EPTOn May 27 2011 12:42 travis wrote:
yes moman did it way too late and at a very dumb timing
yes moman did it way too late and at a very dumb timing
Doesn't really work if scouted as well. It should hit before hallucinate even comes into effect.
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
Doesn't really work if scouted as well. It should hit before hallucinate even comes into effect. | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
Seriously, F + click. Any competent Protoss should be able to execute them well. | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
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On May 27 2011 12:45 TheHova wrote: Doesn't really work if scouted as well. It should hit before hallucinate even comes into effect. yes definitely | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On May 27 2011 12:45 travis wrote: "holy crap, this is a protoss-..." cruncher's control was excellent, ppl are just ignorant haaaaaaters lol yeah. People have already made their conclusion on Cruncher, now all they do is just find evidence to back it ignoring regardless of anything that speaks to the contrary | ||
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MaxField
United States2386 Posts
On May 27 2011 12:45 travis wrote: "holy crap, this is a protoss-..." cruncher's control was excellent, ppl are just ignorant haaaaaaters I am not ignorant, but i am definitely a Cruncher hater. It just hurts to see good zergs (not MoMan, he played horrible) lose to either ff or the void/colossus death orb. I think orb sounds more intense than ball. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On May 27 2011 12:39 jdseemoreglass wrote: But my point is, you cannot attack into a protoss with colossi and forcefields. So how does Zerg attack. Drops right? You could say nydus, but it's basically the same thing as drops, except more effective. You cannot trade effectively into a choke against a defensive protoss, so still the only option I can think of is all in drop play. Someone said mutas but all it takes is a couple cannons and blink to shut that down. You can not go Roach/Hydra and then wait for the Protoss to get 200/200 with Colossi and forcefields. Moman got to a point where he would have had to drop or Nydus but if he had attacked with burrow/tunneling claws he could have hit before that first Colossus got out for Cruncher. Moman just played that really passively with an army that's good to be aggressive with. He let the Protoss split the map really easily, he left him get his third base for free entirely. It's like Terran's standard composition going up against Brood Lord/Corruptor/Infestor at 200/200... Does it mean all they can do is all in against Zerg? Absolutely not, you can do tons of stuff to not let them get to that point while you have a stronger mid-game composition. You can't sit on a good mid-game composition and then fight their stronger more cost effective composition... That's basically what Moman did with his composition, strong to put on pressure with, then he just sat back and let Cruncher get equal bases with him... He got his third completely uncontested. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On May 27 2011 12:45 L3g3nd_ wrote: Love how its, CrunCher's trash he going to lose, then when CrunCher wins its, Moman sucks any toss woulda won that Seriously? Moman played like absolute shit those two games. He can't even do a roach/ling all in correctly. Props to cruncher, but don't fucking prop him up, Moman lost those games | ||
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SnuggleZhenya
596 Posts
On May 27 2011 12:44 Tewks44 wrote: how do you counter mass FFs.... "gg" He had burrow, the forcefields aren't what made him gg really, he just didn't have enough to attack Cruncher's army, he was too far behind. | ||
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
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Meself
Estonia552 Posts
On May 27 2011 12:45 Xxavi wrote: Oh Cruncher, all-inning or turtling all the time. Boring to watch  The pendulums's swinging nicely from one end to the other. And you want it to stop dead in the middle? | ||
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quiet noise
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On May 27 2011 12:45 travis wrote: "holy crap, this is a protoss-..." cruncher's control was excellent, ppl are just ignorant haaaaaaters hey i like you travis, yours posts in this thread are like diamonds among turds | ||
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Tx-MisfiT
United States283 Posts
On May 27 2011 12:43 Goibon wrote: Great player lol He's so far ahead it doesn't matter though It wasn't that, he queued those probes into that nexus instead of risking a probe transfer. It would have been silly to have the expo revealed to some maynarding workers  | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
On May 27 2011 12:45 travis wrote: "holy crap, this is a protoss-..." cruncher's control was excellent, ppl are just ignorant haaaaaaters cruncher's control is excellent, and his decision making wasn't bad, but I feel that he won because moman just lost the game. His build was tailored from the start to a roach-ling all-in, and moman simply obliged him and didn't do anything to get ahead. some games you feel impressed by someone doing something brilliant or at least clever, the second and third games though I feel that moman just lost, and that any competent protoss would have won in cruncher's position. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6668 Posts
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
On May 27 2011 12:45 schmutttt wrote: While true, there's something to be said about not wasting unnecessary force fields. So many baddies on the ladder(even as far up as low GM league) will spam sometimes triple the amount needed. While cruncher's forcefields surely weren't anything we haven't seen before they surely must be said to have been good? Almost no waste, little overlap, good timing.Forcefields aren't hard, it is like saying ZOMG INCREDIBLE FUNGAL MICRO. Seriously, F + click. Any competent Protoss should be able to execute them well. | ||
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MechKing
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On May 27 2011 12:46 quiet noise wrote: hey i like you travis, yours posts in this thread are like diamonds among turds i like you too because you are my bad multitasking brother | ||
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zerious
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