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Suohhen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
December 10 2011 09:59 GMT
#7481
On December 10 2011 18:48 Enearde wrote:
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On December 10 2011 18:45 Suohhen wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:42 Enearde wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:38 Suohhen wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:33 mrtomjones wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:05 Suohhen wrote:
On December 10 2011 17:52 FakeDeath wrote:
forGG vs Nestea now on forgg stream incase anyone want to see it just started.=D


So much cheese, unfortunately for Fin he didn't know when to pull back those thors and his SCVs were off hugging drones when Nestea rolled through the thors with reinforcements. The best part is I can see Nestea's face in my mind as all this is going on.

uh oh.. forgg losing a game? unpossible


I was happy to see him lose, the hype surrounding him is deafening. Of course everyone should expect Nestea to win but honestly i don't believe that's the case. People are too obsessed with the moment and give no respect to past achievements of these players.


Wow, i agree 200%

So, did something happend in WCG today? (sc2 related)


It was just a ladder game being streamed on Fin's stream, nothing related to this tournament as neither player is in the tournament, but someone mentioned that the game was on his stream and I checked it out.


Yeah i know that, i was just asking for update since i can't understand where the games are streamed and all :'(


The games were played earlier between 11am and 7pm KST, The only games left are going to be streamed tomorrow and they are the finals between MVP and Xigua, and the third place match between Titan and Kas. The stream schedule has been really poorly advertised and really the only hope is to have all 3 streams up and keep checking them but the adds are overlays so they lag the crap out of my computer and have to be muted individually which is a huge pain in the ass. Since there are only 2 Bo3s tomorrow I would guess that they are going to be steamed and they will cast all the games but at this point who knows. You can look at the schedule that is on the 1st post of this thread under the spoiler under "Broadcast schedule" and hope that they keep to that, however certain games have been off schedule.
Tycho
Profile Joined April 2003
Netherlands351 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 10:01:13
December 10 2011 10:00 GMT
#7482
So are the games over for today or can I just not find the stream?
edit: read post above while posting n/m
Just enjoy!
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9031 Posts
December 10 2011 10:01 GMT
#7483
A bo3 for 15,000$. WCG needs to learn to adapt.
Suohhen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
December 10 2011 10:02 GMT
#7484
On December 10 2011 19:00 Tycho wrote:
So are the games over for today or can I just not find the stream?
edit: read post above while posting n/m


SC2 yes, there is a LoL semi final on the 2nd stream right now, but you can see the entire schedule on the 1st post in this thread under the spoiler under Broadcast Schedule.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
December 10 2011 10:04 GMT
#7485
On December 10 2011 18:54 Poopi wrote:
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On December 10 2011 18:49 [17]Purple wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:46 Poopi wrote:
Wow MKP losing to Kas? I guess his TvT has become really really bad like he said in interview. Anyways he has time to recover for GSL.
Not surprised about SuperNova losing to Titan, the state of TvP is that bad unfortunately


I would really just say that Korean Terrans aren't that well practiced and prepared against Protoss opponents.


Lol the same excuse again? Or the one :"Gatored suddenly became a PvT god despite his 50%record"
Why are every korean terran complaining about the difficulty of the matchup if they don't practice it?
And yeah HuK lost, and what?

Code A TvP: 22-14
Supernova himself took out 2 Protoss. Maybe Titan is just really good?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12905 Posts
December 10 2011 10:04 GMT
#7486
On December 10 2011 18:57 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:46 Poopi wrote:
Wow MKP losing to Kas? I guess his TvT has become really really bad like he said in interview. Anyways he has time to recover for GSL.
Not surprised about SuperNova losing to Titan, the state of TvP is that bad unfortunately


When was the last time MarineKing had really strong TvT though? When he was swept 4-0 by Mvp in the GSL finals all those months ago, Mvp was probably the only better tvt player than MKP at the time, but he seemed to deteriorate rather quickly after that.


