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Okay we're going to start cracking down on people bashing players for no reason. You don't have to like every player, but at least show some respect. (as of page 402)
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
June 05 2011 02:32 GMT
#16761
On June 05 2011 11:31 Chainfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:30 mtvacuum wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:29 Chainfire99 wrote:
Bragging rights? It's not a fair competition. You have pro Korean players who can make a living off of competing in the game...they can afford to practice 60+ hrs a week in gaming houses with several other similarly skilled teammates and coaches overseeing everything. The majority of non-Korean "pros" aren't able to do the same. Practice and hard work is everything.

IMO the Koreans aren't dominating enough, they shouldn't lose a game EVER.


take away mbs and you'll get your domination.



Forgive my ignorance but what does mbs stand for?


Multiple Building Selection.

You know how you can grab 6 barracks at once?

In BW you couldn't do that, you had to individually click each one.

This video explains better then I could why this is Such A Big Deal:

Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 05 2011 02:32 GMT
#16762
On June 05 2011 11:31 Gnomtastisch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:30 OrangeSoda wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:29 SpiZe wrote:
I don't get the "NICE RAX" sign, anyone would care to explain?


nice rack, as in nice tits


what? still don't get it...


how old are you?XD Maybe be I shouldnt tell you this.

but it is a play on words because rax sounds like rack, which means boobs, tits, tatas, jugs, breasts, melons, boobies, titties, etc.
spybreak
Profile Joined October 2010
United States684 Posts
June 05 2011 02:32 GMT
#16763
On June 05 2011 11:31 Gnomtastisch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:30 OrangeSoda wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:29 SpiZe wrote:
I don't get the "NICE RAX" sign, anyone would care to explain?


nice rack, as in nice tits


what? still don't get it...


The you never will =(
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
June 05 2011 02:32 GMT
#16764
On June 05 2011 11:31 SpiZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:30 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:29 SpiZe wrote:
I don't get the "NICE RAX" sign, anyone would care to explain?


Nice Rack (breasts)


Hell yeah, improving my english bit by bit ^^

Thanks

Bit by bit prime?
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
June 05 2011 02:32 GMT
#16765
On June 05 2011 11:29 nam nam wrote:
Lol, why have the op gotten banned?


---> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=741#14839

Anyway, time to sleep until lunchtime to be ready for the finals.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
June 05 2011 02:32 GMT
#16766
On June 05 2011 11:29 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:27 Golgotha wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:25 oogieogie wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:23 Fionn wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:21 Crumpet wrote:
I personally don't think a legitimate argument can be made that Koreans are overall ahead in the starcraft 2 scene. However, it is a far cry from the dominance they held in Brood War. The matches between top tier foreigners and top tier Koreans are extremely competitive, and I believe the gap will only continue to narrow as esports grows in the west. Throwing up the series results of the koreans is a bit misleading, as many of them were extremly close series that, in my opinion, could have gone the other way a good 50% of the time.


Koreans are still far above most of the world except for a few, but it isn't like BW.

In BW, if any foreign player even took a game off someone like Bisu at an international event, it would create an uproar. Here, if someone like MC drops a series to Idra, it's not the same thing.

SC2 isn't mechanical enough for there to be such a gap.

jw but has there been a uproar caused by a foreigner taking a game off someone like Bisu/Flash/Jaedong or some BW pro?


no foreigner has beaten a legit BW pro for a long time now.


no foreigners have been playing bw in korea for a long time now

towards the no foreigner has beaten a legit BW pro for a long time now...can you remember a time that did happened and it caused a uproar?
TofuFox
Profile Joined November 2010
374 Posts
June 05 2011 02:32 GMT
#16767
On June 05 2011 11:32 wisedimple wrote:
So what's going to happen with with Pool C? Both IdrA and MC are at 4-1; does that mean they'll be playing each other for the #1 spot?

Sorry if this was already asked in this thread, but it's kind of hard to find everything in the 800 pages of this thread


Idra finishes 1st because he won Head to Head, which is the first tiebreaker.
cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16768
On June 05 2011 11:31 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:29 SpiZe wrote:
I don't get the "NICE RAX" sign, anyone would care to explain?

The nice generally means kind or supportive, but in this context it's more of a 'superb' or 'great'. The rax actually refers to a basic production building in Starcraft 2 called the Barracks.

