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On May 28 2011 11:34 starcraft2rush wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:31 Zyxds wrote:On May 28 2011 11:30 gh0un wrote:On May 28 2011 11:24 partisan wrote:On May 28 2011 11:22 gh0un wrote:On May 28 2011 11:19 partisan wrote:On May 28 2011 11:19 gh0un wrote:
What is this even, i cant even start to comprehend it. Squirtle goes for a stupid allin that DDE cannot really scout, DDE however senses that it is coming, does build the bunkers, and still loses.
It doesnt make any sense. Forcefields make no sense. You still need units to hold an all-in. Bunkers don't attack on their own Are you trying to say that he had no units? All his bunkers were full and he even had spare units. Even a third bunker was on its way. If you want to counter argue something, atleast try properly. He didn't have enough units due his decision to make an idle factory/starport. I wasn't saying that he literally had no units, but clearly not enough to hold that attack. If you were trying to say that, why do you bring up that bunkers dont shoot by themselves? Id really like to hear an answer to that. He lost that game when he went for such a greedy play, should really be as simple as that... fe = greedy play? if played properly it can be fine..squirtle just 1 gate fe'd before he even threw down a cyber core and won handily. squirtle is just the better player..cut and dried plain and simple outplayed in both games.
LOL yes fe is actually greedy. teching straight to starport after fe is on another level
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kawaii should easily 2-0. such good tvz
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gretorp... *facepalm*..you don't brag about how you massaged another man for an hour... XD
If you guys remember the old daily, Day9 did vouch for how nice his massages were, though..
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On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:33 Drazerk wrote:Next Match is about to begin  Moonglade vs Kawaiirice  First map will be on Crevasse Game One is now starting Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner while Kawaiirice is located in the top left corner
2:05
Expansion first for Moonglade
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On May 28 2011 11:34 starcraft2rush wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:31 Zyxds wrote:On May 28 2011 11:30 gh0un wrote:On May 28 2011 11:24 partisan wrote:On May 28 2011 11:22 gh0un wrote:On May 28 2011 11:19 partisan wrote:On May 28 2011 11:19 gh0un wrote:
What is this even, i cant even start to comprehend it. Squirtle goes for a stupid allin that DDE cannot really scout, DDE however senses that it is coming, does build the bunkers, and still loses.
It doesnt make any sense. Forcefields make no sense. You still need units to hold an all-in. Bunkers don't attack on their own Are you trying to say that he had no units? All his bunkers were full and he even had spare units. Even a third bunker was on its way. If you want to counter argue something, atleast try properly. He didn't have enough units due his decision to make an idle factory/starport. I wasn't saying that he literally had no units, but clearly not enough to hold that attack. If you were trying to say that, why do you bring up that bunkers dont shoot by themselves? Id really like to hear an answer to that. He lost that game when he went for such a greedy play, should really be as simple as that... fe = greedy play? if played properly it can be fine..squirtle just 1 gate fe'd before he even threw down a cyber core and won handily. squirtle is just the better player..cut and dried plain and simple outplayed in both games.
I think the point most people are trying to make is that fe into tech is just a tad bit too greedy to handle a one base all-in.
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On May 28 2011 11:33 gh0un wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:29 AlBundy wrote:On May 28 2011 11:27 gh0un wrote:On May 28 2011 11:24 AlBundy wrote:On May 28 2011 11:22 gh0un wrote:On May 28 2011 11:19 partisan wrote:On May 28 2011 11:19 gh0un wrote:
What is this even, i cant even start to comprehend it. Squirtle goes for a stupid allin that DDE cannot really scout, DDE however senses that it is coming, does build the bunkers, and still loses.
It doesnt make any sense. Forcefields make no sense. You still need units to hold an all-in. Bunkers don't attack on their own Are you trying to say that he had no units? All his bunkers were full and he even had spare units. Even a third bunker was on its way. If you want to counter argue something, atleast try properly. You must be new here, so here's a tip; refrain from arguing and complaining about balance in LR threads. What does this even have to do with balance. Some people here really have problems comprehending other people´s posts. Here´s a tip: if you didnt understand what you just read, dont bother. You said "forcefields make no sense". I'm done talking to you. I didnt know that "doesnt make any sense" equals to "thats imbalanced". Thanks for clearing it up buddy.
the original post crys of balance whine.
"i cant comprehend it"
"stupid all in, cant be scouted"
"dde senses it and counters it and still loses"
"ff makes no sense"
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On May 28 2011 11:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:34 FallDownMarigold wrote:On May 28 2011 11:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Those storms just made that game so one sided. Nice play by squirtle. 3/3 on liquibets :B GOGO KawaiiRice! 3/3 too. I have Moonglade and Strelok.... Kinda regretting picking Moonglade now tho because come to think of it he hasn't really won much lately has he? Yea... but KawaiiRice has a fairly poor record in NASL, I believe. He has been playing well in other things like WCG and EG Master's cup, so I have faith in him.
Moonglade is 2-4, Kawaii is 1-5, so neither have really had a stellar NASL showing.
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On May 28 2011 11:34 starcraft2rush wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:31 Zyxds wrote:On May 28 2011 11:30 gh0un wrote:On May 28 2011 11:24 partisan wrote:On May 28 2011 11:22 gh0un wrote:On May 28 2011 11:19 partisan wrote:On May 28 2011 11:19 gh0un wrote:
What is this even, i cant even start to comprehend it. Squirtle goes for a stupid allin that DDE cannot really scout, DDE however senses that it is coming, does build the bunkers, and still loses.