He never had really strong TvT imo, when he beat Jinro and NaDa 4-1 and 3-0 it was more him being far far better than any terran except Mvp, and him and Mvp "defining" the terran metagame. But he had decent TvT recently, beating Happy, BoxeR, Bomber, etc...
Kas is very good so it's less an upset than TiTaN beating Supernova, but it's still sad. MKP should start practicing more TvT in custom instead of raping every opponent under the 15mn mark on ladder T_T
WriterMaru
Strawburry17
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia130 Posts
December 10 2011 10:05 GMT
#7487
On December 10 2011 16:07 Itsmedudeman wrote:
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On December 10 2011 16:06 bittman wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:05 Noktix wrote:
MVP is so fucking consistent. Every tourney he enters he absolutely destroys.....such a monster.


And honestly, thats why he's the best player in the world. Even when he loses I'll keep saying that until I see someone half as consistent.

MVP only got 4th in GSL and MLG from the open bracket. Guess he's slumping.

He's also capable of switching his style to what fits. He uses drops a LOT more TvZ now.



MVP got 3rd place in GSL Nov. while mma got knocked out in 8's

Even though MVP won MLG Anaheim, MLG's weird point ranking system put him in the open braket in the providence
(he is the 1-rank open braket player)

Though he played so many games from open braket, MVP scored 26-5 record for MLG Providence and got 4th place,
ahead of top seeded players like MMA/Idra/MC/Bomber/Huk, while the top seeded player, MMA scored 1-4 and knocked out of the tournament showing disappointing perfomance as 9th place.

MVP is the most consistent and solid player I think.
Overall the best SC2 player in the world in 2011 deserving the nick name of "Bonjwa of SC2"
(Almost every Korean commnity sites agree to call him as a Bonjwa of the wings of liberty)
LG-IMSeed, the Upcoming Protoss Executor.
Suohhen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
December 10 2011 10:08 GMT
#7488
On December 10 2011 19:01 Garnet wrote:
A bo3 for 15,000$. WCG needs to learn to adapt.


Yeah that is a huge discrepancy for such a small prize pool, and even more sad knowing how much these players have to spend to be in this tournament. And this was a change they made at the last moment, many of the qualifiers were wiped out because the players couldn't afford to go. The only reason Idra and Huk went is because EG has enough money to send them and they were already in Korea. For a tournament that purports to be the eSports Olympics it is unacceptable for them to run an event like this.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12905 Posts
December 10 2011 10:08 GMT
#7489
On December 10 2011 19:04 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:54 Poopi wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:49 [17]Purple wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:46 Poopi wrote:
Wow MKP losing to Kas? I guess his TvT has become really really bad like he said in interview. Anyways he has time to recover for GSL.
Not surprised about SuperNova losing to Titan, the state of TvP is that bad unfortunately


I would really just say that Korean Terrans aren't that well practiced and prepared against Protoss opponents.


Lol the same excuse again? Or the one :"Gatored suddenly became a PvT god despite his 50%record"
Why are every korean terran complaining about the difficulty of the matchup if they don't practice it?
And yeah HuK lost, and what?

Code A TvP: 22-14
Supernova himself took out 2 Protoss. Maybe Titan is just really good?

Titan is good yes, but he is better than a top 8 korean terran? ...
And about the code A TvP, there were only Creator, Huk, HerO and Sage as strong protoss. Sage was against fOrGG who probably will be the first royal road, no upset, Creator was against Clide but he is young, no upset. Only upset is HerO losing to asd, who is the best FXO terran if I recall correctly.
WriterMaru
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 10:13:39
December 10 2011 10:12 GMT
#7490
Fuck yes MVP. Just be mindful of baneling/roach busts and the title is yours!

edit: Oh and Bo3 for the grand final is shameful. What the fuck are you thinking WCG?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 10:18 GMT
#7491
On December 10 2011 19:08 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 19:04 Maenander wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:54 Poopi wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:49 [17]Purple wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:46 Poopi wrote:
Wow MKP losing to Kas? I guess his TvT has become really really bad like he said in interview. Anyways he has time to recover for GSL.
Not surprised about SuperNova losing to Titan, the state of TvP is that bad unfortunately


I would really just say that Korean Terrans aren't that well practiced and prepared against Protoss opponents.


