a ceiling, foundation isn't even an used element in some cultures and some ways of building. Cement foundations the way it's used in Modern first world countries are not used by all cultures--but that doesn't mean other houses "don't have a foundation" A lot of houses in the Philippines for example use timber to create the base for a house by way of multiple legs to hold up the rest of the house. The walls and ceiling could be anything you really want it to be. Any material, any shape, any strength. In all cases the steps in building it is the same. Step 1: Make a foundation. Step 2: Look at architect's design to figure out how the rectangles and trapezoids fit on top of the flat slab of wood/concrete/etc... you have in place. Construction wise that is. Remove the foundation and you're in a tent. EDIT: Assuming you're the guy building the house that is. Most people just live in it. Houses made of rammed earth. Floating houses. Your argument is invalid. Besides, construction-wise, the foundations aren't the only elements that make a house. You still need pillars, beams and yes, walls and ceilings when these are structural elements (see: every single building made between the beggining of mankind and the European Gothic period). Every single one of these elements is as important, if not more, than the foundation. And your steps really show how you have no idea what you're talking about. Make a random foundation and then look at what the architect designed? The foundations ARE designed by the architect to attend specific structural needs of that building.
Actually, not always. Foundations are abstractly designed by a designer but is dependent purely on the location of a project (which the designer does not always have full access to).
Large scale projects that have the funding to pay a designer to nitpick every single aspect of the construction does have the architect design the exact specs of a building's foundation.
But everything from track homes to reconstruction jobs plays off the basis that the foundation is built to fit the land that is there.
(Also, if I lived in a bout house, the most important part of the house is the part that makes it not sink and not the walls. That's just me though, you sound like you don't care about the sinking part)
All the other "elements" you talk about are actually specific to the materials and scale of the house preferred. Pillars are not needed in an sod house, for example, while beams are not needed in a small house that simply needs a single slab to act as a ceiling. Pre steel work construction most churches were glorified gello molds of concrete. Even walls have changed from layers to piles to slabs etc... each one changing it's use depending on what material it is and depending on what shape it is. Some walls are simply strong enough to stand up but the roof is held by a pillar. Some walls are what holds the house together. Some roofs structurally placed and secured while some roofs are just leaves layed atop a box where they hope the wind doesn't blow it away.
All those other elements are dependent on the aesthetics of the structure. The foundation has only one job. Stay still enough to have stuff atop of it.
Whether it be logs acting as legs to raise the house above the sand, or a buoyant vessel to keep the bout house from sinking into the water or a concrete slab or leftover foundations from a torn down building or whatever. The foundation's job remains the same no matter the structure. Walls, roof, pillars and all those other elements have different uses for holding the house together that changes based on the will of the architect. The foundation's job remains the same.
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On June 30 2011 01:23 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 01:10 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 30 2011 00:35 lorkac wrote:On June 30 2011 00:27 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 29 2011 23:59 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:51 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 23:45 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:11 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 22:56 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 22:32 NickelMail wrote:
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yes when your "Strategy" fails, you indeed do lose. But you have no idea what a strategy is. 1 Rax FE is not a strategy. 3 gate FE is not a strategy. Opening hatch first is not a strategy. Forge FE is not a strategy.
When you know what a strategy is, I'll consider your points, until then, back to school. Actually--you not believing that those opening are strategic choices reveals a LOT about why you define cheese in the way you do Also, you're wrong. Not even "opinion wise" (which you also are) but you are factually wrong in this case It's actually pretty funny how you're acting right now lol On the bright side, I now understand why you've been saying such silly things on this thread. Thats a bunch of goblygook. An opening is not a strategy, LOL. Its like saying a foundation is a house. It isn't. And all the smiley faces in the world aren't going to make it so. A foundation is a part of the house... It's actually the most important part... It's actually the most ridiculously important part of all buildings.... In fact, everything above the foundation is customizable and purely aesthetic more times than not. The foundation really is the big deal when it comes to house. I mean, it's okay that you didn't know that. You don't seem to know much about anything anyway. LOL, Yes the foundation is an important part of the house, But so is the roof, and the walls, and many other things that make up a house. And yet the fact remains, a foundation, is not a house. Just as an opening is not a strategy. The roof is actually not an important part of the house--it's simply preferred. As are the walls and all the other "stuff" The only "required" thing for a building is the foundation. Everything else is purely aesthetics. I know this is a huge offtopic but as an architect I simply can't get this one slide. What the hell are you talking about? A house is defined by walls and a ceiling, foundation isn't even an used element in some cultures and some ways of building. Cement foundations the way it's used in Modern first world countries are not used by all cultures--but that doesn't mean other houses "don't have a foundation" A lot of houses in the Philippines for example use timber to create the base for a house by way of multiple legs to hold up the rest of the house. The walls and ceiling could be anything you really want it to be. Any material, any shape, any strength. In all cases the steps in building it is the same. Step 1: Make a foundation. Step 2: Look at architect's design to figure out how the rectangles and trapezoids fit on top of the flat slab of wood/concrete/etc... you have in place. Construction wise that is. Remove the foundation and you're in a tent. EDIT: Assuming you're the guy building the house that is. Most people just live in it. Houses made of rammed earth. Floating houses. Your argument is invalid. Besides, construction-wise, the foundations aren't the only elements that make a house. You still need pillars, beams and yes, walls and ceilings when these are structural elements (see: every single building made between the beggining of mankind and the European Gothic period). Every single one of these elements is as important, if not more, than the foundation. And your steps really show how you have no idea what you're talking about. Make a random foundation and then look at what the architect designed? The foundations ARE designed by the architect to attend specific structural needs of that building. On the other hand, who gives a fuck?
