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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
June 12 2011 20:14 GMT
#1621
gogo special tactics !
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
June 12 2011 20:14 GMT
#1622
On June 13 2011 05:12 nam nam wrote:
Can someone summarize the last game shortly? I had to go away for a moment and missed it.


Nerchio with a pretty early third going into his fast +1 and ling roach and aslo adding in banelings. while White-Ra went 6 gate pressure off of 2 base with a proxy pylon near Nerchio's 3rd base. FF blocking and killing off all the banes and made nerchio GG ^^
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
June 12 2011 20:14 GMT
#1623
I think if you do the 7RR correctly, the first three Roaches will always be ahead by a bit.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
June 12 2011 20:15 GMT
#1624
On June 13 2011 05:12 Sated wrote:
4 games, 3 different rushes and a 6gate. Much prefer this type of game to boring, macro-heavy, "get to 200/200 and a-move" style games.


We all do, that's because that's not what a real macro game is. In a real macro game you have:

1. Early pressure and skirmishes, well held by the defender
2. Many mid game battles, some back and forth action for specific territorial advantages
3. Full blown lategame war with all relevant tech paths being used in a 25-30 min game

A real macro game with players that can keep up with their multitasking, macro and decision making throughout the game looks pretty goddamn epic. This is why BW people love their games, because most progamers are on such level that every game looks like this. SC2 will probably get there in time, at least in KR.
Arc1
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland849 Posts
June 12 2011 20:15 GMT
#1625
On June 13 2011 05:14 MorroW wrote:
gogo special tactics !


You really like to play against protoss, right?
Nothing to add.
Arachne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
South Africa426 Posts
June 12 2011 20:16 GMT
#1626
On June 13 2011 04:51 Gegbot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 04:48 NickelStarCraft wrote:
That build by Nerchio was GENIUS. Zerg has been really struggling vs the Toss fast forge expand into stargate voidray. (MC Style)

But Nerchio anticipating that build, 7 pools, kills the forge, then expands, then Nydus with mass lings has created a direct counter to the Forge first build. Well done.


Can you call it a counter when it relies entirely on guessing his build before the game?


On Shakuras, yes its a counter. a 7 pool hurts most Toss builds (except for White-ra's close pylon opener), and shakuras you;d prob find that like 70 -80% of the pro toss FFE on that. Even the commentators treat a FFE on shak and Taldarim as standard play now, and I don't think even nestea's spine play could stop it,
If I were a rich man, I wouldn't be here
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 20:16:53
June 12 2011 20:16 GMT
#1627
On June 13 2011 05:15 Arc1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 05:14 MorroW wrote:
gogo special tactics !


You really like to play against protoss, right?

no i just dont want nerchio to win in general

also white ra is awesome
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
June 12 2011 20:16 GMT
#1628
The 3rd place decider match is also casted? and is it bo7? I'm not 100% sure on these even after reading the OP.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
June 12 2011 20:16 GMT
#1629
On June 13 2011 05:15 Arc1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 05:14 MorroW wrote:
gogo special tactics !


You really like to play against protoss, right?

id rather say he dislikes playing ZvZ
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Saliri
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Ireland6 Posts
June 12 2011 20:17 GMT
#1630
I find it really fun that this tournament has been going on for 7 hours, and we're still on 19k viewers.
Arc1
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland849 Posts
June 12 2011 20:17 GMT
#1631
On June 13 2011 05:16 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 05:15 Arc1 wrote:
On June 13 2011 05:14 MorroW wrote:
gogo special tactics !


You really like to play against protoss, right?

no i just dont want nerchio to win in general

also white ra is awesome


Sounds fair, good luck man.
Nothing to add.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
June 12 2011 20:17 GMT
#1632
On June 13 2011 05:14 Inithra wrote:
I'm a complete novice at playing this game, have been watching a lot of games online and been watching this tournament all day. With that said, I don't know what Nerchio was doing in that last game. He was way behind in harvesters and didn't really have any military units until he tried to hold against whitera's push.
Can anyone enlighten me?


A common reaction from zerg to a protoss fast expansion is to take a quick third base, as the protoss isn't able to be aggressive for a while. Nerchio didn't scout the high gateway count of white-ra and instead expected some kind of stargate harass, so he thought he didn't need that many units and then couldn't defend ra's push.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
June 12 2011 20:17 GMT
#1633
On June 13 2011 05:16 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 05:15 Arc1 wrote:
On June 13 2011 05:14 MorroW wrote:
gogo special tactics !


You really like to play against protoss, right?

no i just dont want nerchio to win in general

also white ra is awesome



hehe why you so awesome Morrow.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 12 2011 20:17 GMT
#1634
On June 13 2011 05:14 TheBB wrote:
I think if you do the 7RR correctly, the first three Roaches will always be ahead by a bit.


NONO!!!!!!!

It's mind games!!!!


Especially if there's a zealot blocking a hole in the wall-off, it's fascinating mind games
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bellhop
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States165 Posts
June 12 2011 20:18 GMT
#1635
On June 13 2011 05:17 Saliri wrote:
I find it really fun that this tournament has been going on for 7 hours, and we're still on 19k viewers.


It's some of the best players in Europe right now, how could you not tune in! :D gogo TB!
Ceci n'est pas une disloqueur.
Kamate
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania580 Posts
June 12 2011 20:18 GMT
#1636
GoGo, White Ra!!!
aDd3z
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 20:19:00
June 12 2011 20:18 GMT
#1637
awesome tournament so far
Cj Entus | Effort | Prime | MarineKing | mouz | HasuObs
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
June 12 2011 20:18 GMT
#1638
On June 13 2011 05:14 blae000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 05:12 nam nam wrote:
Can someone summarize the last game shortly? I had to go away for a moment and missed it.


Nerchio with a pretty early third going into his fast +1 and ling roach and aslo adding in banelings. while White-Ra went 6 gate pressure off of 2 base with a proxy pylon near Nerchio's 3rd base. FF blocking and killing off all the banes and made nerchio GG ^^


Thanks
MarcH
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom362 Posts
June 12 2011 20:19 GMT
#1639
WTF nerchio even i can scout better than that
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 20:21:18
June 12 2011 20:19 GMT
#1640
On June 13 2011 05:12 nam nam wrote:
Can someone summarize the last game shortly? I had to go away for a moment and missed it.


ffe into 6 gate for whitera while Nerchio expects stargate play and is putting spores in his base, while having a roach warren (but very few roaches ) and a baneling nest. From there, Whitera walks in with a lot of stuff, Nerchio tries to destroy the army with banelings, but good forcefield saves him. Nerchio doesn't have enough to hold and ggs
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