It doesnt make any sense. Forcefields make no sense. You still need units to hold an all-in. Bunkers don't attack on their own Are you trying to say that he had no units? All his bunkers were full and he even had spare units. Even a third bunker was on its way. If you want to counter argue something, atleast try properly. He didn't have enough units due his decision to make an idle factory/starport. I wasn't saying that he literally had no units, but clearly not enough to hold that attack. If you were trying to say that, why do you bring up that bunkers dont shoot by themselves? Id really like to hear an answer to that. He lost that game when he went for such a greedy play, should really be as simple as that... fe = greedy play? if played properly it can be fine..squirtle just 1 gate fe'd before he even threw down a cyber core and won handily. squirtle is just the better player..cut and dried plain and simple outplayed in both games.
Not just FEing, but making 2 tech buildings that do nothing when pressured apparently (factory > starport) is indeed rather greedy play. He could FE and transition into more racks first for example.
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On May 28 2011 11:34 starcraft2rush wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:31 Zyxds wrote:On May 28 2011 11:30 gh0un wrote:On May 28 2011 11:24 partisan wrote:On May 28 2011 11:22 gh0un wrote:On May 28 2011 11:19 partisan wrote:On May 28 2011 11:19 gh0un wrote:
What is this even, i cant even start to comprehend it. Squirtle goes for a stupid allin that DDE cannot really scout, DDE however senses that it is coming, does build the bunkers, and still loses.
It doesnt make any sense. Forcefields make no sense. You still need units to hold an all-in. Bunkers don't attack on their own Are you trying to say that he had no units? All his bunkers were full and he even had spare units. Even a third bunker was on its way. If you want to counter argue something, atleast try properly. He didn't have enough units due his decision to make an idle factory/starport. I wasn't saying that he literally had no units, but clearly not enough to hold that attack. If you were trying to say that, why do you bring up that bunkers dont shoot by themselves? Id really like to hear an answer to that. He lost that game when he went for such a greedy play, should really be as simple as that... fe = greedy play? if played properly it can be fine..squirtle just 1 gate fe'd before he even threw down a cyber core and won handily. squirtle is just the better player..cut and dried plain and simple outplayed in both games.
Not by itself, no, but when you tech up at the same time and don't have the structures to make units to defend an attack I think it's considered greedy...
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On May 28 2011 11:36 akalarry wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:34 starcraft2rush wrote:On May 28 2011 11:31 Zyxds wrote:On May 28 2011 11:30 gh0un wrote:On May 28 2011 11:24 partisan wrote:On May 28 2011 11:22 gh0un wrote:On May 28 2011 11:19 partisan wrote:On May 28 2011 11:19 gh0un wrote:
What is this even, i cant even start to comprehend it. Squirtle goes for a stupid allin that DDE cannot really scout, DDE however senses that it is coming, does build the bunkers, and still loses.
It doesnt make any sense. Forcefields make no sense. You still need units to hold an all-in. Bunkers don't attack on their own Are you trying to say that he had no units? All his bunkers were full and he even had spare units. Even a third bunker was on its way. If you want to counter argue something, atleast try properly. He didn't have enough units due his decision to make an idle factory/starport. I wasn't saying that he literally had no units, but clearly not enough to hold that attack. If you were trying to say that, why do you bring up that bunkers dont shoot by themselves? Id really like to hear an answer to that. He lost that game when he went for such a greedy play, should really be as simple as that... fe = greedy play? if played properly it can be fine..squirtle just 1 gate fe'd before he even threw down a cyber core and won handily. squirtle is just the better player..cut and dried plain and simple outplayed in both games. LOL yes fe is actually greedy. teching straight to starport after fe is on another level
1 rax FE is not greedy...however if it was 15cc/nexus, thats greedy imo
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On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:33 Drazerk wrote:Next Match is about to begin Moonglade vs Kawaiirice First map will be on Crevasse Game One is now starting Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner while Kawaiirice is located in the top left corner 2:05 Expansion first for Moonglade
3:30
Factory is in production now
Few lings are being constructed for Moonglade along with his queens
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Separated at birth ![[image loading]](http://bushluv.tripod.com/roxbury/rstone.jpg)
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Broadcaster started an ad in the middle of the game, lmao.
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Wow. A ZvT series followed up by another ZvT with even better players. This is the place to learn some ZvT TvZ.
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On May 28 2011 11:36 1Eris1 wrote:
kawaii should easily 2-0. such good tvz
That's hard to say, mOOnGLaDe's best is ZvT, should be good to watch.
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subpar is the perfect definition for the north american players besides idra, select, kiwikaki and maybe a few others
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Was Squirtle the guy who got pwned by marine king? Wow, the difference in skill calibers is just huge. I don't think Terran scouted the high Templar. Regardless it is impossible to actually emp Templar before the engagement if pro toss controls correctly. EMP sentries yes, but not Templar. Just have Templar at the back and storm when Terran stims and commits. Terran has to emp or snipe Templar mid battle which is harder.
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On May 28 2011 11:37 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:33 Drazerk wrote:Next Match is about to begin Moonglade vs Kawaiirice First map will be on Crevasse Game One is now starting Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner while Kawaiirice is located in the top left corner 2:05 Expansion first for Moonglade 3:30 Factory is in production now Few lings are being constructed for Moonglade along with his queens
5:00
Blue flame is being researched for Kawaiirice while getting his expansion
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This is going to be messy for Glade I feel
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On May 28 2011 11:39 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:37 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:33 Drazerk wrote:Next Match is about to begin Moonglade vs Kawaiirice First map will be on Crevasse Game One is now starting Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner while Kawaiirice is located in the top left corner 2:05 Expansion first for Moonglade 3:30 Factory is in production now Few lings are being constructed for Moonglade along with his queens 5:00 Blue flame is being researched for Kawaiirice while getting his expansion
6:30
Roach warren has finished and ling speed is almost done
Hellions are now moving across the map
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