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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 25 2011 18:45 GMT
#5721
Yeah, stop crying Idra fanboys. The 3rd game could go either ways with some difference decision. Lets get on with the tourney and FYI Idra is not out of the tourney yet, hes in LB with a chance to come back.
Terran
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
June 25 2011 18:45 GMT
#5722
On June 26 2011 03:44 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 03:41 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:39 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:32 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:31 R3N wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:30 hi_0 wrote:
IdrA needed hydras against all of those stalkers. Roaches just don't cut it.


yep. also don't like the infestor in this situation. costs way too much.

lol, whenever he goes hydras against blink stalkers people say he needs infestors. whenever he goes infestors, people say he needs hydras. it came down to the upgrades, the late roach speed, no burrow, shit like that. not just what units he did/didn't get

Or for this specific time dropping a couple spine crawlers would have almost completely denied that push by HuK and giving him time to get his extra base up and infestors to RoflStomp through HuKs army. Sloppy decision making cost Idra that game had nothing to do with balance...

eh, he was on even bases with protoss, dunno if spine crawlers would have been that good an idea. his roach speed finished at like 12:00 though, which is really damn late.. it's hard to keep up with protoss on upgrades because of chrono, but he could have done better there... huk had no obs, burrow means that toss has to invest in robo or else zerg can do his own micro. also, infestors were a bit late and creep spread could have been far better

blink stalkers are really fucking strong though. completely aside from balance, more protoss need to use that shit it's so good.

Actually HuK did have an obvs so Burrow wouldn't have helped that much in this game. And the spine crawlers would have down wonders, place them down around the gas and just gather your army around them and block the ramp from a run by. The range+Dmg of spinecrawlers instantly deny HuK's harras IMO

eh, ok so disregard the burrow and creep spread things. regardless, roach speed and infestors could have been earlier

thing about spine crawlers is that you build them, protoss pulls back and techs up off even base to zerg and what do those spine crawlers do now? making that many blink stalkers isn't allin, there is no point in the game where they aren't useful and he got a robo and 3rd behind it.

Considering the constant pressure Idra was on, there was very little room to tech, it was a very hard situation
I have no quote!
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 25 2011 18:45 GMT
#5723
Just stop the balance whining for once in your fucking lives... this is a really cool and relatively casual event. Can you let others enjoy it without giving us headaches by constantly whining?

This is why IdrA fanboys have a bad rep btw... the balance whining never ends (from both sides) when IdrA loses.
TI79
Profile Joined June 2011
19 Posts
June 25 2011 18:46 GMT
#5724
OMFG let nightend talk ! stop cutting him T_T poor guy
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 25 2011 18:46 GMT
#5725
On June 26 2011 03:42 Bash wrote:
It's getting preeeetty annoying that no matter what unit composition zerg uses, the people in this thread will pick the one unit they didn't use and claim that would've been the magic bullet... How about just be quiet when you have no idea what's going on, the game isn't all about fucking unit composition.


All of the crying about Blink has been countered with a simple answer.

Better Infestor timing.

Pretty simple, really. Fungal's about as good of a hard counter as you can get to Blink.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 25 2011 18:46 GMT
#5726
Wow, great micro battle. NaNiwa still with two colossi.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
June 25 2011 18:46 GMT
#5727
On June 26 2011 03:33 Nivyan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 03:32 SushilS wrote:
HUKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
And Idra needs to learn how to deal with Blink rather than be mind-blocked about it!


Got a suggestion?

Teched asap to infestors- They came out when roaches were dead.

Hydras might have been out quicker - but without range upgrade they aren't doing very much dps with roaches in such a corridor.

Don't see how idrA could have handled the situation better at all.


Some time ago he lost also to Nazgul to something similar. He said afterwards that hydras in time should stop it.

Of course the game is not so simple, but pure roach (with some lings) is not the response to that for sure. And infestors came late.

