• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:28
CEST 04:28
KST 11:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy16ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool51Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Can I Add Timer & APM Count? [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group E [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1763 users

NASL Week 7 Day 3 - Page 22

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 46 Next All
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
May 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#421
On May 28 2011 11:34 starcraft2rush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 11:31 Zyxds wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:30 gh0un wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:24 partisan wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:22 gh0un wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:19 partisan wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:19 gh0un wrote:
What is this even, i cant even start to comprehend it. Squirtle goes for a stupid allin that DDE cannot really scout, DDE however senses that it is coming, does build the bunkers, and still loses.
It doesnt make any sense. Forcefields make no sense.



You still need units to hold an all-in. Bunkers don't attack on their own


Are you trying to say that he had no units? All his bunkers were full and he even had spare units.
Even a third bunker was on its way. If you want to counter argue something, atleast try properly.



He didn't have enough units due his decision to make an idle factory/starport. I wasn't saying that he literally had no units, but clearly not enough to hold that attack.


If you were trying to say that, why do you bring up that bunkers dont shoot by themselves?
Id really like to hear an answer to that.


He lost that game when he went for such a greedy play, should really be as simple as that...


fe = greedy play? if played properly it can be fine..squirtle just 1 gate fe'd before he even threw down a cyber core and won handily.

squirtle is just the better player..cut and dried plain and simple outplayed in both games.


LOL yes fe is actually greedy. teching straight to starport after fe is on another level
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#422
kawaii should easily 2-0. such good tvz
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#423
gretorp... *facepalm*..you don't brag about how you massaged another man for an hour... XD

If you guys remember the old daily, Day9 did vouch for how nice his massages were, though..
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#424
On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 11:33 Drazerk wrote:
Next Match is about to begin

Moonglade vs Kawaiirice

First map will be on Crevasse


Game One is now starting

Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner

while Kawaiirice is located in the top left corner


2:05

Expansion first for Moonglade
partisan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States783 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 02:37:17
May 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#425
On May 28 2011 11:34 starcraft2rush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 11:31 Zyxds wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:30 gh0un wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:24 partisan wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:22 gh0un wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:19 partisan wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:19 gh0un wrote:
What is this even, i cant even start to comprehend it. Squirtle goes for a stupid allin that DDE cannot really scout, DDE however senses that it is coming, does build the bunkers, and still loses.
It doesnt make any sense. Forcefields make no sense.



You still need units to hold an all-in. Bunkers don't attack on their own


Are you trying to say that he had no units? All his bunkers were full and he even had spare units.
Even a third bunker was on its way. If you want to counter argue something, atleast try properly.



He didn't have enough units due his decision to make an idle factory/starport. I wasn't saying that he literally had no units, but clearly not enough to hold that attack.


If you were trying to say that, why do you bring up that bunkers dont shoot by themselves?
Id really like to hear an answer to that.


He lost that game when he went for such a greedy play, should really be as simple as that...


fe = greedy play? if played properly it can be fine..squirtle just 1 gate fe'd before he even threw down a cyber core and won handily.

squirtle is just the better player..cut and dried plain and simple outplayed in both games.



I think the point most people are trying to make is that fe into tech is just a tad bit too greedy to handle a one base all-in.

Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#426
On May 28 2011 11:33 gh0un wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 11:29 AlBundy wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:27 gh0un wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:24 AlBundy wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:22 gh0un wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:19 partisan wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:19 gh0un wrote:
What is this even, i cant even start to comprehend it. Squirtle goes for a stupid allin that DDE cannot really scout, DDE however senses that it is coming, does build the bunkers, and still loses.
It doesnt make any sense. Forcefields make no sense.



You still need units to hold an all-in. Bunkers don't attack on their own


Are you trying to say that he had no units? All his bunkers were full and he even had spare units.
Even a third bunker was on its way. If you want to counter argue something, atleast try properly.

You must be new here, so here's a tip; refrain from arguing and complaining about balance in LR threads.



What does this even have to do with balance. Some people here really have problems comprehending other people´s posts.
Here´s a tip: if you didnt understand what you just read, dont bother.

You said "forcefields make no sense". I'm done talking to you.


