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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 04:41:33
May 23 2011 04:40 GMT
#1421
Idra just didn't play well today, that's all there was to it really. There is no way any zerg in the world should be able to make a comeback from that kind of deficit. I've seen idra play lategame ZvZ and mass infestors plenty.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 04:45:26
May 23 2011 04:41 GMT
#1422
Idra can practice with players like Ret, Sen, etc., especially now that he's already played Sen, but when you take into account all the other events going on in EU/NA, it becomes more understandable why they might be hesitant to get together and train.

Idra's remaining opponents are both Terrans, though, so I imagine he'll be working on his ZvT in the coming days.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
May 23 2011 04:44 GMT
#1423
Idra will win his next 2 matches. Its not even debateable. Idra's pvt is unstoppable outside of korea.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 04:54:17
May 23 2011 04:46 GMT
#1424
On May 23 2011 12:31 Hazu~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 12:30 Dexington wrote:
Idra's ZvZ is awful it seems


IdrA himself said he wasn't so sure about his ZvZ since there's pretty much no good zerg player on NA server to play against.


How is it that every time Idra loses there is always an excuse to be found? Balance, race, wrong type of practice. Don't get me wrong, he is an amazing player and would crush me with both his hands tied behind his back. But this seems very disrespectful to players that won vs him, give them some credit plz? I mean really, is it not possible that someone would beat Idra simply because they are better at the game atm?

On a positive note, first time watching ZvZ and I really enjoyed it, as well as NASL in general, thanks!
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
Coolwhip
Profile Joined March 2011
927 Posts
May 23 2011 04:47 GMT
#1425
On May 23 2011 13:16 Odien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 13:15 hoor3x wrote:
did boxer not play tonight?

Nope, Socke had no time to reschedule so Boxer got the 2-0 walk over.


What can be more important than playing against Boxer?
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
May 23 2011 04:49 GMT
#1426
On May 23 2011 13:47 Coolwhip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 13:16 Odien wrote:
On May 23 2011 13:15 hoor3x wrote:
did boxer not play tonight?

Nope, Socke had no time to reschedule so Boxer got the 2-0 walk over.


What can be more important than playing against Boxer?

Seriously, what disrespect to the emperor. Now I'm a Socke anti-fan. =)
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
May 23 2011 04:49 GMT
#1427
On May 23 2011 13:44 sermokala wrote:
Idra will win his next 2 matches. Its not even debateable. Idra's pvt is unstoppable outside of korea.


Idra has not played Boxer in his division of NASL while Boxer is leading in that same division. Therefore your point is pretty useless and clueless.

You did not live in Korea when Idra's in Korea, who are you to testify that they did all practice ZvZ together? Even now, if such ZvZ practice were to take place, would they call you up to observe? Stop with your irresponsible speculation.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
May 23 2011 04:52 GMT
#1428
On May 23 2011 12:30 Johnzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 12:28 Daniel C wrote:
manner gg from idra


how come no one makes a comment like this whenever ANY OTHER PLAYER says gg?

Because almost any other player doesn't have an inflated sense of their relative skill and disses competing players only to be completely outclassed by them later and blame it on imbalance or a build order win.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
May 23 2011 05:06 GMT
#1429
I'm disappointed that NASL couldn't do an interview with Zenio after that match. Lag or not it would've been awesome. They should've also requested a backhand slap for fun.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Lotar
Profile Joined September 2010
132 Posts
May 23 2011 05:08 GMT
#1430
I don't want to point fingers, but I note that anyone who's ever been on a show with JP has lost their match today. It can't be a coincidence.
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
May 23 2011 05:15 GMT
#1431
jp has that powa
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
May 23 2011 05:18 GMT
#1432
On May 23 2011 14:06 Horse...falcon wrote:
I'm disappointed that NASL couldn't do an interview with Zenio after that match. Lag or not it would've been awesome. They should've also requested a backhand slap for fun.


Well considering Zenio doesn't speak English...actually nvm, an interview would have been awesome.
SC2Chaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States36 Posts
May 23 2011 05:24 GMT
#1433
Any chance we get to see how the players present themselves IRL is cool.
Frozenserpent
Profile Joined September 2007
United States143 Posts
May 23 2011 05:29 GMT
#1434
On May 23 2011 12:30 Johnzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 12:28 Daniel C wrote:
manner gg from idra


how come no one makes a comment like this whenever ANY OTHER PLAYER says gg?


