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On May 19 2011 22:40 julianto wrote:
The tension created by the Nestea vs SC game was many times greater than this game. There's nothing really special about this one. Comments about this game could be applied to several other pro games.
Not when it's an ace match with a guy going 5-0 in it and the other being mma(took down 2 ace's prior). And honestly, mma played much better than sc, so on a technical level this was superior. nestea vs sc was such a nail biter because it was close to the very last second, which isn't commonly seen.
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Man I really don't understand what was so great about the nestea vs fou game. I mean I suppose the last few moments were pretty tense but it was just tank marine vs muta ling baneling, and pretty boring I thought.
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On May 19 2011 22:42 Olinim wrote:
Man I really don't understand what was so great about the nestea vs fou game. I mean I suppose the last few moments were pretty tense but it was just tank marine vs muta ling baneling, and pretty boring I thought.
Yeah, it was only the last little bit that was intense. I guess a lot was riding on the line(30k for 2nd place at least, ace match).
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On May 19 2011 22:41 Djagulingu wrote:
Reasons why MvP Team lost GSTL finals:
1- viOlet
2- ???
Yeah, Violet was a really sour note in the whole series. Pretty much the only bad game. As a Code S player, with the map choice, and after seeing Keen just get totally sniped, he should have been way better than he showed.
If Violet wins that, then MVP is in great position to win with GuineaPig/DRG.
You also can't discount how lucky Slayers got with Pig rolling Zerg. Ganzi's best match-up by far was TvZ, and if anything else got rolled, he might have gotten taken out. Slayers is truly a magical team.
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this was such a sick series!!!! MMA is a beast!
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Just got back from the studio...there was a pretty awesome atmosphere there tonight. I don't know how Gom always manages to get such epic GSTL finals, but tonight was no exception.
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Did you guys notice that MMA sort of had a moment with Ryung during the celebrations. Does anyone have a jpg of that fist bump?
From what I understand there is a friendly rivalry between the two.
I dunno if I'm reading too much into this. But as the two are arguably the best terrans on slayers, that moment seemed to me one of mutual respect and recognition, more so on the part of Ryung naturally.
Also, is it just me or did Alicia not seem all that pleased with the MVP title being awarded to MMA the second time?..lol
I love imagining all these narratives for these players.
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On May 19 2011 22:45 FuRong wrote:
Just got back from the studio...there was a pretty awesome atmosphere there tonight. I don't know how Gom always manages to get such epic GSTL finals, but tonight was no exception.
lucky you! an unforgettable experience
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On May 19 2011 22:36 dakalro wrote:
Wish people would stop asking why these players aren't in Code A/S. It's different skills for any of the tournaments. To get into Code A you need to be above average versus everything and have a good day. Playing Code A/S needs preparation and research, a very important skill. GSTL is all about sniping and not very hard on nerves so players play a bit more relaxed and do weird new stuff with a lot more courage - not like there's a lot on the line, GSTL is more for fun.
That's why GSTL will always be more entertaining than GSL, GSL will always look more mechanical, pre-planned, it is a lot about how you prepare pre-game and a bad decision there can destroy your entire match (Nestea v Inca, I doubt Inca is really that bad overall, he just got unlucky with pre game preparation, so did MMA vs Huk).
MMA and DRG will get there, eventually, but they do apparently need more training/preparation.
It is 4-4 in the finals of the GSTL. One win would get you 5mil KRW more than the other team. All the hopes of your team rests on you. On one side you have a zerg who's 5-0 in the GSTL (4-0 vs your race). And on the other you have a Terran who was last season's MVP, has the best record in GSTL, and always comes through for his team.
How do you not feel nervous if your both of those players? Yes the GSTL is a lot more fun for the players, but when it comes down to that sort of situation, it's pretty much like a finals of an individual competition... pretty much like how it was last season with MMA vs MVP.
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On May 19 2011 22:05 Highways wrote:
That was:
Flash 2.0 vs Jaedong 2.0
If Jaedong had a 70 supply lead over Flash, the game wouldn't last more than 5 minutes more
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I felt so bad when MMA lost his up/down matches. The guy is so damn good, definitely one of the top 3 terrans in the world along with Bomber and MVP
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that was a great game... but i don't think it was the best game ever o_o
anyway congrats to SlayerS!!! GSTL is the most entertaining tourney by far !
