EPTThe level of consistency required is really not sustainable for anyone. Your going to have slumps, and if a two - three week slump means code 'B', that's a harsh system indeed.
[GSL] July Code A ro32 Day 2 - Page 183
| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments |
|
NickelMail
128 Posts
The level of consistency required is really not sustainable for anyone. Your going to have slumps, and if a two - three week slump means code 'B', that's a harsh system indeed. | ||
|
pulsade13
Australia50 Posts
| ||
|
L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:20 NickelMail wrote: The GSL system is dumb. You can win 3 GSL's in a row, lose 1 match and your in up and down matches - 1 step from code 'A'. Have a bad couple weeks, you could be out of code 'A' and into code 'B' The level of consistency required is really not sustainable for anyone. Your going to have slumps, and if a two - three week slump means code 'B', that's a harsh system indeed. Why is that a bad thing? you have to be playing bad for over a month to get knocked out. If you make it hard to drop out, then that makes it hard for new young players to break in | ||
|
pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:20 NickelMail wrote: The GSL system is dumb. You can win 3 GSL's in a row, lose 1 match and your in up and down matches - 1 step from code 'A'. Have a bad couple weeks, you could be out of code 'A' and into code 'B' The level of consistency required is really not sustainable for anyone. Your going to have slumps, and if a two - three week slump means code 'B', that's a harsh system indeed. On the other end of the spectrum, you have people complaining about how difficult it is to get in. And how subpar players are still in Code S or how difficult the Open qualifiers are. Whatever the system there will be whine. BW made it for so many years (and is still running) even while almost never having a league system. I'm an MMA fan, but he lost. I'm sad. But oh well, he should've done better. | ||
|
425kid
416 Posts
At columbus his only serious matches were tvz (lol idra, losira, sheth). in the team league he hasnt beaten top protosses yet. Teams are going to have protoss snipers for him. Puzzle, mc, killer, san, tassadar, inca, yongwha, etc are all favorites against him as are the top terrans: bomber mvp mkp polt nada sc and nestea is obviously a favorite against him. Mma doesnt even play the best tvz in the world. Mkp, sc, and mvp all play it better. He is overrated hugely | ||
|
Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:21 pulsade13 wrote: Congrats Sheth!!!! So awesome!!! So glad he is doing so well! It is much more interesting for me when there is a foreigner. I hope he continues to do well! did he play? this makes me super confused | ||
|
quiet noise
599 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:24 425kid wrote: Mma just cant macro well enough. He's great at pressure and harass, but if thats denied he cant keep up. He is great at engaging too, but as san showed earlier, that isnt enough. He's basically 2010 mkp but 6 months late. He has potential but he isnt the superstar made him out to be. At columbus his only serious matches were tvz (lol idra, losira, sheth). in the team league he hasnt beaten top protosses yet. Teams are going to have protoss snipers for him. Puzzle, mc, killer, san, tassadar, inca, yongwha, etc are all favorites against him as are the top terrans: bomber mvp mkp polt nada sc and nestea is obviously a favorite against him. Mma doesnt even play the best tvz in the world. Mkp, sc, and mvp all play it better. He is overrated hugely dude you spoke my mind. finally someone who sees sense | ||
|
HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
| ||
|
Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
wut? Yeah he played, + Show Spoiler + beat san 2-1 | ||
|
NickelMail
128 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:18 mikyaJ wrote: MMA didn't win either. MLG =/= Gainward. It equals MLG. People don't talk about MC winning Copenhagen and DHI when they include his credentials do they? I hope not. This is why we have seperate TLP data bases. If you don't consider winning MLG or Dreamhack, or any competitive event with top players, cause its not either in Korea or the GSL, or whatever, then your an ass. | ||
|
kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:15 usethis2 wrote: Since when marine+SCV is standard in TvP?? And I was responding to other people saying how puzzle took advantage of MMA's greedy opening. Well, that argument doesn't bode well with marine/scv rush (MMA) v. 3-gate expand (Puzzle). It. was. not. an. Marine +SCV.rush. He pulled a few (!!!) SCVs off 2 base to threaten Puzzle with a bunker contain on his expo or to punish high economy focus. The rest of his SCVs was at home, with 2 mules and a third CC coming. He saw it was not going to work, did not commit and simply retreated. Often people pull a few SCVs in TvZ just to solidify a position with tanks. They repair or build turrets in this position. MMAs play was not in the slightest cheesy with about 3 SCVs pulled at about 8min mark. off 2 base and 2/3rax. | ||