When you put these 2 together it means the Barracks they are referring to (probably one in a game played earlier) was good.


Ym would get it wrong. -_-
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
uSnAmplified
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1029 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16769
On June 05 2011 11:31 Cognizance wrote:
Show nested quote +

Cut the Memes, they're really annoying dude ._.

Yeah, well that's just like, your opinion, man.
Memes, even TL ones, are annoying. Don't 1a2a3a your way to posting over 9000 memes -- we will ban you. There are plenty of places to go if you want to see posters of people failing at things or a humorous caption appended to a photograph of a cat. TeamLiquid is not one of those places.

From TL commandments.
~
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16770
On June 05 2011 11:32 wisedimple wrote:
So what's going to happen with with Pool C? Both IdrA and MC are at 4-1; does that mean they'll be playing each other for the #1 spot?

Sorry if this was already asked in this thread, but it's kind of hard to find everything in the 800 pages of this thread


Idra gets #1 because of Head to Head, aka he won vs MC in the pool play.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16771
is that justin bieber on the red stream?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16772
On June 05 2011 11:32 wisedimple wrote:
So what's going to happen with with Pool C? Both IdrA and MC are at 4-1; does that mean they'll be playing each other for the #1 spot?

Sorry if this was already asked in this thread, but it's kind of hard to find everything in the 800 pages of this thread


No, IdrA beat MC 2-0. Thus he takes the first slot.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16773
On June 05 2011 11:32 wisedimple wrote:
So what's going to happen with with Pool C? Both IdrA and MC are at 4-1; does that mean they'll be playing each other for the #1 spot?

Sorry if this was already asked in this thread, but it's kind of hard to find everything in the 800 pages of this thread


No, Idra won vs MC first game so that counts as the tie breaker
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16774
On June 05 2011 11:32 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:30 setzer wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:29 Devolved wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:27 Golgotha wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:25 oogieogie wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:23 Fionn wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:21 Crumpet wrote:
I personally don't think a legitimate argument can be made that Koreans are overall ahead in the starcraft 2 scene. However, it is a far cry from the dominance they held in Brood War. The matches between top tier foreigners and top tier Koreans are extremely competitive, and I believe the gap will only continue to narrow as esports grows in the west. Throwing up the series results of the koreans is a bit misleading, as many of them were extremly close series that, in my opinion, could have gone the other way a good 50% of the time.


Koreans are still far above most of the world except for a few, but it isn't like BW.

In BW, if any foreign player even took a game off someone like Bisu at an international event, it would create an uproar. Here, if someone like MC drops a series to Idra, it's not the same thing.

SC2 isn't mechanical enough for there to be such a gap.

jw but has there been a uproar caused by a foreigner taking a game off someone like Bisu/Flash/Jaedong or some BW pro?


no foreigner has beaten a legit BW pro for a long time now.

Didn't Mondragon beat Jaedong in the last WCG? I can't remember if he just took 1 game or the series though.


No, that was a chinese zerg.


Mondi beat Savior and that was years ago. -_-


What does that have to do with Jaedong?
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16775
On June 05 2011 11:28 zawk9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:26 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:23 Fionn wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:21 Crumpet wrote:
I personally don't think a legitimate argument can be made that Koreans are overall ahead in the starcraft 2 scene. However, it is a far cry from the dominance they held in Brood War. The matches between top tier foreigners and top tier Koreans are extremely competitive, and I believe the gap will only continue to narrow as esports grows in the west. Throwing up the series results of the koreans is a bit misleading, as many of them were extremly close series that, in my opinion, could have gone the other way a good 50% of the time.


Koreans are still far above most of the world except for a few, but it isn't like BW.

In BW, if any foreign player even took a game off someone like Bisu at an international event, it would create an uproar. Here, if someone like MC drops a series to Idra, it's not the same thing.

SC2 isn't mechanical enough for there to be such a gap.


SC2 is very mechanical, but has streamlined a lot of the mechanics associated with BW. The mechanics needed now are not identical to Brood War, they are there, but they are different.


Sure its still very mechanical, but not in comparison to its predecessor. That was the point of his post.