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On May 19 2011 22:12 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 22:08 sagdashin wrote:
Thorzain vs fruitdealer (TSL3)
Nestea vs Sc (GSL)
and
MMA vs DRG (GSTL)
Best TvZ's to date in sc2! Thorzain FD does not belong in the discussion. I think FD TOP may qualify though.
Baneling bombs+ Ultra drops and Mass Ultras vs Mass Thors xD FD FTW!!!
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On May 19 2011 22:52 SkimGuy wrote:If Jaedong had a 70 supply lead over Flash, the game wouldn't last more than 5 minutes more
isnt mma called "the son of boxer"? xD i do not think we should spoil him too much with all this nicknames, or he wont get code S ever <.<
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On May 19 2011 22:48 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 22:36 dakalro wrote:
Wish people would stop asking why these players aren't in Code A/S. It's different skills for any of the tournaments. To get into Code A you need to be above average versus everything and have a good day. Playing Code A/S needs preparation and research, a very important skill. GSTL is all about sniping and not very hard on nerves so players play a bit more relaxed and do weird new stuff with a lot more courage - not like there's a lot on the line, GSTL is more for fun.
That's why GSTL will always be more entertaining than GSL, GSL will always look more mechanical, pre-planned, it is a lot about how you prepare pre-game and a bad decision there can destroy your entire match (Nestea v Inca, I doubt Inca is really that bad overall, he just got unlucky with pre game preparation, so did MMA vs Huk).
MMA and DRG will get there, eventually, but they do apparently need more training/preparation. It is 4-4 in the finals of the GSTL. One win would get you 5mil KRW more than the other team. All the hopes of your team rests on you. On one side you have a zerg who's 5-0 in the GSTL (4-0 vs your race). And on the other you have a Terran who was last season's MVP, has the best record in GSTL, and always comes through for his team. How do you not feel nervous if your both of those players? Yes the GSTL is a lot more fun for the players, but when it comes down to that sort of situation, it's pretty much like a finals of an individual competition... pretty much like how it was last season with MMA vs MVP.
Exactly, couldn't have say it better than this. This is why the game is >Nestea vs SC
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On May 19 2011 18:08 last light wrote:
DRG fighting
hoping to see an epic game 9 between him and MMA
Got your wish!
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Poor DRG.... should have owned MMA
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that was definitely one of the most epic games ever... hell, at one point MMA had lings at his natural, no tanks and no marines.... and the 2 snipes by FroZen were crucial as well
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anyway now we know that DRG is much better than Nestea yeah!!
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On May 19 2011 22:48 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 22:36 dakalro wrote:
Wish people would stop asking why these players aren't in Code A/S. It's different skills for any of the tournaments. To get into Code A you need to be above average versus everything and have a good day. Playing Code A/S needs preparation and research, a very important skill. GSTL is all about sniping and not very hard on nerves so players play a bit more relaxed and do weird new stuff with a lot more courage - not like there's a lot on the line, GSTL is more for fun.
That's why GSTL will always be more entertaining than GSL, GSL will always look more mechanical, pre-planned, it is a lot about how you prepare pre-game and a bad decision there can destroy your entire match (Nestea v Inca, I doubt Inca is really that bad overall, he just got unlucky with pre game preparation, so did MMA vs Huk).
MMA and DRG will get there, eventually, but they do apparently need more training/preparation. It is 4-4 in the finals of the GSTL. One win would get you 5mil KRW more than the other team. All the hopes of your team rests on you. On one side you have a zerg who's 5-0 in the GSTL (4-0 vs your race). And on the other you have a Terran who was last season's MVP, has the best record in GSTL, and always comes through for his team. How do you not feel nervous if your both of those players? Yes the GSTL is a lot more fun for the players, but when it comes down to that sort of situation, it's pretty much like a finals of an individual competition... pretty much like how it was last season with MMA vs MVP.
Not exactly, is it? It's a "for fun" tournament and the prizes show it. The most pressure is probably on the coach for choosing right map/player. This makes it closer to friendlies in soccer where you get to see some awesome personal plays; I assume it's because you can/afford to use higher risk/reward scenarios plus the chance of one of your builds being perfectly countered is lower. And the lack of preparation time also makes it a bit volatile compared to what seems like precision calculated GSL games. GSTL is all for a great show, GSL is for the money/reputation. Another example would be like the all star games in NBA.
Yes, there's emotion but I never felt like they had anything to lose if they did lose or the same powerful preference for one player or another to win.
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