Lol the same excuse again? Or the one :"Gatored suddenly became a PvT god despite his 50%record"
Why are every korean terran complaining about the difficulty of the matchup if they don't practice it?
And yeah HuK lost, and what?

Code A TvP: 22-14
Supernova himself took out 2 Protoss. Maybe Titan is just really good?

Titan is good yes, but he is better than a top 8 korean terran? ...
And about the code A TvP, there were only Creator, Huk, HerO and Sage as strong protoss. Sage was against fOrGG who probably will be the first royal road, no upset, Creator was against Clide but he is young, no upset. Only upset is HerO losing to asd, who is the best FXO terran if I recall correctly.

Supernova played bad those games and had some weird builds that made him fall very far behind. All titan did really was turtle and just kill him.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
December 10 2011 10:20 GMT
#7492
On December 10 2011 19:08 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 19:04 Maenander wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:54 Poopi wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:49 [17]Purple wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:46 Poopi wrote:
Wow MKP losing to Kas? I guess his TvT has become really really bad like he said in interview. Anyways he has time to recover for GSL.
Not surprised about SuperNova losing to Titan, the state of TvP is that bad unfortunately


I would really just say that Korean Terrans aren't that well practiced and prepared against Protoss opponents.


Lol the same excuse again? Or the one :"Gatored suddenly became a PvT god despite his 50%record"
Why are every korean terran complaining about the difficulty of the matchup if they don't practice it?
And yeah HuK lost, and what?

Code A TvP: 22-14
Supernova himself took out 2 Protoss. Maybe Titan is just really good?

Titan is good yes, but he is better than a top 8 korean terran? ...
And about the code A TvP, there were only Creator, Huk, HerO and Sage as strong protoss. Sage was against fOrGG who probably will be the first royal road, no upset, Creator was against Clide but he is young, no upset. Only upset is HerO losing to asd, who is the best FXO terran if I recall correctly.

Titan is good, yes. I have never seen a protoss on the european ladder have a win rate of 75.75% after 500 games, and PvT is his best match-up.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
December 10 2011 10:25 GMT
#7493
On December 10 2011 19:05 Strawburry17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:07 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:06 bittman wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:05 Noktix wrote:
MVP is so fucking consistent. Every tourney he enters he absolutely destroys.....such a monster.


And honestly, thats why he's the best player in the world. Even when he loses I'll keep saying that until I see someone half as consistent.

MVP only got 4th in GSL and MLG from the open bracket. Guess he's slumping.

He's also capable of switching his style to what fits. He uses drops a LOT more TvZ now.



MVP got 3rd place in GSL Nov. while mma got knocked out in 8's

Even though MVP won MLG Anaheim, MLG's weird point ranking system put him in the open braket in the providence
(he is the 1-rank open braket player)

Though he played so many games from open braket, MVP scored 26-5 record for MLG Providence and got 4th place,
ahead of top seeded players like MMA/Idra/MC/Bomber/Huk, while the top seeded player, MMA scored 1-4 and knocked out of the tournament showing disappointing perfomance as 9th place.

MVP is the most consistent and solid player I think.
Overall the best SC2 player in the world in 2011 deserving the nick name of "Bonjwa of SC2"
(Almost every Korean commnity sites agree to call him as a Bonjwa of the wings of liberty)


He's also the only SC2 player to have ever held the #1 spot on TLPD ELO for both foreigner and Korean lists, and he's done it multiple times.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
December 10 2011 10:28 GMT
#7494
On December 10 2011 19:25 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 19:05 Strawburry17 wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:07 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:06 bittman wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:05 Noktix wrote:
MVP is so fucking consistent. Every tourney he enters he absolutely destroys.....such a monster.