I understand, but I was just saying if you use BW as the baseline for what mechanics are, then yeah it needs more. But Blizzard artificially closed the gap by streamlining a lot of the mechanics that BW pros took years to develop, so their practice did not transfer over 1:1. But if you remove the BW standard and take SC2 alone, the mechanical gap could still expand just the same. I meant SC2 is just as mechanical, but the mechanics are different, and the ones in the past that made the original gap were artificially closed.
bluestuff
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada893 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16776
hmm lorisa is gonna smash naniwa tommorow I think( has the best PVZ is the world) and idra is barely gonna scoot by MMA for a lorisa vs Idra winners final. From there its a coinflip based on how much idra's zvz has improved since his match with zenio. Losers bracket is anyone game( ie to many high tier foreigners and Koreans)
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16777
On June 05 2011 11:31 OrangeSoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:31 Gnomtastisch wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:30 OrangeSoda wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:29 SpiZe wrote:
I don't get the "NICE RAX" sign, anyone would care to explain?


nice rack, as in nice tits


what? still don't get it...


as in big jugs. k im done

You made me laugh so much :')
the farm ends here
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16778
On June 05 2011 11:27 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:19 TheHova wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:16 TheHova wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:13 Jyvblamo wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:11 Telcontar wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:10 spybreak wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:09 Telcontar wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:08 Jyvblamo wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:08 spybreak wrote:
[quote]

That's ok he will still be seeded next MLG!!!

Thank god for this format.

This can't be true. Seriously?


If gretorp can win at least 1 series in the championship rounds, yes he will STILL be seeded.

..... Well that is pretty stupid.

Actually, I think he needs to win 2 series to survive. Not 100% sure, someone correct me please.


Still... 2 wins in two MLG's and you get seeded? Pathetic format. Doesn't iNcontroL have less than 45% win rate in every matchup and is seeded 4th?



He came in 4th place last MLG ...


I'm well aware.


So what's your point then? He's seeded 4th cos he got 4th. He was seeded top 16 before that because he was top 16 in points. Complain about the format all you like but iNcontroL is not a player who has been kept in the seedings despite bad results unlike Gretorp.


My point is he has a low win/loss ratio for someone who is seeded 4th. I never once said he didn't deserve the spot ffs. For a seed to be based off 1 tournament is silly when all the others have been from all the past points combined, and the amount of advantage you gain from having a seed is way too big. Once you get a seed it's harder to lose it than keep it. And really difficult for players to break into the seedings because of it.
duct_TAPE
Profile Joined May 2011
492 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16779
On June 05 2011 11:23 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:18 Adreme wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:15 bluestuff wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:12 Adreme wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:05 doffe wrote:
On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)

Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0

Koreans: 21 - 3

If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.

Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^;


Its fun how ju count MMAs win against July but not Julys loss.... anyways 20-3 is still pretty awsome




It kinda went how it was expected to go though it went pretty awesome for the Koreans. The way I see it only 3 people at MLG (in the pool play) have a shot at taking down MMA July MC and Losira. Those 3 are Naniwa, Idra and Thorzain. Idra and Nani won there groups and Thorzain was in Idras group. Now I know other players have a shot at taking a Bo3 off of them (Sjow who should have beaten MMA and Morrow if he can get out of the Losers Bracket) but lets not pretend they sent over just anyone

MMA has possibly the best TvT in Korea and has shown that he can crush high level zergs as well. MC is the best protoss in Korea without question. Losira is probably the 2nd best zerg is korea and if hes not the 2nd best then Julyzerg is. So the only people who can beat the top koreans are the top non koreans.

a certain someone named nestea might wanna disagree with you about being the number one zerg player in Korea >=/



I didnt say number 1 for either Losira or July. I said either one of them is up for debate for being the 2nd best zerg in korea fully aware that NesTea is the best. Its hard to argue that July and Losira are the 2nd and 3rd best zergs in korea.


well, Id say that there are plenty other zergs competing over that spot aswell. SlayersMin is one



I have a feeling that the zerg player called DongRaeGu is going to pop out soon and dominate. I don't know, there's just something about his style of play that makes me feel like he's going to be one of the best zergs of the game.
"WHAT!? but I thought there was only one way in Canada!" "Yeah, and y'all went the wrong direction on it"
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
June 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#16780
On June 05 2011 11:32 Gnomtastisch wrote:
Show nested quote +
Rax sounds like Racks which is slang for breasts.


Oh, you americans are so funny! In Europe we laugh about such jokes at the age of 6-9


in russia jokes laugh at you
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