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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 18 2011 07:48 GMT
#2001
can we please have the production tab up.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 07:48:53
June 18 2011 07:48 GMT
#2002
On June 18 2011 16:43 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 16:41 Moonwrath wrote:
On June 18 2011 16:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 18 2011 16:38 BnK wrote:
I'm now convinced that Z>T on crossfire

nah, that map is pretty T favored, sC just played it badly

Stats don't lie. Theoretically people(read zergs) say it's imba against zerg, but in practice it just isn't the case.


I love it when people, instead of using their brains, use stats.

Shows such a clear lack of ability to individual thought

Well, crossfire is at least balanced TvZ, and I'd say slightly Z favored. Yes, lots of chokes, but lots of quick ways to surround and flank too. Lots of paths for sneaky lings attacks. Not to hard 3rd for zerg but very hard 3 bases for terran.
Szubie
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 07:48:52
June 18 2011 07:48 GMT
#2003
On June 18 2011 16:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 16:44 Fubi wrote:
On June 18 2011 16:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 18 2011 16:38 BnK wrote:
I'm now convinced that Z>T on crossfire

nah, that map is pretty T favored, sC just played it badly

ppl arn't basing what they said solely on this match tho

its basically impossible for Z to get a 4th on that map. If the T plays a bit more turtly, gets about 8 tanks per push, Z cant do shit. also just dropping while pushing, and its too much for Z to handle


When talking about this, it's all theory craft, but you can also say that mutalisks are very strong on this map, basically denying terran a safe 3rd at all. Bomber vs Nestea showed a good example of this. The thing is that the stats also seem to support the difficulty that terran has on this map. (Not to mention baneling landmines, costs scans etc.)

At the very least, zerg qq-ing about map being imba against them is very questionable when the stats point to the exact opposite. If the results were 50/50 the zerg claim of imba would still haave trouble.

Anyway, back to this game on Terminus!
IMMvp, Maru
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 18 2011 07:48 GMT
#2004
that is a lot of marines... hopefully he can hold it off
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
June 18 2011 07:48 GMT
#2005
On June 18 2011 16:47 travis wrote:
i drunk a beer

[image loading]


OMG I was waiting for someone to do this! XD
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 18 2011 07:48 GMT
#2006
sick surround :DDD
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
June 18 2011 07:48 GMT
#2007
was not expecting that flank lol
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#2008
DAT FLANK!
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#2009
Mass marines, SURPRISING!
+ Show Spoiler +
/sarcasm
閑静 しずか (ノ・_・)ノ
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#2010
On June 18 2011 16:46 Shardz wrote:
People keep criticizing sC for pushing zerg and constantly losing his army. But what Tasteless keeps saying is a big loss actually hurt the zerg economy a lot. DRG's weakness imo is the fact that he does not know the exact timings of when to drone and overproduces units without having enough to end the game. If you produce units to kill an attack, the best way to end the attack is with barely any units left for zerg. If you overproduce, than you just wasted larva on what could have been economy.

sC's pushes exploits DRG's weakness as he is not as good a droner as Nestea is. Even though the pushes appear to be failing, they were actually more successful than people think. The pushes prevented droning, wasted larva and prevented zerg over expansion. In reality this is how sC really gets ahead. These repetitive pushes that seem to fail are not as stupid as they seem to be.

This isn't necessarily true - with a larger army, you'll be able to crush the Terran attacks more decisively, losing less units.

I don't think DRG's drone timings are his weakness, there isn't a zerg out there who has an easy time dealing with sC's bullshit pressure. He's just making too many blunders (not quantity I guess, but the size of them). Also needs to stop going for Infestors, they're worthless against the sC style
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#2011
rofl and sc's like "that sucks man" lmao I love artosis :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#2012
horry sheet DRG
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#2013
that was so poorly done by DRG, the banes didnt connect cos they were blocked by lings
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#2014
sC targetted the banes beatifully, but the flank is godly
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#2015
On June 18 2011 16:49 L3g3nd_ wrote:
that was so poorly done by DRG, the banes didnt connect cos they were blocked by lings

..................
lalala
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#2016
DRG always has units for little pushes O.O
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#2017
This is such a great series. Both players are playing pretty well.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#2018
It's amazing that some Zergs still don't flank with their units, DRG providing numerous examples of just how effective it is today.
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#2019
That would have been even more one-sided if those banelings had hit.
It's easier not to.
meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
June 18 2011 07:50 GMT
#2020
On June 18 2011 16:49 L3g3nd_ wrote:
that was so poorly done by DRG, the banes didnt connect cos they were blocked by lings


lol
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