I'm sick of the new "blink stalkers are OP". I'm pretty sure Idra knows how to beat it, but when Idra saw 6gate+council he stopped to drone. Then Huk didn't attack and macroed, and then when the push came, Idra was simply not prepared for it.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
June 25 2011 18:46 GMT
#5728
YESSS!!! NANI GO WIN! ;D He's such a great player!
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
June 25 2011 18:46 GMT
#5729
On June 26 2011 03:45 najreteip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 03:44 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:41 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:39 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:32 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:31 R3N wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:30 hi_0 wrote:
IdrA needed hydras against all of those stalkers. Roaches just don't cut it.


yep. also don't like the infestor in this situation. costs way too much.

lol, whenever he goes hydras against blink stalkers people say he needs infestors. whenever he goes infestors, people say he needs hydras. it came down to the upgrades, the late roach speed, no burrow, shit like that. not just what units he did/didn't get

Or for this specific time dropping a couple spine crawlers would have almost completely denied that push by HuK and giving him time to get his extra base up and infestors to RoflStomp through HuKs army. Sloppy decision making cost Idra that game had nothing to do with balance...

eh, he was on even bases with protoss, dunno if spine crawlers would have been that good an idea. his roach speed finished at like 12:00 though, which is really damn late.. it's hard to keep up with protoss on upgrades because of chrono, but he could have done better there... huk had no obs, burrow means that toss has to invest in robo or else zerg can do his own micro. also, infestors were a bit late and creep spread could have been far better

blink stalkers are really fucking strong though. completely aside from balance, more protoss need to use that shit it's so good.

Actually HuK did have an obvs so Burrow wouldn't have helped that much in this game. And the spine crawlers would have down wonders, place them down around the gas and just gather your army around them and block the ramp from a run by. The range+Dmg of spinecrawlers instantly deny HuK's harras IMO

eh, ok so disregard the burrow and creep spread things. regardless, roach speed and infestors could have been earlier

thing about spine crawlers is that you build them, protoss pulls back and techs up off even base to zerg and what do those spine crawlers do now? making that many blink stalkers isn't allin, there is no point in the game where they aren't useful and he got a robo and 3rd behind it.

Considering the constant pressure Idra was on, there was very little room to tech, it was a very hard situation

agreed, but I think his lair was either late or he forgot about roachspeed for a couple minutes.
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
June 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#5730
On June 26 2011 03:44 Legend` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 03:40 Piski wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:39 Legend` wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:37 Rayansaki wrote:

On June 26 2011 03:31 Exarl25 wrote:
If I massed Stalkers against Marauders and got destroyed then no one would cry imbalance.

But Stalkers versus Roaches and it's a completely different story.


This is so true :[]


Well its a well known fact that zerg players complain the most lol. For some reason they think amoving with roaches takes more skill than going blink stalkers and actually have to -gasp- MICRO

Logic usually helps but I think most of them just watch idra everyday and believes everything he says.


How zerg should be microing their roaches against blink stalkers? :o He had obs there so no burrow play and he were backing away quite well. I'm seriously curious. I dont think blink stalkers are imba or anything but I just want to know how to micro roaches against blink stalkers?


That's exactly the point - you DONT micro roaches against blink stalkers. It's a lot easier for the zerg to just send armies to fight the protoss and not pay any attention whatsoever than for the protoss to do the same thing. For protoss to fight mass roaches you need:

1: favourable position/arc
2: favourable upgrades (because rarely will you have more blink stalkers than roaches due to roaches being 75/25)
3: good micro. Anything above 15-20 roaches do incredible dps vs stalkers and it actually isn't as easy as it seems to micro and reinforce at the same time.


I agree but why do you then complain that zergs just A-move the roaches against blink and whine if that's the "right" thing to do?
HuK was attacking idra and idra run away everytime he got to a choke. IdrA failed with upgrades but he got all the other things right. I was mostly picking on your "A-move" whine
IceSlipper
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Australia1028 Posts
June 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#5731
nani has such sickkk micro
mrg
Profile Joined October 2010
304 Posts
June 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#5732
Dat micro
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
June 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#5733
The way ToD says Colossi is just so amazing, I love this guy.
It appears I have been chosen.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
June 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#5734
I dont understand why Take always says "Naniwer". Why damnit why? :D
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#5735
Wow, colossus with single digit health?
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 18:47:55
June 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#5736
--- Nuked ---
dpL
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden571 Posts
June 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#5737
"NANIWURR"
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
June 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#5738
gg wp nani !
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
June 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#5739
FUCK YEAH NANI!!!!!!!!!
CraZyWayne
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany357 Posts
June 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#5740
"Naniwear" won, wow! :D
"tahts halo. dont worry"
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