No need to get involved. These two seem pretty pissed off for some reason, just let them yell at me don't worry about them.
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On June 30 2011 01:29 MCDayC wrote:
wtf has happened. When did good ol'e theory crafting turn to a discussion in architecture?
Fuck that. At least you guys got to watch the games. Be happy/
I was trying to talk about strategy but Nickel brought up houses 
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Alicia protoss need to figure out how to deal with zerg, PvZ lately are so zerg favored, which is like the other way round 3months ago
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Sad to see MKP to the up/down again. But Up/Down is like a joke for MKP.
Don't quite understand his mass marine build against Losira who loves roach/ling/bling. In tvz, get tanks! xD
Genius turning up the heat, but then again its pvt which is so ez for protoss.
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On June 30 2011 01:25 GrungyMunchy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 01:23 The KY wrote:On June 30 2011 01:10 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 30 2011 00:35 lorkac wrote:On June 30 2011 00:27 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 29 2011 23:59 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:51 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 23:45 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:11 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 22:56 lorkac wrote:[quote] Actually--you not believing that those opening are strategic choices reveals a LOT about why you define cheese in the way you do Also, you're wrong. Not even "opinion wise" (which you also are) but you are factually wrong in this case It's actually pretty funny how you're acting right now lol On the bright side, I now understand why you've been saying such silly things on this thread. Thats a bunch of goblygook. An opening is not a strategy, LOL. Its like saying a foundation is a house. It isn't. And all the smiley faces in the world aren't going to make it so. A foundation is a part of the house... It's actually the most important part... It's actually the most ridiculously important part of all buildings.... In fact, everything above the foundation is customizable and purely aesthetic more times than not. The foundation really is the big deal when it comes to house. I mean, it's okay that you didn't know that. You don't seem to know much about anything anyway. LOL, Yes the foundation is an important part of the house, But so is the roof, and the walls, and many other things that make up a house. And yet the fact remains, a foundation, is not a house. Just as an opening is not a strategy. The roof is actually not an important part of the house--it's simply preferred. As are the walls and all the other "stuff" The only "required" thing for a building is the foundation. Everything else is purely aesthetics. I know this is a huge offtopic but as an architect I simply can't get this one slide. What the hell are you talking about? A house is defined by walls and a ceiling, foundation isn't even an used element in some cultures and some ways of building. Cement foundations the way it's used in Modern first world countries are not used by all cultures--but that doesn't mean other houses "don't have a foundation" A lot of houses in the Philippines for example use timber to create the base for a house by way of multiple legs to hold up the rest of the house. The walls and ceiling could be anything you really want it to be. Any material, any shape, any strength. In all cases the steps in building it is the same. Step 1: Make a foundation. Step 2: Look at architect's design to figure out how the rectangles and trapezoids fit on top of the flat slab of wood/concrete/etc... you have in place. Construction wise that is. Remove the foundation and you're in a tent. EDIT: Assuming you're the guy building the house that is. Most people just live in it. Houses made of rammed earth. Floating houses. Your argument is invalid. Besides, construction-wise, the foundations aren't the only elements that make a house. You still need pillars, beams and yes, walls and ceilings when these are structural elements (see: every single building made between the beggining of mankind and the European Gothic period). Every single one of these elements is as important, if not more, than the foundation. And your steps really show how you have no idea what you're talking about. Make a random foundation and then look at what the architect designed? The foundations ARE designed by the architect to attend specific structural needs of that building. On the other hand, who gives a fuck? I wasn't talking to you, was I?
you're talking on a forum.. so you're talking to everyone.
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ok, I have to admit that I miss the race balance whine now
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The polls for the last 3 matches shouldn't say the names of the players, it defeats the purpose of looking at them this way as only the last match stays unspoiled...