And honestly, thats why he's the best player in the world. Even when he loses I'll keep saying that until I see someone half as consistent.

MVP only got 4th in GSL and MLG from the open bracket. Guess he's slumping.

He's also capable of switching his style to what fits. He uses drops a LOT more TvZ now.



MVP got 3rd place in GSL Nov. while mma got knocked out in 8's

Even though MVP won MLG Anaheim, MLG's weird point ranking system put him in the open braket in the providence
(he is the 1-rank open braket player)

Though he played so many games from open braket, MVP scored 26-5 record for MLG Providence and got 4th place,
ahead of top seeded players like MMA/Idra/MC/Bomber/Huk, while the top seeded player, MMA scored 1-4 and knocked out of the tournament showing disappointing perfomance as 9th place.

MVP is the most consistent and solid player I think.
Overall the best SC2 player in the world in 2011 deserving the nick name of "Bonjwa of SC2"
(Almost every Korean commnity sites agree to call him as a Bonjwa of the wings of liberty)


He's also the only SC2 player to have ever held the #1 spot on TLPD ELO for both foreigner and Korean lists, and he's done it multiple times.

Plus he holds the record for highest ELO peaks in both international & korean TLPDs. It's pretty amazing given how he didn't participate in many foreign events until recently.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Suohhen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
December 10 2011 10:30 GMT
#7495
On December 10 2011 19:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 19:08 Poopi wrote:
On December 10 2011 19:04 Maenander wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:54 Poopi wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:49 [17]Purple wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:46 Poopi wrote:
Wow MKP losing to Kas? I guess his TvT has become really really bad like he said in interview. Anyways he has time to recover for GSL.
Not surprised about SuperNova losing to Titan, the state of TvP is that bad unfortunately


I would really just say that Korean Terrans aren't that well practiced and prepared against Protoss opponents.


Lol the same excuse again? Or the one :"Gatored suddenly became a PvT god despite his 50%record"
Why are every korean terran complaining about the difficulty of the matchup if they don't practice it?
And yeah HuK lost, and what?

Code A TvP: 22-14
Supernova himself took out 2 Protoss. Maybe Titan is just really good?

Titan is good yes, but he is better than a top 8 korean terran? ...
And about the code A TvP, there were only Creator, Huk, HerO and Sage as strong protoss. Sage was against fOrGG who probably will be the first royal road, no upset, Creator was against Clide but he is young, no upset. Only upset is HerO losing to asd, who is the best FXO terran if I recall correctly.

Supernova played bad those games and had some weird builds that made him fall very far behind. All titan did really was turtle and just kill him.


So typical of Eastern Europeans to play defensively, it is kind of funny when that style matches up with the hyper aggression of those used to playing on the Korean ladders. But honestly this is what worries me the most about the what might happen if Blizzard tries to weaken rushes is that they will do it by buffing static defense and have us enduring hour long games. Maybe they need to completely rethink the terran tech tree so that you don't have to worry about cloak banshies, or hellions, or reapers, or mauraders, or siege tank all ins all being able to be thrown at you within the time frame that the normal terran expands to their natural behind a depot wall at the top of their ramp.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 10 2011 10:31 GMT
#7496
Who is (Z)IG.XiGua? That's a question on everyone's mind who been watching the WCG Grand Finals 2011. I tracked down an old interview (dated June 15th) by Chinese site Tatazu.com to give us some answers about this new star.

Another interview of XiGua by Fnatics is also available.