I didnt know that "doesnt make any sense" equals to "thats imbalanced".
Thanks for clearing it up buddy.


the original post crys of balance whine.

"i cant comprehend it"
"stupid all in, cant be scouted"
"dde senses it and counters it and still loses"
"ff makes no sense"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#427
On May 28 2011 11:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 11:34 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Those storms just made that game so one sided. Nice play by squirtle. 3/3 on liquibets :B GOGO KawaiiRice!


3/3 too. I have Moonglade and Strelok.... Kinda regretting picking Moonglade now tho because come to think of it he hasn't really won much lately has he?

Yea... but KawaiiRice has a fairly poor record in NASL, I believe. He has been playing well in other things like WCG and EG Master's cup, so I have faith in him.

Moonglade is 2-4, Kawaii is 1-5, so neither have really had a stellar NASL showing.
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
May 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#428
On May 28 2011 11:34 starcraft2rush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 11:31 Zyxds wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:30 gh0un wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:24 partisan wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:22 gh0un wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:19 partisan wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:19 gh0un wrote:
What is this even, i cant even start to comprehend it. Squirtle goes for a stupid allin that DDE cannot really scout, DDE however senses that it is coming, does build the bunkers, and still loses.
It doesnt make any sense. Forcefields make no sense.



You still need units to hold an all-in. Bunkers don't attack on their own


Are you trying to say that he had no units? All his bunkers were full and he even had spare units.
Even a third bunker was on its way. If you want to counter argue something, atleast try properly.



He didn't have enough units due his decision to make an idle factory/starport. I wasn't saying that he literally had no units, but clearly not enough to hold that attack.


If you were trying to say that, why do you bring up that bunkers dont shoot by themselves?
Id really like to hear an answer to that.


He lost that game when he went for such a greedy play, should really be as simple as that...


fe = greedy play? if played properly it can be fine..squirtle just 1 gate fe'd before he even threw down a cyber core and won handily.

squirtle is just the better player..cut and dried plain and simple outplayed in both games.


Not just FEing, but making 2 tech buildings that do nothing when pressured apparently (factory > starport) is indeed rather greedy play. He could FE and transition into more racks first for example.
Zyxds
Profile Joined September 2010
United States91 Posts
May 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#429
On May 28 2011 11:34 starcraft2rush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 11:31 Zyxds wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:30 gh0un wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:24 partisan wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:22 gh0un wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:19 partisan wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:19 gh0un wrote:
What is this even, i cant even start to comprehend it. Squirtle goes for a stupid allin that DDE cannot really scout, DDE however senses that it is coming, does build the bunkers, and still loses.
It doesnt make any sense. Forcefields make no sense.



You still need units to hold an all-in. Bunkers don't attack on their own


Are you trying to say that he had no units? All his bunkers were full and he even had spare units.
Even a third bunker was on its way. If you want to counter argue something, atleast try properly.



He didn't have enough units due his decision to make an idle factory/starport. I wasn't saying that he literally had no units, but clearly not enough to hold that attack.


If you were trying to say that, why do you bring up that bunkers dont shoot by themselves?
Id really like to hear an answer to that.


He lost that game when he went for such a greedy play, should really be as simple as that...


fe = greedy play? if played properly it can be fine..squirtle just 1 gate fe'd before he even threw down a cyber core and won handily.

squirtle is just the better player..cut and dried plain and simple outplayed in both games.


Not by itself, no, but when you tech up at the same time and don't have the structures to make units to defend an attack I think it's considered greedy...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention to arrive safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: Wow! What a ride!
mistgun_EU
Profile Joined October 2010
309 Posts
May 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#430
On May 28 2011 11:36 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 11:34 starcraft2rush wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:31 Zyxds wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:30 gh0un wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:24 partisan wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:22 gh0un wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:19 partisan wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:19 gh0un wrote:
What is this even, i cant even start to comprehend it. Squirtle goes for a stupid allin that DDE cannot really scout, DDE however senses that it is coming, does build the bunkers, and still loses.
It doesnt make any sense. Forcefields make no sense.