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On June 30 2011 01:25 GrungyMunchy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 01:23 The KY wrote:On June 30 2011 01:10 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 30 2011 00:35 lorkac wrote:On June 30 2011 00:27 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 29 2011 23:59 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:51 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 23:45 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:11 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 22:56 lorkac wrote:[quote] Actually--you not believing that those opening are strategic choices reveals a LOT about why you define cheese in the way you do Also, you're wrong. Not even "opinion wise" (which you also are) but you are factually wrong in this case It's actually pretty funny how you're acting right now lol On the bright side, I now understand why you've been saying such silly things on this thread. Thats a bunch of goblygook. An opening is not a strategy, LOL. Its like saying a foundation is a house. It isn't. And all the smiley faces in the world aren't going to make it so. A foundation is a part of the house... It's actually the most important part... It's actually the most ridiculously important part of all buildings.... In fact, everything above the foundation is customizable and purely aesthetic more times than not. The foundation really is the big deal when it comes to house. I mean, it's okay that you didn't know that. You don't seem to know much about anything anyway. LOL, Yes the foundation is an important part of the house, But so is the roof, and the walls, and many other things that make up a house. And yet the fact remains, a foundation, is not a house. Just as an opening is not a strategy. The roof is actually not an important part of the house--it's simply preferred. As are the walls and all the other "stuff" The only "required" thing for a building is the foundation. Everything else is purely aesthetics. I know this is a huge offtopic but as an architect I simply can't get this one slide. What the hell are you talking about? A house is defined by walls and a ceiling, foundation isn't even an used element in some cultures and some ways of building. Cement foundations the way it's used in Modern first world countries are not used by all cultures--but that doesn't mean other houses "don't have a foundation" A lot of houses in the Philippines for example use timber to create the base for a house by way of multiple legs to hold up the rest of the house. The walls and ceiling could be anything you really want it to be. Any material, any shape, any strength. In all cases the steps in building it is the same. Step 1: Make a foundation. Step 2: Look at architect's design to figure out how the rectangles and trapezoids fit on top of the flat slab of wood/concrete/etc... you have in place. Construction wise that is. Remove the foundation and you're in a tent. EDIT: Assuming you're the guy building the house that is. Most people just live in it. Houses made of rammed earth. Floating houses. Your argument is invalid. Besides, construction-wise, the foundations aren't the only elements that make a house. You still need pillars, beams and yes, walls and ceilings when these are structural elements (see: every single building made between the beggining of mankind and the European Gothic period). Every single one of these elements is as important, if not more, than the foundation. And your steps really show how you have no idea what you're talking about. Make a random foundation and then look at what the architect designed? The foundations ARE designed by the architect to attend specific structural needs of that building. On the other hand, who gives a fuck? I wasn't talking to you, was I?
You're littering the thread we all use to discuss GSL with this crap, so yes, you are talking to us. A thread on a specific topic on a public forum should be kept to its subject, so cut it out please.
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On June 30 2011 01:25 GrungyMunchy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 01:23 The KY wrote:On June 30 2011 01:10 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 30 2011 00:35 lorkac wrote:On June 30 2011 00:27 GrungyMunchy wrote:On June 29 2011 23:59 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:51 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 23:45 lorkac wrote:On June 29 2011 23:11 NickelMail wrote:On June 29 2011 22:56 lorkac wrote:[quote] Actually--you not believing that those opening are strategic choices reveals a LOT about why you define cheese in the way you do Also, you're wrong. Not even "opinion wise" (which you also are) but you are factually wrong in this case It's actually pretty funny how you're acting right now lol On the bright side, I now understand why you've been saying such silly things on this thread. Thats a bunch of goblygook. An opening is not a strategy, LOL. Its like saying a foundation is a house. It isn't. And all the smiley faces in the world aren't going to make it so. A foundation is a part of the house... It's actually the most important part... It's actually the most ridiculously important part of all buildings.... In fact, everything above the foundation is customizable and purely aesthetic more times than not. The foundation really is the big deal when it comes to house. I mean, it's okay that you didn't know that. You don't seem to know much about anything anyway. LOL, Yes the foundation is an important part of the house, But so is the roof, and the walls, and many other things that make up a house. And yet the fact remains, a foundation, is not a house. Just as an opening is not a strategy. The roof is actually not an important part of the house--it's simply preferred. As are the walls and all the other "stuff" The only "required" thing for a building is the foundation. Everything else is purely aesthetics. I know this is a huge offtopic but as an architect I simply can't get this one slide. What the hell are you talking about? A house is defined by walls and a ceiling, foundation isn't even an used element in some cultures and some ways of building. Cement foundations the way it's used in Modern first world countries are not used by all cultures--but that doesn't mean other houses "don't have a foundation" A lot of houses in the Philippines for example use timber to create the base for a house by way of multiple legs to hold up the rest of the house. The walls and ceiling could be anything you really want it to be. Any material, any shape, any strength. In all cases the steps in building it is the same. Step 1: Make a foundation. Step 2: Look at architect's design to figure out how the rectangles and trapezoids fit on top of the flat slab of wood/concrete/etc... you have in place. Construction wise that is. Remove the foundation and you're in a tent. EDIT: Assuming you're the guy building the house that is. Most people just live in it. Houses made of rammed earth. Floating houses. Your argument is invalid. Besides, construction-wise, the foundations aren't the only elements that make a house. You still need pillars, beams and yes, walls and ceilings when these are structural elements (see: every single building made between the beggining of mankind and the European Gothic period). Every single one of these elements is as important, if not more, than the foundation. And your steps really show how you have no idea what you're talking about. Make a random foundation and then look at what the architect designed? The foundations ARE designed by the architect to attend specific structural needs of that building. On the other hand, who gives a fuck? I wasn't talking to you, was I?
Does it really matter? I'm talking to you... say something now cities.
But on topic with this thread...when was the last time MKP advanced through group stages? This is starting to get ridiculous and I don't know if I can defend him as one of the greatest terrans anymore.
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