Source: Tatazu.com | 2011-6-10 | Editor: elvin

NESL: Very excited to have a chance to interview XiGua. Please introduce yourself:
CCM.XiGua: Hello everybody! I am XiGua.
[T/N: XiGua has since transferred to team (Wiki)Invictus Gaming]

NESL: After winning WGT, we haven't saw you playing for a while. Are you in competitive shape?
XiGua: I had a little family matter after WGT, so I took a little break. I have had trouble with ZvZ recently, often knocked out due to it, so I have been strengthening myself at that particular matchup.
[T/N: WGT was an 8-man invite tournament with a prizepool of ¥35000 ($5,500 appx). The tournament ran between January 4-6 in ZhongGuanCun e-Plaza, Beijing.]

[image loading]

NESL: Many changes happened since the beginning of this year for the Chinese scene - the official Chinese version was finally released, Nv's SC2 team was purchased by CCM, G-League, WCG & NESL are all upcoming. As a player, how has the development and growth of the Chinese scene affected you? What do we still need to improve upon?
XiGua: StarCraft 2 is still in a growing stage, so it may not have reached the level of WarCraft 3 yet. However, I believe that as more players pick up the game and other Pros transition to this game, StarCraft 2 will become a fan favorite.

The focus needs to be atmosphere. A great game, without a matching atmosphere, will never become big enough.

NESL: Are you making preparations for the WCG Chengdu qualifer? What's your goal for this WCG?
XiGua: Of course #1. As a professional player, there're no other objective. This is what I believe in.

NESL: WCG has always been the tournament that matters the most and the focus of Chinese fans, yet we have not have any success in BW for some time. Do you think we can change that in StarCraft 2? Can you find success for China at WCG?
XiGua: At the current stage, I don't think the Koreans dominate the world stage as they had in BW. Skill-wise, many Chinese players can match the Code-S level. Players such as xiaOt, lovett, and Sed can at least make Top-3.

NESL: After you defeated xiaOt at WGT, many fans considered you China's top Zerg, comparing you to (Z)NesTea. Your thoughts?
XiGua: NesTea is my favorite player. He has solid mechanics and understands strategy. He able to win championships despite the current patch is not luck or coincidence.

Maybe I can be compared to other Zerg players, but I am nothing compared to NesTea.

NESL: Let's talk balance.
XiGua: Terrans are very strong and not map-dependent at all. In any situation, Terran can make a equal trade, especially considering how strong Marines are.

Protoss are balanced, depending on the player. Sentry is useful, but only if you know how to use it properly. A Protoss player is only as strong as his sentry usage, at least against Zergs, and can become quite imba.

Zergs are a little on the weaker side, because there're very little room for error. Any minor mistake can ruin the advantage you build throughout the game. Also, the 2-Barrack rush was simply too powerful a while back.

[image loading]

NESL: In this NESL, you'll be participating in the full gauntlet: the team league, star league, race war, and individual league. Let's take a look at the team league first, CCM is playing Legacy, with winner playing whoever wins WE vs TyLoo. With the league using WC3L format, how competitive do you think CCM are?
XiGua: I like this setup. Not only is the format exciting to watch, it also let everyone experience the team spirit. I feel good about it.

NESL: You are entering the Race War as a Zerg. In the Chinese scene, the Protoss clearly have an advantage over Terrans and Zergs. How do you feel about this one?
XiGua: In the Chinese server, more players play Protoss the most, so it's expected for them to play better than the other two. I don't feel I am disadvantaged against Protoss or Terran. Zerg in my eye is undefeatable.

NESL: In the Individual League, you're seeded along with Sen, F91 and other into the ro-16.
XiGua: More qualifier spots means more chances. It's fairer and I think everyone like that.
[T/N: The invited players are (Z)Sen、(Z)F91、(Z)XiGua、(P)xiaOt、(T)Loner、LoveCD、(T)Lengmo、(T)WP,inFi]

NESL: Who are the top-5 players of each race in the world?
XiGua:
  • Terran: (T)sC, (T)MVP, (T)MMA, (T)NaDa, (T)BoxeR
  • Protoss: (P)MC, xiOt, (P)LoveTT, (P)HuK
    [T/N: (Z)XiGua did not list a fifth]
  • Zerg: (Z)NesTea, (Z)July, (Z)LosirA, (Z)XiGua, (Z)IdrA


NESL: Information of HOTS has been recently released, have you been following it closely?
XiGua: I saw some of the new information. Looks like Zerg will get a buff in this expansion. I think the return of the Lurker would make the game more interesting and will be more balanced than the current game.

