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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 15 2011 00:09 GMT
#2161
On September 15 2011 09:07 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 09:03 Asha` wrote:
Damn man, Taeja is so on the ball with all these little scouting clues.

Looks like Squirtle is setting up for almost the exact same midgame as last time.

---

I'm not sure if it was deliberate, but Squirtle not using blink in the fight and then finally revealing it to chase down the medivacs that overstayed their welcome was awesome. I'd like to think that was an intentional choice having identified he'd win the engagement without using it anyway.

He wanted to chip away at the units trapped infront/side of the forcefields before blinking in. No use losing more stalkers than you need/should.


No I meant, as opposed to blinking any stalkers back in while engaging at his choke with standard blink micro, he didn't show it at all and then finally BLUNK Taeja =p

===

Holy shit Taeja is good with ghosts.
LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
September 15 2011 00:09 GMT
#2162
haha, ghosts so good.
woobsauce
Profile Joined August 2011
United States491 Posts
September 15 2011 00:09 GMT
#2163
That game was godly. Thank you squirtle, TaeJa, and ESV O_O My brain just exploded from how sick that game was. @_@
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 00:10:23
September 15 2011 00:09 GMT
#2164
Nooooooooo, Squirtle.

Oh well. It's Taeja, so it's all right.

Does Squirtle qualify for the monthly finals?
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 00:10:42
September 15 2011 00:10 GMT
#2165
If he had feedback the ghosts it would be a even battle, instead Taeja lost about 40 supply against 100 supply worth of maxed Squirtle. I'm not sure about Squirtles upgrades but thought I saw them chrono´d. Should switch to colossus also.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
September 15 2011 00:10 GMT
#2166
This is why I can't take this matchup seriously.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 15 2011 00:11 GMT
#2167
On September 15 2011 09:09 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 09:07 Telcontar wrote:
On September 15 2011 09:03 Asha` wrote:
Damn man, Taeja is so on the ball with all these little scouting clues.

Looks like Squirtle is setting up for almost the exact same midgame as last time.

---

I'm not sure if it was deliberate, but Squirtle not using blink in the fight and then finally revealing it to chase down the medivacs that overstayed their welcome was awesome. I'd like to think that was an intentional choice having identified he'd win the engagement without using it anyway.

He wanted to chip away at the units trapped infront/side of the forcefields before blinking in. No use losing more stalkers than you need/should.


No I meant, as opposed to blinking any stalkers back in while engaging at his choke with standard blink micro, he didn't show it at all and then finally BLUNK Taeja =p

===

Holy shit Taeja is good with ghosts.

Ahh, got ya. Yeah, he probably wanted to catch Taeja's medivacs by surprise.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 15 2011 00:11 GMT
#2168
Ghosts pretty good... :p
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
September 15 2011 00:11 GMT
#2169
Zealot/Archon doesn't seem like an effective composition at 200/200. Almost never see a good engagement with it. The zealots can't really get good surface area.

Oh, and ghosts. Ghosts are good.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 15 2011 00:12 GMT
#2170
This was like watching two samurai warriors spend ten minutes in preparations and feint moves, reading each other's minds, and finally engage with a couple of deadly gosu slashes to end it. 10/10
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 00:14:24
September 15 2011 00:13 GMT
#2171
On September 15 2011 09:10 Toadvine wrote:
This is why I can't take this matchup seriously.


Why? Because taeja went the perfect counter to what Squirtle was doing? Throw in 2 colossus and that engagement would have looked so differently. Taeja had no vikings and no way to re-max as quickly as Squirtle. Sorry that maxing out does not equal win.

This just makes me think of all the QQ from Zergs when they were maxing out on roach/ling against terran and failing.
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
September 15 2011 00:13 GMT
#2172
Ghosts are so powerful. I get the sense that they will get nerfed eventually. Or feedback will get an increase in range so that it's equal with Snipe/EMP.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 00:17:10
September 15 2011 00:16 GMT
#2173
On September 15 2011 09:13 cablesc wrote:
Ghosts are so powerful. I get the sense that they will get nerfed eventually. Or feedback will get an increase in range so that it's equal with Snipe/EMP.

That would cause so many issues with the ZvP match-up, esp. if the NP nerf goes through. HTs already own infestors pretty hard.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 15 2011 00:17 GMT
#2174
On September 15 2011 09:13 cablesc wrote:
Ghosts are so powerful. I get the sense that they will get nerfed eventually. Or feedback will get an increase in range so that it's equal with Snipe/EMP.

I think they just need to tone down the area of effect a little.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
September 15 2011 00:17 GMT
#2175
I think you have to put the HTs in a warp prism nowadays. In the mid to late game, T has enough scans and ghosts to get off good shots.
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
September 15 2011 00:18 GMT
#2176
On September 15 2011 09:16 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 09:13 cablesc wrote:
Ghosts are so powerful. I get the sense that they will get nerfed eventually. Or feedback will get an increase in range so that it's equal with Snipe/EMP.

That would cause so many issues with the ZvP match-up, esp. if the NP nerf goes through. HTs already own infestors pretty hard.


How about reducing range of Snipe/EMP then? I'm sure Zergs would also be happy with that.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 15 2011 00:18 GMT
#2177
I'd quite like to see some toss trying to get big Zealot flanks going if they are sticking Zealot/Archon that late in the game (with only a handful of clumped up HT's ><). With an obs or two to try keep good map awareness it should be plausible to slide a group of zealots out and have them push in from another angle?

Personally I'm a big fan of that kind of Toss play, but with a faster transition back into Colossus. I much prefer it to Colossus into HT at least.
SaikOuLighT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada742 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 00:19:47
September 15 2011 00:19 GMT
#2178
BbongBbong forgot his pool... O_O

Or maybe he's ultra metagaming taeja
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
September 15 2011 00:23 GMT
#2179
Who ever is casting this is awesome. Keep up the good work!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 15 2011 00:25 GMT
#2180
On September 15 2011 09:18 Asha` wrote:
I'd quite like to see some toss trying to get big Zealot flanks going if they are sticking Zealot/Archon that late in the game (with only a handful of clumped up HT's ><). With an obs or two to try keep good map awareness it should be plausible to slide a group of zealots out and have them push in from another angle?

Personally I'm a big fan of that kind of Toss play, but with a faster transition back into Colossus. I much prefer it to Colossus into HT at least.

I like it better too, what I prefer is when the P doesn't research storm and invest the money into colossi, while using the templars for feedbacking the medivacs first priority, and ghosts second. Way harder to micro a ghost-templar battle when you have colossi pewpewing at your ghosts.
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