|
Ingruz
Italy380 Posts
| ||
|
DoubleB
Germany870 Posts
On June 28 2011 16:37 iNcontroL wrote: GO SHETHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THIS! So awesome he made it vs San : ) | ||
|
Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
 fuck. Code b gonna be stacked with a bit of bad luck hero, drg and MMA in same bracket so only one makes it out.Super super happy for sheth though! Awesome to see him win games, first in gstl and now in gsl. And he is up against another protosss. | ||
|
Asha
United Kingdom38256 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:20 NickelMail wrote: The GSL system is dumb. You can win 3 GSL's in a row, lose 1 match and your in up and down matches - 1 step from code 'A'. Have a bad couple weeks, you could be out of code 'A' and into code 'B' The level of consistency required is really not sustainable for anyone. Your going to have slumps, and if a two - three week slump means code 'B', that's a harsh system indeed. They changed the format anyway, you have to lose 2 matches without winning one to be in the up and down matches now, and the up and down format is 5man group play with the top 2 going to Code S. | ||
|
Fubi
2228 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:16 mikyaJ wrote: Well remaking it to a 64 man tourney wouldn't fix that. You'd still have people get knocked out in the first round. And they would have to re-qualify. (regarding the OP ofc) Yea upsets will always happen regardless of format. It's just that if you pool all the Code S players into Code A, and do some seeding, at least after a few runs, the chances of upsets happening the first round will be lower. Because at the current moment, Code S players get multiple "lifelines". Because at the moment, Code S players only has to beat 1 of 3 opponents to stay in Code S, THEN even if they lose to all 3, they have 1 or 2 chances in the up and downs to stay in Code S. THEN even if they lose that they only have to win two rounds of Code A to get back to the Ups and Downs. Where as a Code B player has to go thru the brutal qualifier just to get a shot at that. In reality tho, it has already been proven that there really isn't much skill disparity between the Code S/A/B, aside from maybe the top 5 in Code S. Imo, it should be some sort of RO64 with 4-5 man group plays first round, and with only the top 8 not having to requalify for next season. Or some variation of this. The current format is just too brutal to watch for the audience. It's alrite for a game like BW where it is less volatile, but for SC2, this format is not suitable, at least not yet. | ||
|
Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:17 Herry wrote: I just would like to point out, that almost everyone watches professional sports (not only esports) because of the possible bonjwa's, Jordan, Tiger Woods, Flash, sAviOr, Schumacher you name it, they bring a sense of wonder and excitement to any sport. I really don't get why people want to see 1 person/team dominating everything, I really don't. Vettel is killing F1 for me, Barcelona killed the champions league. Tennis got interesting when Federer lost his throne not when he obtained it. Sense of wonder and excitement when you know before hand it's going to take a miracle to beat them? | ||
|
NickelMail
128 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:24 pdd wrote: On the other end of the spectrum, you have people complaining about how difficult it is to get in. And how subpar players are still in Code S or how difficult the Open qualifiers are. Whatever the system there will be whine. BW made it for so many years (and is still running) even while almost never having a league system. I'm an MMA fan, but he lost. I'm sad. But oh well, he should've done better. Have a points system or exemptions or something. There can still be a lot of turnover and opportunity, but players who have won and posted a lot of results shouldn't be booted to code'A' for a bad couple weeks. If Nestea has a bad couple matches and goes down to code 'A', that to me sounds ridiculous. Its just my opinion but yeah, ridiculous. It'd be like kicking Tiger Woods off the PGA tour cause he hasn't done much the last 18 months. Sorry Tiger, down to the nation wide tour. How ridiculous is that. | ||
|
usethis2
2164 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:20 NickelMail wrote: The GSL system is dumb. You can win 3 GSL's in a row, lose 1 match and your in up and down matches - 1 step from code 'A'. Have a bad couple weeks, you could be out of code 'A' and into code 'B' The level of consistency required is really not sustainable for anyone. Your going to have slumps, and if a two - three week slump means code 'B', that's a harsh system indeed. Well, I've been thinking the opposite actually. I can't wait for the day Tester drops out of code S but it's just not happening because of the stronghold Code S system. And think about all the great players that still haven't made it into code A. I'd rather have DRG in code A/S than MMA or Tester. | ||
|
Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
| ||
| ||