NESL: What map do you hate? What map do you love?
XiGua: I enjoy Xel'naga Cavern, Tal'Darim Altar, Steppes of War but hate The Shattered Temple and Metalopolis. Close spawn is instant GG in those maps.

NESL: Do you play to compete in GSL and other international competition?
XiGua: This team is still developing, but that's certainly possible.

NESL: A Zerg strategy question: Zerg can often get out-microed by Terran and Protoss, how do you overcome that deficiency?
XiGua: Zerg relies on multiple fronts. Only by proper formation, through flanking and manuvuering, can one compensate in battle. Use Mutalisks to contain the enemy forces to buy time.

NESL: For the regular Zerg players, what should they concentrate on improving?
XiGua: If you want to get better with Zerg, train your fundamentals and judgement. You'll need to practice often to perfect the craft. Every extra Drone you squeeze out, you become a little stronger.

NESL: Two-base Mutalisk [T/N: unsure] are often pressured by two-base Terrans, do you plan to use a 1-base infestor or other novel strategies?
XiGua: I prefer a passive-economic style currently, maybe in the future.

NESL: Thank you for spending time with NESL, any message for the fans?
XiGua: Thank you for supporting StarCraft 2 everyone and creating better atmosphere around the game. I hope everyone continue to support me, and I'll do my best to bring better results in return.

Thank God and gunrun.
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
December 10 2011 10:33 GMT
#7497
come on ...
what is a wcg without JOHNRAMBO ???
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
December 10 2011 10:33 GMT
#7498
When is the final?
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
December 10 2011 10:34 GMT
#7499
Wow, nice results.

Does anyone know if there will be a replay pack released? I haven't been interested in so many games for quite some time ^^
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
December 10 2011 10:36 GMT
#7500
On December 10 2011 19:28 Telcontar wrote:
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On December 10 2011 19:25 Qaatar wrote:
On December 10 2011 19:05 Strawburry17 wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:07 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:06 bittman wrote:
On December 10 2011 16:05 Noktix wrote:
MVP is so fucking consistent. Every tourney he enters he absolutely destroys.....such a monster.


And honestly, thats why he's the best player in the world. Even when he loses I'll keep saying that until I see someone half as consistent.

MVP only got 4th in GSL and MLG from the open bracket. Guess he's slumping.

He's also capable of switching his style to what fits. He uses drops a LOT more TvZ now.



MVP got 3rd place in GSL Nov. while mma got knocked out in 8's

Even though MVP won MLG Anaheim, MLG's weird point ranking system put him in the open braket in the providence
(he is the 1-rank open braket player)

Though he played so many games from open braket, MVP scored 26-5 record for MLG Providence and got 4th place,
ahead of top seeded players like MMA/Idra/MC/Bomber/Huk, while the top seeded player, MMA scored 1-4 and knocked out of the tournament showing disappointing perfomance as 9th place.

MVP is the most consistent and solid player I think.
Overall the best SC2 player in the world in 2011 deserving the nick name of "Bonjwa of SC2"
(Almost every Korean commnity sites agree to call him as a Bonjwa of the wings of liberty)


He's also the only SC2 player to have ever held the #1 spot on TLPD ELO for both foreigner and Korean lists, and he's done it multiple times.

Plus he holds the record for highest ELO peaks in both international & korean TLPDs. It's pretty amazing given how he didn't participate in many foreign events until recently.


Ooh, nice catch. Damn, that's sick. -_-
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