You still need units to hold an all-in. Bunkers don't attack on their own


Are you trying to say that he had no units? All his bunkers were full and he even had spare units.
Even a third bunker was on its way. If you want to counter argue something, atleast try properly.



He didn't have enough units due his decision to make an idle factory/starport. I wasn't saying that he literally had no units, but clearly not enough to hold that attack.


If you were trying to say that, why do you bring up that bunkers dont shoot by themselves?
Id really like to hear an answer to that.


He lost that game when he went for such a greedy play, should really be as simple as that...


fe = greedy play? if played properly it can be fine..squirtle just 1 gate fe'd before he even threw down a cyber core and won handily.

squirtle is just the better player..cut and dried plain and simple outplayed in both games.


LOL yes fe is actually greedy. teching straight to starport after fe is on another level


1 rax FE is not greedy...however if it was 15cc/nexus, thats greedy imo
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#431
On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:33 Drazerk wrote:
Next Match is about to begin

Moonglade vs Kawaiirice

First map will be on Crevasse


Game One is now starting

Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner

while Kawaiirice is located in the top left corner


2:05

Expansion first for Moonglade


3:30

Factory is in production now

Few lings are being constructed for Moonglade along with his queens
MadisonStreet
Profile Joined June 2010
United States161 Posts
May 28 2011 02:38 GMT
#432
Separated at birth [image loading]

[image loading]
Set the foundation - Seek the result - Seize the day
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
May 28 2011 02:38 GMT
#433
Broadcaster started an ad in the middle of the game, lmao.
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
May 28 2011 02:38 GMT
#434
Wow. A ZvT series followed up by another ZvT with even better players. This is the place to learn some ZvT TvZ.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
May 28 2011 02:38 GMT
#435
On May 28 2011 11:36 1Eris1 wrote:
kawaii should easily 2-0. such good tvz


That's hard to say, mOOnGLaDe's best is ZvT, should be good to watch.
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
May 28 2011 02:38 GMT
#436
subpar is the perfect definition for the north american players besides idra, select, kiwikaki and maybe a few others
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
May 28 2011 02:38 GMT
#437
Was Squirtle the guy who got pwned by marine king? Wow, the difference in skill calibers is just huge. I don't think Terran scouted the high Templar. Regardless it is impossible to actually emp Templar before the engagement if pro toss controls correctly. EMP sentries yes, but not Templar. Just have Templar at the back and storm when Terran stims and commits. Terran has to emp or snipe Templar mid battle which is harder.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 28 2011 02:39 GMT
#438
On May 28 2011 11:37 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:33 Drazerk wrote:
Next Match is about to begin

Moonglade vs Kawaiirice

First map will be on Crevasse


Game One is now starting

Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner

while Kawaiirice is located in the top left corner


2:05

Expansion first for Moonglade


3:30

Factory is in production now

Few lings are being constructed for Moonglade along with his queens


5:00

Blue flame is being researched for Kawaiirice while getting his expansion



Spectorials
Profile Joined October 2010
558 Posts
May 28 2011 02:39 GMT
#439
This is going to be messy for Glade I feel
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 28 2011 02:40 GMT
#440
On May 28 2011 11:39 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 11:37 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:33 Drazerk wrote:
Next Match is about to begin

Moonglade vs Kawaiirice

First map will be on Crevasse


Game One is now starting

Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner

while Kawaiirice is located in the top left corner


2:05

Expansion first for Moonglade


3:30

Factory is in production now

Few lings are being constructed for Moonglade along with his queens


5:00

Blue flame is being researched for Kawaiirice while getting his expansion



6:30

Roach warren has finished and ling speed is almost done

Hellions are now moving across the map
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 32m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 222
NeuroSwarm 162
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 101
NaDa 27
JulyZerg 16
GoRush 6
Dota 2
capcasts159
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 632
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv3528
minikerr11
Other Games
summit1g11980
shahzam416
ViBE118
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1108
BasetradeTV84
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 78
• Sammyuel 75
• davetesta40
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki27
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21503
League of Legends
• Doublelift5444
Other Games
• Scarra2068
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
4h 32m
Cure vs Rogue
Maru vs TBD
MaxPax vs TBD
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
11h 32m
BSL
16h 32m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 7h
Wardi Open
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.