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Suohhen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
December 10 2011 09:08 GMT
#7441
On December 10 2011 17:57 Lavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 17:52 Suohhen wrote:
On December 10 2011 17:48 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
Lol and on the topic of 1-1-1's, just saw ForGG rape a Protoss with one on metalopolis. Looks like not all Protosses can stop it still on smaller maps like Metalopolis.


The problem is it's hard to scout many of the early pressures Terran can do because they always wall in. Maybe the ability to warp in cannons in HoTS will calm down rushes, but there are so many changes who knows what the meta game will look like in that expansion.


They need to buff static defense which would kill off the majority of timing , cheeses, and all ins
then they can finally work on balancing the standard terran vs toss game

so far they have been balancing with 1-1-1 in mind.. keep in mind part of the reason of the terran bubble in codeS is that for 2 seasons straight many lower end terrans abused the hell out of 1-1-1 in the up and downs to any toss player. Which brought about buffs / nerfs.... really dumb way to balance since it messes up the standard game and obviously people don't want to, see 1-1-1 and other gimmicky stuff anymore.

tl;dr by balancing around 111 they nerfed terran standard game (which was arguably toss favored anyways)... thereby making terran even MORE likely to embrace 1-1-1 and other abusive strats in order to secure wins...


I think they are afraid of the 60 minute turtle terran games typical of eastern European terrans such as Happy. I hope they can buff static defense for the other races without ending up with a bunch of turtles, but I would like to see them try.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
December 10 2011 09:10 GMT
#7442
Did MVP and Kas finish their series? If so, what was the result?
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 10 2011 09:10 GMT
#7443
On December 10 2011 18:05 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Huge upsets by Kas and Titan O_O. Shame I missed those matches .


I woulnt say huge upset by Kas. Kas is a beast I allways knew he was very good he just had problems with his nerves. However that Titan did so well is a huge suprice
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
December 10 2011 09:10 GMT
#7444
On December 10 2011 17:46 Mobius_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 17:41 Suohhen wrote:
On December 10 2011 17:38 ryland05 wrote:
I missed what happened today, I can't seem to find results.


WCG 2011 SC2 Main Tournament

But honestly you should be able to find anything you need to know about SC on Liquipedia yourself so work on that.


I wonder how many times that link has been posted in this thread, even though IT'S RIGHT ON THE FRONT PAGE.

It should really be bolded and in size 50 or something.

Maybe if people would update liquipedia with results when they happened instead of leaving MVP vs Kas at 1-0...
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
December 10 2011 09:12 GMT
#7445
On December 10 2011 18:10 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:05 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Huge upsets by Kas and Titan O_O. Shame I missed those matches .


I woulnt say huge upset by Kas. Kas is a beast I allways knew he was very good he just had problems with his nerves. However that Titan did so well is a huge suprice


If you follow the EU scene it isn't, the guy is ripping everyone apart on the EU ladders.
sickle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand656 Posts
December 10 2011 09:13 GMT
#7446
On December 10 2011 18:06 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:04 unknown.sam wrote:
can anyone explain what it means when MVP's mouth is open?


It means that the game is over and MVP's opponent is dead.


I lol'd irl.

I think that MVP will win the finals. Not to count Xigua out, he still has a chance, and then again, an upset can always happen
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
December 10 2011 09:14 GMT
#7447
On December 10 2011 18:04 unknown.sam wrote:
can anyone explain what it means when MVP's mouth is open?


It means he's in bossmode!
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
December 10 2011 09:15 GMT
#7448
On December 10 2011 18:12 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:10 HappyChris wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:05 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Huge upsets by Kas and Titan O_O. Shame I missed those matches .


I woulnt say huge upset by Kas. Kas is a beast I allways knew he was very good he just had problems with his nerves. However that Titan did so well is a huge suprice


If you follow the EU scene it isn't, the guy is ripping everyone apart on the EU ladders.


Not to mention that Supernova, like almost every Korean Terran except Jjakji and maybe fOrGG, has a weak TvP.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 10 2011 09:15 GMT
#7449
On December 10 2011 18:12 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:10 HappyChris wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:05 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Huge upsets by Kas and Titan O_O. Shame I missed those matches .


I woulnt say huge upset by Kas. Kas is a beast I allways knew he was very good he just had problems with his nerves. However that Titan did so well is a huge suprice


If you follow the EU scene it isn't, the guy is ripping everyone apart on the EU ladders.


I know about Titan I been watching him now and again for a while. I knew he was very good in PvP and PvT but I didnt expect him todo these result at all
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 09:18:32
December 10 2011 09:17 GMT
#7450
On December 10 2011 18:12 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:10 HappyChris wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:05 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Huge upsets by Kas and Titan O_O. Shame I missed those matches .