That's kind of the reason some people don't say gg all the time. When you say gg often, it loses some meaning. If you say gg only sparingly, it adds more meaning behind your gg's. For a random person a gg is given as a formality. To give it out as a compliment and to have it be significant, you need to have high standards on when you give a gg.

rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
May 23 2011 05:43 GMT
#1435
On May 23 2011 13:39 j3i wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 13:30 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 23 2011 13:17 0neder wrote:
The SC2 foreigner scene is saddening. In BW, we were so far behind that we couldn't catch up. Now in SC2, tons of foreigners have the chance to be on the same level, but they abandon it because they don't want to sacrifice what it takes (more practice, moving to Korea, etc.) - I bet a lot of foreigners will have regrets in a few years, and even more fans will have regrets that the foreigner players decided not to try to be the best in exchange for the security of some chump change small prize pot online tourneys.



Foreign sc2 actually offers way more money for the average player than korea


I think his point is that foreigners are too content with being, as you said, "average"


The foreigner scene has, is ,and possibly always will be average compared to the korean scene. It's not exactly rocket science. About time people start realizing that the gap is going to widen with time, not shrink. It was exactly the same way with sc1.
The Notorious Winkles
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
May 23 2011 06:01 GMT
#1436
Boxer and sen looks like they're gonna take the group imo, Boxer can beat the other 2 quite easily and I will bet 50/50 him vs idra, looking good for the emperor!
IMNestea's biggest fan.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
May 23 2011 06:03 GMT
#1437
On May 23 2011 14:18 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 14:06 Horse...falcon wrote:
I'm disappointed that NASL couldn't do an interview with Zenio after that match. Lag or not it would've been awesome. They should've also requested a backhand slap for fun.


Well considering Zenio doesn't speak English...actually nvm, an interview would have been awesome.


Even better they could've had Huk "translate" for Zenio.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 06:23:30
May 23 2011 06:22 GMT
#1438
On May 23 2011 13:46 iokke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 12:31 Hazu~ wrote:
On May 23 2011 12:30 Dexington wrote:
Idra's ZvZ is awful it seems


IdrA himself said he wasn't so sure about his ZvZ since there's pretty much no good zerg player on NA server to play against.


How is it that every time Idra loses there is always an excuse to be found? Balance, race, wrong type of practice. Don't get me wrong, he is an amazing player and would crush me with both his hands tied behind his back. But this seems very disrespectful to players that won vs him, give them some credit plz? I mean really, is it not possible that someone would beat Idra simply because they are better at the game atm?

On a positive note, first time watching ZvZ and I really enjoyed it, as well as NASL in general, thanks!

It's a pretty good point though. Who does IdrA have to practice ZvZ with? I mean there aren't any NA zergs on his level or on the level of many of any koreans. I mean the only other really strong zerg is NA is sheth. And when IdrA played him in a showmatch he easily handled Sheth.

Incidentally this is the same thing Select said way back when he lost to IdrA in MLG. He basically said there aren't any extremely strong zergs in NA to practice with so he had no idea how to play TvZ at the time.

IdrA probably needs to get on EU and try to get a bunch of practice there. Zergs like dimaga, darkforce, nerchio, ret etc. are much better practice than anything on the NA server. For whatever reason there just aren't that many strong zergs in NA.

And this isn't meant to take anything away from Zenio (or Sen for that matter). They were simply better than IdrA and absolutely deserved to win. The point of this is IdrA will likely never be able to beat them until he can find proper practice partners.
Vipsanius
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands708 Posts
May 23 2011 06:23 GMT
#1439
On May 23 2011 15:03 Horse...falcon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 14:18 red4ce wrote:
On May 23 2011 14:06 Horse...falcon wrote:
I'm disappointed that NASL couldn't do an interview with Zenio after that match. Lag or not it would've been awesome. They should've also requested a backhand slap for fun.


Well considering Zenio doesn't speak English...actually nvm, an interview would have been awesome.


Even better they could've had Huk "translate" for Zenio.


Actually Zenio translates Korean to English and the other way around in the oGs house.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
May 23 2011 06:26 GMT
#1440
Going to be an awesome finish for this group. Sen should have a spot in the top 2 secured but any of Zenio, IdrA and Boxer could take that second one.
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