I woulnt say huge upset by Kas. Kas is a beast I allways knew he was very good he just had problems with his nerves. However that Titan did so well is a huge suprice


If you follow the EU scene it isn't, the guy is ripping everyone apart on the EU ladders.

Kas is the successor to WhiteRa in the Ukrainian Trio, for when PapaRa retires
As for Titan, doing well on the ladder is one thing. Doing well in tournaments is another, and this is the very first time I've seen him do well in tournaments.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 09:22:15
December 10 2011 09:19 GMT
#7451
Well russians have been saying that Titan is a complete boss so I'm not SUPER surprised by those results.

But what the hell are they not streaming MVP vs Kas? T_T
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
December 10 2011 09:20 GMT
#7452
On December 10 2011 18:17 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:12 MrMercuG wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:10 HappyChris wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:05 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Huge upsets by Kas and Titan O_O. Shame I missed those matches .


I woulnt say huge upset by Kas. Kas is a beast I allways knew he was very good he just had problems with his nerves. However that Titan did so well is a huge suprice


If you follow the EU scene it isn't, the guy is ripping everyone apart on the EU ladders.

Kas is the successor to WhiteRa in the Ukrainian Trio, for when PapaRa retires
As for Titan, doing well on the ladder is one thing. Doing well in tournaments is another, and this is the very first time I've seen him do well in tournaments.


he didn't do too bad in dreamhack, he beat huk and some others.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
December 10 2011 09:23 GMT
#7453
On December 10 2011 18:20 skrotcyk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:17 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:12 MrMercuG wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:10 HappyChris wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:05 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Huge upsets by Kas and Titan O_O. Shame I missed those matches .


I woulnt say huge upset by Kas. Kas is a beast I allways knew he was very good he just had problems with his nerves. However that Titan did so well is a huge suprice


If you follow the EU scene it isn't, the guy is ripping everyone apart on the EU ladders.

Kas is the successor to WhiteRa in the Ukrainian Trio, for when PapaRa retires
As for Titan, doing well on the ladder is one thing. Doing well in tournaments is another, and this is the very first time I've seen him do well in tournaments.


he didn't do too bad in dreamhack, he beat huk and some others.


He beat Kas, whom he's about to face for Bronze here at WCG, 2-0 as well.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
December 10 2011 09:23 GMT
#7454
On December 10 2011 18:20 skrotcyk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:17 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:12 MrMercuG wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:10 HappyChris wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:05 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Huge upsets by Kas and Titan O_O. Shame I missed those matches .


I woulnt say huge upset by Kas. Kas is a beast I allways knew he was very good he just had problems with his nerves. However that Titan did so well is a huge suprice


If you follow the EU scene it isn't, the guy is ripping everyone apart on the EU ladders.

Kas is the successor to WhiteRa in the Ukrainian Trio, for when PapaRa retires
As for Titan, doing well on the ladder is one thing. Doing well in tournaments is another, and this is the very first time I've seen him do well in tournaments.


he didn't do too bad in dreamhack, he beat huk and some others.

Good to hear. Maybe he will become the Androide of SC2.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 09:27:05
December 10 2011 09:26 GMT
#7455
Xigua is good and all but I doubt his ZvT is good enough to challenge MVP in the finals.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
December 10 2011 09:32 GMT
#7456
On December 10 2011 18:26 Maenander wrote:
Xigua is good and all but I doubt his ZvT is good enough to challenge MVP in the finals.

Well he hasn't dropped a single game in this entire tournament so far, I'd say the finals will be rather interesting.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
December 10 2011 09:33 GMT
#7457
MVP did nearly lose to Haypro, so he's not unbeatable by foreigners.
HOLY CHECK!
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
December 10 2011 09:33 GMT
#7458
On December 10 2011 18:05 Suohhen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 17:52 FakeDeath wrote:
forGG vs Nestea now on forgg stream incase anyone want to see it just started.=D


So much cheese, unfortunately for Fin he didn't know when to pull back those thors and his SCVs were off hugging drones when Nestea rolled through the thors with reinforcements. The best part is I can see Nestea's face in my mind as all this is going on.

uh oh.. forgg losing a game? unpossible
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 10 2011 09:33 GMT
#7459
I think MVP should win but i actually hope the finals aren't one sided even if the games aren't amazing high level stuff.
Suohhen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
December 10 2011 09:35 GMT
#7460
On December 10 2011 18:26 Maenander wrote:
Xigua is good and all but I doubt his ZvT is good enough to challenge MVP in the finals.


He's never been in a position like this so who knows but he is undefeated so far in this tourney and showing some strong nerves. I think the bigger question is whether MVP will handle the pressure of being the one to have to defend the title for his country, not that there are many cases of him choking but his fellow Koreans already showed what that pressure can do because the prize pool definitely isn't a big enough matter to get nervous about. In the end it's a Bo3 finals so anything can happen and whatever happens there won't be much to say unlike the GSL finals which are Bo7.
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